Whelp, no shot at the Outback. Pack your bags for Memphis possibly Nashville.

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The SEC front office is who you should be upset with. With the new rules, the SEC is supposed to make sure teams do not get screwed. A&M and MSU deserve Florida bowls and South Carolina deserves to go to some type of cold weather bowl. South Carolina getting to go to a Florida bowl at 7-5 instead of a shitty bowl is what is wrong with this entire scenario. The SEC should send A&M to the Gator Bowl and State to the Outback. They are the same level bowl, but one team has been to the Gator 3 times in a decade and one team has not. Put South Carolina in a bowl game that a 7-5 team deserves. The bowl games are always going to look out for their best interests and you can not blame them. It is the SECs job to look out for their member institutions, and they are allowing a 7-5 USC team to go to Florida and sending an 8-4 MSU team to 20 degree weather.

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This!

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The SEC front office is who you should be upset with. With the new rules, the SEC is supposed to make sure teams do not get screwed. A&M and MSU deserve Florida bowls and South Carolina deserves to go to some type of cold weather bowl. South Carolina getting to go to a Florida bowl at 7-5 instead of a shitty bowl is what is wrong with this entire scenario. The SEC should send A&M to the Gator Bowl and State to the Outback. They are the same level bowl, but one team has been to the Gator 3 times in a decade and one team has not. Put South Carolina in a bowl game that a 7-5 team deserves. The bowl games are always going to look out for their best interests and you can not blame them. It is the SECs job to look out for their member institutions, and they are allowing a 7-5 USC team to go to Florida and sending an 8-4 MSU team to 20 degree weather.

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I actually think the SEC wants to do this. I really do. If there is a snag it is the Outback Bowl wanting A&M which is where the SEC should tell them to jump in the lake and replace them next year with another bowl like the Vegas. I'm sure the Alamo would also jump at the chance for a SEC team. That way we could play the PAC 10 in a bowl. Let the Outback have an ACC vs Big 10 game.

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I actually think the SEC wants to do this. I really do. If there is a snag it is the Outback Bowl wanting A&M which is where the SEC should tell them to jump in the lake and replace them next year with another bowl like the Vegas. I'm sure the Alamo would also jump at the chance for a SEC team. That way we could play the PAC 10 in a bowl. Let the Outback have an ACC vs Big 10 game.

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If the SEC wanted to do that they would do it. Those 6 bowls do not get to chose their team. The SEC does. Those mid level bowls need the sec much more than the SEC needs them. The entire point of the SEC getting to chose who goes where was to prevent this happening. They are failing at their job, per the usual.

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- they lost to us and Auburn. So your "they beat two teams we lost to" doesn't fly.

- They played South Carolina and we played Florida. There is your conference record difference.

There isn't a penny's worth of difference between the resumes other than we beat them and we are ranked higher by the most important poll.

Right on par with our shitty fan base to vouch for other schools over your own. It's a Mississippi tradition that's held this state back for 150 years.

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If the Gator, Outback, Belk etc. are all the same tier now why does it matter? We may end up getting the Outback regardless and you will have gotten all worked up over absolutely nothing.

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I think it's a draw at best. They went 5-3 in the league. We played them at home I think sec record counts

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If that's the case, Aggie should go to citrus ahead of Ky because Aggie is ahead of Ky in league standings as a result of head to head.

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If the SEC wanted to do that they would do it. Those 6 bowls do not get to chose their team. The SEC does. Those mid level bowls need the sec much more than the SEC needs them. The entire point of the SEC getting to chose who goes where was to prevent this happening. They are failing at their job, per the usual.

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While the SEC does place them the bowls have a big say in the matter.They tell the SEC who they want and fight to get them. Like you said the SEC could stop this if they wanted.

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While the SEC does place them the bowls have a big say in the matter.They tell the SEC who they want and fight to get them. Like you said the SEC could stop this if they wanted.

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The SEC makes the final call on all except the Citrus, and those bowls need the SEC way more than the SEC needs them.

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If the SEC wanted to do that they would do it. Those 6 bowls do not get to chose their team. The SEC does. Those mid level bowls need the sec much more than the SEC needs them. The entire point of the SEC getting to chose who goes where was to prevent this happening. They are failing at their job, per the usual.

