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03-13-2017, 02:23 PM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

As far as Ole Miss not offering him- they ARE about to be on probation and I would imagine that their numbers are going to be very tight. I think they also would fear us flipping him and basically doing the same thing that happened when they flipped Sean Rawlings from us. If he was an Ole Miss legacy I'm 100% sure they would have offered him right now- and he would probably be in their class.

Isn't this supposed to be a small class for us as well?

I can't get an answer on this...do you know if our recruiters recruit by their position group or are they assigned a region?
03-13-2017, 02:29 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by TimberBeast

Yep, been saying it for years. Go ahead and get it done.

I'm not there just yet but ... chiming in to defend your statement somewhat here.

If this guy blows up big, goes somewhere else and becomes a stud, we better win the whole SEC in 2018 or I'll be on board with you. I'm really tired of the same ole OL scenario every spring and thus translating into fall that we go through every year. Looking for a center, in spring starters are hurt, just in general looking for bodies to put out there cause we don't have any freakin depth to speak of.

Everyone seems to think all these big 340 - 350 lb guys are the answer. We'll see when a 230 lb Bama OLB is blowing past them to kill one of our stud QBs!!
03-13-2017, 02:34 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'm not there just yet but ... chiming in to defend your statement somewhat here.

If this guy blows up big, goes somewhere else and becomes a stud, we better win the whole SEC in 2018 or I'll be on board with you. I'm really tired of the same ole OL scenario every spring and thus translating into fall that we go through every year. Looking for a center, in spring starters are hurt, just in general looking for bodies to put out there cause we don't have any freakin depth to speak of.

Everyone seems to think all these big 340 - 350 lb guys are the answer. We'll see when a 230 lb Bama OLB is blowing past them to kill one of our stud QBs!!

Cole smith has yet to begin his senior year and you clowns are already planning mullen's (most successful HC here ever) termination bc Mullen hasn't offered in your timely manner. Good grief
03-13-2017, 02:41 PM
Liverpooldawg

Had any Of y'all even heard of this guy before last week?
03-13-2017, 02:43 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Cole smith has yet to begin his senior year and you clowns are already planning mullen's (most successful HC here ever) termination bc Mullen hasn't offered in your timely manner. Good grief

No, but I think most have been planning Hevesy's termination for at least the past 4 years. Just can't get Mullen to execute the order.
03-13-2017, 02:44 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Cole smith has yet to begin his senior year and you clowns are already planning mullen's (most successful HC here ever) termination bc Mullen hasn't offered in your timely manner. Good grief

No ... just saying if this does happen. I'm not buying into 6'8" and 6'9" - 350 lb guys that can't move either. Size ain't everything. Maybe they are that big and can move ... we'll see. I don't know for sure yet. There usually is a law of diminishing return tho.

I'm already some irritated about the spring practice reports relative to OL from this year. And I'm really tired of losing 4 SEC W games every year ... sorry if that offends anyone.

I'm trying my best to be open-minded and wait to see and give Dan a chance. So I'll say 10 wins in '18 will be acceptable to unless Cole Smith becomes a stud lineman somewhere else haha. Then we better win SEC W and SEC Championship.
03-13-2017, 02:51 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

No ... just saying if this does happen. I'm not buying into 6'8" and 6'9" - 350 lb guys that can't move either. Size ain't everything. Maybe they are that big and can move ... we'll see. I don't know for sure yet. There usually is a law of diminishing return tho.

I'm already some irritated about the spring practice reports relative to OL from this year. And I'm really tired of losing 4 SEC W games every year ... sorry if that offends anyone.

I'm trying my best to be open-minded and wait to see and give Dan a chance. So I'll say 10 wins in '18 will be acceptable to unless Cole Smith becomes a stud lineman somewhere else haha. Then we better win SEC W and SEC Championship.

In the original Rankin playing center melt thread, I posted a link telling about how bama had to completely re-shuffle oline bc of an injury on the oline. We've got our 2 top guys at center out right now. Now if bama with the best recruiting in the country has to shuffle the line with 1 oline injury, how much more so with us considering Hev is the worst coach to ever walk the earth and supported hitler in the holocaust?

No, I'm not really saying Hev supported hitter
03-13-2017, 02:54 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'm trying my best to be open-minded and wait to see and give Dan a chance. So I'll say 10 wins in '18 will be acceptable to unless Cole Smith becomes a stud lineman somewhere else haha. Then we better win SEC W and SEC Championship.

