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Somebody, wrap this long ass thread in a bow, for me... (I've been off grid)...

So, a "N word" jacked up a "Cracker" for saying the "N word"???

..... at football practice? If this is "news", y'all have worse problems than lack of coaching/talent....

Regardless, Merry Christmas to all you cats!!!!!!

If Shrader did in fact say that word, then he just lost the team's trust and support and should probably transfer.

According to Paul, Gay confronted him minutes after the original exchange and that's when he punched him. If I were Joe and Shrader never used that word, I would ask Gay why he wants to remain on the team at MSU, and decide his fate based on his answer.

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Originally Posted by TUSK

Somebody, wrap this long ass thread in a bow, for me... (I've been off grid)...

So, a "N word" jacked up a "Cracker" for saying the "N word"???

..... at football practice? If this is "news", y'all have worse problems than lack of coaching/talent....

Regardless, Merry Christmas to all you cats!!!!!!

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Joe burrow or Tua get their eye socket busted by a teammate in a post practice brawl and are out for the bowl game - yeah, no big deal

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

If Shrader did in fact say that word, then he just lost the team's trust and support and should probably transfer.

According to Paul, Gay confronted him minutes after the original exchange and that's when he punched him. If I were Joe and Shrader never used that word, I would ask Gay why he wants to remain on the team at MSU, and decide his fate based on his answer.

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You guys forget that Gay is mooreheads guy - go back and watch the famous PC

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Tua get their eye socket busted by a teammate in a post practice brawl and are out for the bowl game - yeah, no big deal

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Would not happen.

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Originally Posted by TUSK

Would not happen.

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Well, that's what I would have said about our situation a week ago...

And it wouldn't happen because you guys have discipline.... the whole point of this 9 page thread.

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Originally Posted by TUSK

Would not happen.

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He's right, Saban would end that crap faster than you can say "Roll Tide"

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Who is reporting the N word? That seems not likely to me. And unless that is well sourced why the hell are we running with that instead of smn like pus-y ass bit-h? Or dumb mother effer.

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None of this is well sourced. I?d be willing to bet nothing happened. Same story different day on this board. I small rumor grows and grows. We should have learned our lesson after the egg bowl.

Florida has better discipline than we do.... I miss Dan Mullen, he took care of all the trouble makers in his program

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

Based on all your posts on this thread it?s obvious that you are going to side with gay no matter what and have already made up your mind.

Here are a few FACTS about this whole situation: both players acted like dumbasses in this instance. Gay has acted a dumbass in public (game days) several times this year. IF and that?s a big IF shrader used a racist term to refer to gay it still doesn?t excuse his behavior...which apparently some think it should. I personally have a hard time believing he did say that particular word...I?d be much more willing to believe he used another term and in gay?s mind he took it as a racial slur...as we know a ton of this goes on nowadays. However o have no insider knowledge and am just gleaning from reasonable bits of info.

The bigger issue here, as others have stated is that this is just another embarrassing and unacceptable piece to the jomo puzzle that should have been completed last month.

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I'm not siding with anyone. I'm saying to you that even with disputes there are still levels of respect that most people honor. If you purposely cross that line you open yourself up to a world of unnecessary possibilities. Both are at fault because both have a lot to lose in the situation. There are no winners. However, this sort of thing happens more than people realize when you have team division, poor player management, and a terrible culture.

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Not sure you quite get it and you seem to presume the worst on Shrader. No one's words, no matter how bad deserve to have their brain crushed. But we don't even know what actually went down, do we? I'm hoping Shrader's not that dumb but even if he is, no one deserves that type of life threatening response.

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And no one deserves to be degraded. I get it clearly.

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Originally Posted by ejdallas322

Florida has better discipline than we do.... I miss Dan Mullen, he took care of all the trouble makers in his program

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He recruited some of the current ones though.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

He recruited some of the current ones though.

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He also recruited guys like Jeffrey Simmons and created a culture that turned them into good men

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

He also recruited guys like Jeffrey Simmons and created a culture that turned them into good men

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Yep

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

He also recruited guys like Jeffrey Simmons and created a culture that turned them into good men

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And that has what to do with now? Simmons only had one incident before he got here and for some reason the media stayed on it the entire time he was with us. Which was BS.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

And no one deserves to be degraded. I get it clearly.

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Whole different deal though. Is getting called the "N" word in the heat of the moment (IF it even happened) by someone going to affect Gay's future? NO. Is getting punched in the face so hard that his vision may be impaired going to affect Shrader's future? Very well could. Its one thing to get your feelings hurt, quite another to be impaired physically where it jeopardizes your ability to play the sport you were given a scholarship for and hope to make a living at doing someday.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Whole different deal though. Is getting called the "N" word in the heat of the moment (IF it even happened) by someone going to affect Gay's future? NO. Is getting punched in the face so hard that his vision may be impaired going to affect Shrader's future? Very well could. Its one thing to get your feelings hurt, quite another to be impaired physically where it jeopardizes your ability to play the sport you were given a scholarship for and hope to make a living at doing someday.

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Talk about a stretch. It's not bad enough for surgery and will be healed naturally by January. That's what's being reported by David Murry.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Talk about a stretch. It's not bad enough for surgery and will be healed naturally by January. That's what's being reported by David Murry.

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The king of cold takes makes his triumphant return. “Oh well not THAT bad” - GTFO.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Whole different deal though. Is getting called the "N" word in the heat of the moment (IF it even happened) by someone going to affect Gay's future? NO. Is getting punched in the face so hard that his vision may be impaired going to affect Shrader's future? Very well could. Its one thing to get your feelings hurt, quite another to be impaired physically where it jeopardizes your ability to play the sport you were given a scholarship for and hope to make a living at doing someday.

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Thank you. And sorry- getting called a name is not a reason to hit someone. People can disagree but I don't give a shit. The law and courts would agree with me.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Thank you. And sorry- getting called a name is not a reason to hit someone. People can disagree but I don't give a shit. The law and courts would agree with me.

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Thanks for being another voice of reason. Verbal abuse is bad no doubt. But it in no way equates to physical abuse.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Talk about a stretch. It's not bad enough for surgery and will be healed naturally by January. That's what's being reported by David Murry.

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I'm not stretching anything. I personally have not read anything from David Murray and that's why I said it COULD. But if his vision is expected to come back full strength then that is great news. When you smash someone's eye socket (and that was the rumor being propagated here) its very serious business.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Thank goodness.

We need more of this. Builds continuity, respect, and a savage mentality.

Most all good teams have fights. It’s a sign that the players passionately care

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Why are you starting threads about being embarrassed now?

I'm convinced that if there was video of the fight, that CJM would be fired.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I'm convinced that if there was video of the fight, that CJM would be fired.

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How's that?

I'm wondering how that would be also.

someone posted a day or so ago about what if this incident happened on an NFL team. I think that's worthy of discussion. A blow to an eye with enough force to do that type of damage is not a typical football "squabble" . it just isn't.

Get ready to be embarrassed come game day. IT is coming.

good topics for the game commentators as Joe stands there looking at a chart of explosive plays.........

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

someone posted a day or so ago about what if this incident happened on an NFL team. I think that's worthy of discussion. A blow to an eye with enough force to do that type of damage is not a typical football "squabble" . it just isn't.

Get ready to be embarrassed come game day. IT is coming.

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The laughable thing to me is the players acting like beating the QB to the point where he can't play happens all the time. But we don't understand that because we aren't athletes.

Definitely a concerted WTF take from the football team.