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Pretty sure the entire point of the SEC getting to choose was to incentivize the lower paying of the Pool of 6 Bowls to up their payouts. So if say the Liberty wants whoever would go to them under the prior bowl order, then yes, the SEC would presumably make sure that happens at least some of the time to make sure the Liberty Bowl feels like they got a good return on their higher payout. But if the Liberty bowl wants say MSU b/c we are ranked and havea history of filling up their stadium, and the Outback wants someone taht should be below us in the pecking order, then the SEC doesn't have any indentive to change that, unless it's to keep the schools happy, which will generally be secondary to what the bowl committees want.

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Pretty sure the entire point of the SEC getting to choose was to incentivize the lower paying of the Pool of 6 Bowls to up their payouts. So if say the Liberty wants whoever would go to them under the prior bowl order, then yes, the SEC would presumably make sure that happens at least some of the time to make sure the Liberty Bowl feels like they got a good return on their higher payout. But if the Liberty bowl wants say MSU b/c we are ranked and havea history of filling up their stadium, and the Outback wants someone taht should be below us in the pecking order, then the SEC doesn't have any indentive to change that, unless it's to keep the schools happy, which will generally be secondary to what the bowl committees want.

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The SEC’s job is to keep it fair for their member institutions. No one with a brain thinks these kids would rather spend a week in Memphis or Nashville over a week in orlando. They are failing at their job. Period.

My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

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The SEC’s job is to keep it fair for their member institutions. No one with a brain thinks these kids would rather spend a week in Memphis or Nashville over a week in orlando. They are failing at their job. Period.

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Well, the SEC is an association of their members, so I'm guessing they think their job is to keep the members happy. That's mainly making it a better deal than not to be a part of the SEC. A big part of that is to maximize revenue for the schools. Another big part is to make them feel like their getting a fair shake. The better a job they do of the former though the more they can slack on the latter.

My advice, listen to Steve, not Paul. Paul has no idea what he's talking about. We are not going to the liberty bowl. It will be Music city, Outback, or Texas.

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My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

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Maybe I'm a sucker, but I've more or less bought into the Pool of 6 bowls being equal. If we're in the pool of 6, I'd like Outback because we haven't been there and b/c people still see it as superior. I'd like Texas because we haven't been there. I don't want Liberty just because I'm not a fan of Memphis.

But there's also the issue of timeslots. One of the Pool of 6 has a truly awful time slot (maybe the Texas?). I'd rather have a night game that non-msu fans might actually be watching to give us exposure (or a day game on weekend or holiday).

But I'd also rather have an opponent that has name recognition as a good program.

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Maybe I'm a sucker, but I've more or less bought into the Pool of 6 bowls being equal. If we're in the pool of 6, I'd like Outback because we haven't been there and b/c people still see it as superior. I'd like Texas because we haven't been there. I don't want Liberty just because I'm not a fan of Memphis.

But there's also the issue of timeslots. One of the Pool of 6 has a truly awful time slot (maybe the Texas?). I'd rather have a night game that non-msu fans might actually be watching to give us exposure (or a day game on weekend or holiday).

But I'd also rather have an opponent that has name recognition as a good program.

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The Outback is at 12 pm on January 1st. Probably not the best time.

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

I actually think the SEC wants to do this. I really do. If there is a snag it is the Outback Bowl wanting A&M which is where the SEC should tell them to jump in the lake and replace them next year with another bowl like the Vegas. I'm sure the Alamo would also jump at the chance for a SEC team. That way we could play the PAC 10 in a bowl. Let the Outback have an ACC vs Big 10 game.

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The SEC should have a tie-in with the Alamo Bowl.

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My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

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Better yet- why does the SEC have a tie in with them if they are only willing to take certain teams?

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The Outback is at 12 pm on January 1st. Probably not the best time.

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It will be the only game on for the most part.

Many of the posts here seem to think it's a done deal that we don't go to the Outback. Isn't it all just specuation at this point?

I think we go to either Outback or Texas.

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If that's the case, Aggie should go to citrus ahead of Ky because Aggie is ahead of Ky in league standings as a result of head to head.

