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03-07-2017, 11:00 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Steakonastick

Johnson is a major reason why we are in the shape we are in. And that comes from Multiple sources who know way more about pitching then I do. The way it was described to me in simple terms. His throwing programs are great for upperclassmen who have been in a college weight program and have fixed most major mechanical flaws. But for freshmen it is hell on their arms unless they have decent body mass and form.

That makes sense.
03-07-2017, 11:03 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And in the same time span that Bianco has been there- including Polk II- we've been to Omaha twice, the Finals once, won the SEC Tournament three times to their once, won the SEC once outright, and have been to more SR. I'm not sure why fans like you are clamoring for a steak of non-losing seasons in exchange for lesser overall accomplishments in the same time period. And that's with us hiring Polk II which hurt our program and the jury still out on Cann.

You've gotta get there to have a chance. No way coastal Carolina was the best team last year, but they got hot in the tourney. I wanna be there to have a shot at lightning in a bottle
03-07-2017, 11:03 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Look, you want a sunshine circle jerk you entered the wrong thread. We could all sit around and play foul mouthed Gene Swindoll and act like everything's fine or not say shit, but last I checked this is a message board that is the exact forum for overreaction. So suck that dick and quit acting like everything you say has more worth than everyone else's opinion. Damn. I usually laugh at your posts and agree, but take that "suck their dicks" shit somewhere else.

lol sunshine pumper? You must have me confused with someone else. How about eat a dick is that better? All some of you do is raise ****ing hell that shit sucks but never give any reason or discusssion about why that may be or what may help change it. Except I expect more out of whoever. And if your opinion was more than that and had some ****ing substance I would give it it's due respect but yours don't so yes..my opinion does carry more weight than yours where this is concerned.

Love you. Mean it.
03-07-2017, 11:04 PM
Tripp McNeely

#13 recruiting class (Perfect Game) for 2017...repeating that to myself 200 is the only thing that kept me from mainlining a bottle of Kentucky Tavern tonight
03-07-2017, 11:04 PM
Todd4State

One more thing about our "consistency". Bitching about having a losing season in between CWS appearances and a SEC title is like bitching about winning the Sugar Bowl, going 3-9, and then winning the SEC after that- but then at the same time yearning for going 7-5 every year because that's what Ole Miss has done and that's more consistent.

Hell, Auburn seems OK with it in football.
03-07-2017, 11:05 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

lol sunshine pumper? You must have me confused with someone else. How about eat a dick is that better? All some of you do is raise ****ing hell that shit sucks but never give any reason or discusssion about why that may be or what may help change it. Except I expect more out of whoever. And if your opinion was more than that and had some ****ing substance I would give it it's due respect but yours don't so yes..my opinion does carry more weight than yours where this is concerned.

Love you. Mean it.

Suck it up buttercup
03-07-2017, 11:05 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And in the same time span that Bianco has been there- including Polk II- we've been to Omaha twice, the Finals once, won the SEC Tournament three times to their once, won the SEC once outright, and have been to more SR. I'm not sure why fans like you are clamoring for a streak of non-losing seasons in exchange for lesser overall accomplishments in the same time period. And that's with us hiring Polk II which hurt our program and the jury still out on Cann.

Go OM
03-07-2017, 11:06 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

One more thing about our "consistency". Bitching about having a losing season in between CWS appearances and a SEC title is like bitching about winning the Sugar Bowl, going 3-9, and then winning the SEC after that- but then at the same time yearning for going 7-5 every year because that's what Ole Miss has done and that's more consistent.

Hell, Auburn seems OK with it in football.

Ha... I called us the auburn of college baseball the other day
03-07-2017, 11:06 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Suck it up buttercup

I'm good. I'm not melting on every ball thrown or every strikeout.
03-07-2017, 11:07 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You've gotta get there to have a chance. No way coastal Carolina was the best team last year, but they got hot in the tourney. I wanna be there to have a shot at lightning in a bottle

Ole Miss has only been to Omaha ONCE compared to our TWICE since Bianco has been there. How is choking in the postseason every year giving them a better chance to win it all? Technically we've had a better chance at winning it all then them doing it the way we have.
03-07-2017, 11:07 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

I'm good. I'm not melting on every ball thrown or every strikeout.

Or loss and they're piling up
03-07-2017, 11:07 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Ole Miss has only been to Omaha ONCE compared to our TWICE since Bianco has been there. How is choking in the postseason every year giving them a better chance to win it all? Technically we've had a better chance at winning it all then them doing it the way we have.