Acceptable? Haha unless it's been 50 years since we last lost to Maine and 3-2 vs Auburn the words "acceptable" and "10 wins" should never be uttered in the same sentence when referring to MSU football. Acceptable means the same thing as par. 10 wins in a season will never be our par unless we start playing 16 game seasons. Only Alabama has averaged 10 wins a season the last decade in the SEC.
03-13-2017, 02:55 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by msstate7

In the original Rankin playing center melt thread, I posted a link telling about how bama had to completely re-shuffle oline bc of an injury on the oline. We've got our 2 top guys at center out right now. Now if bama with the best recruiting in the country has to shuffle the line with 1 oline injury, how much more so with us considering Hev is the worst recruiter to ever walk the earth and supported hitler in the holocaust?

No, I'm not really saying Hev supported hitter

FIFY, I think most would say his coaching is at least not terrible.
03-13-2017, 03:00 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

In the original Rankin playing center melt thread, I posted a link telling about how bama had to completely re-shuffle oline bc of an injury on the oline. We've got our 2 top guys at center out right now. Now if bama with the best recruiting in the country has to shuffle the line with 1 oline injury, how much more so with us considering Hev is the worst coach to ever walk the earth and supported hitler in the holocaust?

No, I'm not really saying Hev supported hitter

Well ... I like this kid's video and if he is truly 6'4 275 ... seems exactly like the kind of kid Wisconsin recruits all day every day. And they put guys into the league.

I'm not saying fire Dan just yet. If you can get all over Howland and Cann in there first 2 and 1 years each when they have an excuse for getting there asses handed to them by other SEC teams ... I reserve the right to do the same with Dan/Hev going on their 9th year now ******
03-13-2017, 03:01 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Acceptable? Haha unless it's been 50 years since we last lost to Maine and 3-2 vs Auburn the words "acceptable" and "10 wins" should never be uttered in the same sentence when referring to MSU football. Acceptable means the same thing as par. 10 wins in a season will never be our par unless we start playing 16 game seasons. Only Alabama has averaged 10 wins a season the last decade in the SEC.

In 1 season (2018) is what I'm talking about. 2014 we won 10 didn't we?
03-13-2017, 03:05 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

In 1 season (2018) is what I'm talking about. 2014 we won 10 didn't we?

Yea but that's never just "acceptable". If you start putting measures like that on a program at MSU you will always be miserable.
03-13-2017, 03:13 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We've got our 2 top guys at center out right now.

Only guys we have out are Calhoun and Jenkins. Jenkins isnt a Center. We have 1 Center out. Moon is working with the 2nd group
03-13-2017, 03:19 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Only guys we have out are Calhoun and Jenkins. Jenkins isnt a Center. We have 1 Center out. Moon is working with the 2nd group

Williams
03-13-2017, 03:26 PM
lamont

He is playing RG with the 1st group
03-13-2017, 03:28 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Can you give us a list on OL targets? On D side of ball and at QB or RB I would probably agree with you.

He wasn't talking about OL.
03-13-2017, 03:30 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

He is playing RG with the 1st group

Cool. I heard he was out and center. Glad he's healthy
03-13-2017, 03:33 PM
lamont

So that means Williams isnt a Center and Moon isnt good enough to work with the 1st group.

Either Rankin is our back-up Center- or we are moving Rankin to Center.
03-13-2017, 03:34 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by smootness

He wasn't talking about OL.

I know ... that's my point. We good at early offers to future studs on D. I guess that in 9 years you'd think we did that 1 time with an OL recruit. Maybe we have but if so, I don't remember it.
03-13-2017, 03:45 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Isn't this supposed to be a small class for us as well?

I can't get an answer on this...do you know if our recruiters recruit by their position group or are they assigned a region?

My thoughts exactly. I thought our signing # for 2018 was gonna be 15 or so plus who we process so that we may can push 20 signees. If so, then we've got to be careful who we offer and it seems like the ones who've camp with us move to the top of the list over those who don't.
03-13-2017, 07:34 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Isn't this supposed to be a small class for us as well?

I can't get an answer on this...do you know if our recruiters recruit by their position group or are they assigned a region?

My guess is we will sign between 23-25. I think we will process guys out that are currently off the roster that aren't performing so it won't be small.

Each player has two recruiters- one is the area recruiter and then the other one is the position coach based on whatever position that recruit plays.

So, if I am QB prospect from Madison Central, my two recruiters are going to be Greg Knox (area) and Brett Elliott (position) and I'll probably be hearing from Brad Peterson a lot too on the phone.
03-13-2017, 07:43 PM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

wtf? You don't fire the most successful coach by far in our history because he won't fire a guy you think he should fire. You guys don't get to dictate everything Mullen does. Get over it or become our AD and guess what you still don't get to dictate everything Mullen does. He's not firing Hevesy so stop acting like a bunch of shitty diaper toddlers about it. Posting 7 billion melt posts about it isn't going to change Mullen's mind.

Testify!

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