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And kentucky went 9-3. Also they don't break ties. They are tied at 5-3.

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Many of the posts here seem to think it's a done deal that we don't go to the Outback. Isn't it all just specuation at this point?

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It is pure speculation. I happen to think the SEC does the right thing and we go to the Outback. No one knows anything. Go to a Texas A&M board. It sounds just like here. Some of them are getting pissed because they think they are getting sent to the Texas or Liberty. These "insiders" have no clue.

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My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

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For me, it's about the destination and change of venue compared to where we are accustomed to visiting. Multiple trips to the Gator Bowl, Nashville, etc. Whereas UF practically has a 2nd home in Tampa having been to the Outback 5x in the past 20 years. Georgia 3x, etc.

Swap locations around. That's why I'm excited that Houston and the Texas Bowl are now in play. Would love to get Las Vegas in the SEC mix.

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The Outback is at 12 pm on January 1st. Probably not the best time.

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That's a pretty good time slot to me. Everybody is off work for the most part and a day people associate with college football. I looked and that's probably the best time slot for the Pool of 6 as far as being a day that makes travel to the bowl easy and also gives good tv exposure. Gator is probalby the next best. 6:30 on new year's eve.

The Pool of 6 with the worst time slot is Music City. It's at 12:30 on a Friday that's not a holiday. That's awful. Not a terrible bowl to go to site wise, but that's a terrible bowl for tv exposure.

The next worse is probably liberty at 2:45 on New Year's eve. Not sure how many people are going to be off work to watch that, although I guess a lot of people do take new year's eve off. At least makes it an easy trip. Can leave on a weekend and come back on New Year's day. Basically take one day off.

Texas is good for TV except not sure how many people will think to tune in on a thursday night if it's not a good matchup. Probably one of the worst ones as far as traveling.

The time slots (central):

Texas - Thur Dec. 27, 8pm
Music City - Friday, Dec. 28, 12:30 pm
Belk - Saturday, Dec. 29, 11am
Liberty - Monday, Dec. 31, 2:45pm
Gator - Monday, Dec. 31, 6:30
Outback - Tuesday, Jan 1, 11am

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That's a pretty good time slot to me. Everybody is off work for the most part and a day people associate with college football. I looked and that's probably the best time slot for the Pool of 6 as far as being a day that makes travel to the bowl easy and also gives good tv exposure. Gator is probalby the next best. 6:30 on new year's eve.

The Pool of 6 with the worst time slot is Music City. It's at 12:30 on a Friday that's not a holiday. That's awful. Not a terrible bowl to go to site wise, but that's a terrible bowl for tv exposure.

The next worse is probably liberty at 2:45 on New Year's eve. Not sure how many people are going to be off work to watch that, although I guess a lot of people do take new year's eve off. At least makes it an easy trip. Can leave on a weekend and come back on New Year's day. Basically take one day off.

Texas is good for TV except not sure how many people will think to tune in on a thursday night if it's not a good matchup. Probably one of the worst ones as far as traveling.

The time slots (central):

Texas - Thur Dec. 27, 8pm
Music City - Friday, Dec. 28, 12:30 pm
Belk - Saturday, Dec. 29, 11am
Liberty - Monday, Dec. 31, 2:45pm
Gator - Monday, Dec. 31, 6:30
Outback - Tuesday, Jan 1, 11am

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Yes, thinking about it like that, the Outback is a good slot. I was thinking more about people waking up after New Years and trying to go to the bowl. It is a good slot for TV.

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It is pure speculation. I happen to think the SEC does the right thing and we go to the Outback. No one knows anything. Go to a Texas A&M board. It sounds just like here. Some of them are getting pissed because they think they are getting sent to the Texas or Liberty. These "insiders" have no clue.

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Yeah. It sounds to me like it comes down to whether the SEC will help us or not. Paul thinks they won't and Rosebowl thinks they will.

At the end of the day barring a ton of major upsets it's going to be the Outback or Music City.

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Again, reverse the situation with A&M and MSU and tell me who they are taking?

What if A&M was ahead in the playoff and beat MSU?