Wasting your time
03-07-2017, 11:08 PM
hailstate17

I'm not saying Johnson was perfect. But Henderson ain't the guy and the players realized it quick
03-07-2017, 11:08 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Or loss and they're piling up

And they are going to continue. We've got a lot of problems.
03-07-2017, 11:09 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

And they are going to continue. We've got a lot of problems.

Hey, we found common ground haha
03-07-2017, 11:09 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by hailstate17

I'm not saying Johnson was perfect. But Henderson ain't the guy and the players realized it quick

Not hard to see
03-07-2017, 11:10 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Hey, we found common ground haha

Shit I'm jumping
03-07-2017, 11:10 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Go OM

I honestly don't get the envy either. Three weeks ago- people were talking about how unbelievable they were. Then they lose to Memphis and get dominated in Houston- including once by a quality team we beat- and then silence. And now they suspend two of their infielders for who knows how long and that's going to likely affect them as well.
03-07-2017, 11:11 PM
Skydawg1

If I were a casual observer of college baseball, I'd be more critical of Ole Miss's post season flame-outs than anything else. Polk made regionals all the time, even Polk 2. He just did nothing in the post season, except 2007. And I swear to you....the only reason Ole Miss made Omaha in 2014 is because we made it in 2013....and almost won it all.* And that put the fear of God in them. Call me crazy.

*See Dan Mullen 'never losing to this team again'
03-07-2017, 11:11 PM
Steakonastick

I'm keeping my fingers crossed cannizaro can convince Alan Dunn to join.
03-07-2017, 11:12 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Ole Miss has only been to Omaha ONCE compared to our TWICE since Bianco has been there. How is choking in the postseason every year giving them a better chance to win it all? Technically we've had a better chance at winning it all then them doing it the way we have.

I enjoy more than the postseason in baseball. Last year was a hell of a lot of fun for me even though it ended short of the CWS. I don't like being sick of baseball before April
03-07-2017, 11:15 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I enjoy more than the postseason in baseball. Last year was a hell of a lot of fun for me even though it ended short of the CWS. I don't like being sick of baseball before April

Then get behind these inexperienced guys and give them a chance. And our HC that was thrown into a shit sandwich buffet. or just quit watching.
03-07-2017, 11:16 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by Steakonastick

I'm keeping my fingers crossed cannizaro can convince Alan Dunn to join.

Yeah me too.
03-07-2017, 11:19 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Then get behind these inexperienced guys and give them a chance. And our HC that was thrown into a shit sandwich buffet. or just quit watching.

Dude, miss state hasn't played a baseball, football, or basketball game that I'm not hanging on every moment for as long as I can remember. Hell, open any game thread on this site and I'm there... usually melting haha

I will always support state no matter how much they tick me off sometimes
03-07-2017, 11:20 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I enjoy more than the postseason in baseball. Last year was a hell of a lot of fun for me even though it ended short of the CWS. I don't like being sick of baseball before April

Well, that's all well and good but last time I checked the ultimate goal is to win championships. And if you told me that we would win a National Title but then have a losing season the next year- you better believe I would make that deal in a heartbeat over just going to the postseason two year in a row.

And as a Braves fan I know you don't win a lot of championships a lot- but I can tell you that they are a lot more fun than winning the league and choking.
03-07-2017, 11:21 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Dude, miss state hasn't played a baseball, football, or basketball game that I'm not hanging on every moment for as long as I can remember. Hell, open any game thread on this site and I'm there... usually melting haha

I will always support state no matter how much they tick me off sometimes

Unacceptable*
03-07-2017, 11:21 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, that's all well and good but last time I checked the ultimate goal is to win championships. And if you told me that we would win a National Title but then have a losing season the next year- you better believe I would make that deal in a heartbeat over just going to the postseason two year in a row.

And as a Braves fan I know you don't win a lot of championships a lot- but I can tell you that they are a lot more fun than winning the league and choking.

Why you wanna pull my braves in this? Lol
03-07-2017, 11:22 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Dude, miss state hasn't played a baseball, football, or basketball game that I'm not hanging on every moment for as long as I can remember. Hell, open any game thread on this site and I'm there... usually melting haha

I will always support state no matter how much they tick me off sometimes

I'll give you that you are always there...melting but you are there. Kudos.
03-07-2017, 11:23 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, that's all well and good but last time I checked the ultimate goal is to win championships. And if you told me that we would win a National Title but then have a losing season the next year- you better believe I would make that deal in a heartbeat over just going to the postseason two year in a row.

And as a Braves fan I know you don't win a lot of championships a lot- but I can tell you that they are a lot more fun than winning the league and choking.

Everybody would take that. Who's arguing that they would rather have two postseason flameouts over a Title and then missing the postseason?
03-07-2017, 11:23 PM
Skydawg1

TCU's pitching coach would be a good option.
03-08-2017, 12:17 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Everybody would take that. Who's arguing that they would rather have two postseason flameouts over a Title and then missing the postseason?