Of course they'd take A&M and you'd probably blame it on MSU by saying "should've beat A&M" or "should've beat Clemson"

Some of you got rocks for brains.

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Dude, it is pretty clear you have rocks for brains. The bowls are not in the business of being fair. They are in the business of making $$$. Is MSU or TAMU the better economic decision? That is a pretty easy answer.

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Yeah. It sounds to me like it comes down to whether the SEC will help us or not. Paul thinks they won't and Rosebowl thinks they will.

At the end of the day barring a ton of major upsets it's going to be the Outback or Music City.

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I don't get why Texas isn't in the discussion? Is our administration dead set against Texas? Or does Texas not want us? The 27th isn't the greatest time to travel to a bowl, but I would think we wouldn't be opposed to Texas. Pretty easy to fly into Houston and also a manageable drive for most of the fan base.

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Dude, it is pretty clear you have rocks for brains. The bowls are not in the business of being fair. They are in the business of making $$$. Is MSU or TAMU the better economic decision? That is a pretty easy answer.

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Does A&M really travel that well? They didn't to Starkville compared to other fan bases. I think we would bring a good crowd to the Outback or any other bowl.

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I don't get why Texas isn't in the discussion? Is our administration dead set against Texas? Or does Texas not want us? The 27th isn't the greatest time to travel to a bowl, but I would think we wouldn't be opposed to Texas. Pretty easy to fly into Houston and also a manageable drive for most of the fan base.

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I don't think MSU is against it. I think it's more about we feel like we deserve a NYD game and I guess we like Nashville better than Houston. Nashville is an easier drive for most of our fans than Houston I would imagine.

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Does A&M really travel that well? They didn't to Starkville compared to other fan bases. I think we would bring a good crowd to the Outback or any other bowl.

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Just based on their $$ and size, it would be very hard to imagine us making any bowl more money than they would. Except maybe Memphis bc of its proximity to MS/Starkville.

And that isn't considering what I would imagine is a much larger TV audience.

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Does A&M really travel that well? They didn't to Starkville compared to other fan bases. I think we would bring a good crowd to the Outback or any other bowl.

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Could be that they travel well, but I think it is more that their fanbase is spread out a lot more than MSU's due to their military school. Realistically, the majority of MSU's fanbase probably resides in MS. Could be completely wrong though. Just my thoughts and reasoning on why they might be considered better travelers that MSU fans.

TaxSlayer Gator Bowl President and CEO Rick Catlett joined Jacksonville radio station 1010XL on Wednesday and gave out substantial intel on who he's looking at for this season's Dec. 31 prime-time matchup.

"We’re either going to have Texas A&M or South Carolina and both of those are home runs for us," Catlett said. "I’m pretty certain about that. Citrus will take Kentucky, Outback will take Mississippi State. I don’t have a choice because the SEC is going to make that decision. South Carolina and the Gator haven’t played in a long time. It would be a match made in heaven. That would be a really good thing.

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Does A&M really travel that well? They didn't to Starkville compared to other fan bases. I think we would bring a good crowd to the Outback or any other bowl.

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They don’t travel well. They will have about the same attendance we would. They are a cultish fan group. They like football at their university but they don’t get out much. They also have ALOT of students at their games to fill those seats. Students generally don’t travel to bowl games in great numbers.

Our bowl attendance has sucked lately, so we don't wanna bring that up. It isn't just who will go to the game either... it's who will watch. Texas is a huge market

Piss on Outback. They’re steaks are horrible anyway. It’s just one more shitty themed restaurant.

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Piss on Outback. They’re steaks are horrible anyway. It’s just one more shitty themed restaurant.

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Well I want their bowl. Outback, Texas, or liberty... only prefer liberty bc I can actually make that one

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Piss on Outback. They’re steaks are horrible anyway. It’s just one more shitty themed restaurant.

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No one cares who the sponsor is or their quality of food.

It could be named the Walgreens Pharmacy Bowl and would still be desirable because of the tier level, location and payout of the bowl.

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Well I want their bowl. Outback, Texas, or liberty... only prefer liberty bc I can actually make that one

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More or less getting in fine “pissed off” form before we get passed over by them again.

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