It's just an example to illustrate how silly it sounds to say that we would rather be consistent like Ole Miss- while at the same time despite a few losing seasons we've achieved more on the field in terms of major accomplishments in the same time span.
03-08-2017, 04:54 AM
Dawgsfanalongtime77

It's gonna be a yr of ups and downs. That should have been noticed from the start. People forget that 11 players were lost to the draft. It's really hard to just pick up from where you left off when something like that happens. It's a young team that's making mental mistakes. It's called growing pains. This yr will be a grind but the future does look bright the way I see it. Perfect yr for coach cazinaro to take over. He knows what the team can and can't do.
03-08-2017, 04:56 AM
Dawgsfanalongtime77

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

I'll give you that you are always there...melting but you are there. Kudos.

Been a state fan for over 30yrs. It's always been the exact same. Nothing comes easy at Mississippi state
03-08-2017, 10:21 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Dawgsfanalongtime77

It's gonna be a yr of ups and downs. That should have been noticed from the start. People forget that 11 players were lost to the draft. It's really hard to just pick up from where you left off when something like that happens. It's a young team that's making mental mistakes. It's called growing pains. This yr will be a grind but the future does look bright the way I see it. Perfect yr for coach cazinaro to take over. He knows what the team can and can't do.

Actually, I don't think he has a clue what our guys can and can't do. Especially the pitchers.
03-08-2017, 10:46 AM
maroonmania

I'm just about to the point where I've accepted the fact that MSU can't have a consistent baseball program anymore. Took Cohen a number of years to break out of losing seasons when he first got to MSU, then we go the NC series in 2013 on a hot run at the end but go back to a losing season in 2015 to an SEC championship in 2016 to what I believe is going to be another losing season in 2017 (or at least a miss at getting into post-season). Its always something with us, injuries, lost too many to the pros, blah, blah. Seriously, do we really look to be much better in 2018? Someone convince me. Rooker, Brown, Lovelady are gone, Gridley likely gone, and heck even Mangum is draft eligible.
03-08-2017, 11:22 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Actually, I don't think he has a clue what our guys can and can't do. Especially the pitchers.

Doesn't have a clue? Really? Come on man
03-08-2017, 11:24 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I'm just about to the point where I've accepted the fact that MSU can't have a consistent baseball program anymore. Took Cohen a number of years to break out of losing seasons when he first got to MSU, then we go the NC series in 2013 on a hot run at the end but go back to a losing season in 2015 to an SEC championship in 2016 to what I believe is going to be another losing season in 2017 (or at least a miss at getting into post-season). Its always something with us, injuries, lost too many to the pros, blah, blah. Seriously, do we really look to be much better in 2018? Someone convince me. Rooker, Brown, Lovelady are gone, Gridley likely gone, and heck even Mangum is draft eligible.

I think we do. Gridley may be back, as I doubt he's going to have to pass up much of a signing bonus to do so.

Mangum will likely be back, as he will still have leverage after his junior year. I don't think he'll be a top 5 round pick, so it would be a good idea for him to come back.

Our pitching should be much, much better in 2018. We don't have any healthy senior pitchers or draft-risk juniors. So everybody will be back. Pilkington should be a legit Friday night guy next year, Self should be a good weekend starter, then we've got a bunch of options for that 3rd spot...could be Ashcraft, if he continues to progress; Ford, Padgett and Small may be healthy enough to be back to just about where they were; and we'll have a host of experienced bullpen arms. Our pitching could be really freaking good.

The lineup will be interesting. We do lose Rooker, but Poole and Blaylock both look like guys who could be pretty big bats by this time next year with the additional experience. The coaches love Skelton. Bragg will probably be back and may have figured out his K issues some. Stovall and Alexander could both be studs by next year. Vansau and MacNamee will be better. Reed Smith is a serious talent. We'll only lose Rooker, Brown, maybe Gridley, and possibly Mangum.

We also have some pretty highly-rated signees in that 2018 class, and most are hitters, so we'll see how many we can get into school.

Assuming Mangum is back, I think our lineup could be considerably better. So yes, I think 2018 looks to be much better.
03-08-2017, 12:03 PM
Human Meat

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Originally Posted by smootness

Our pitching should be much, much better in 2018. We don't have any healthy senior pitchers or draft-risk juniors. So everybody will be back. Pilkington should be a legit Friday night guy next year, Self should be a good weekend starter, then we've got a bunch of options for that 3rd spot...could be Ashcraft, if he continues to progress; Ford, Padgett and Small may be healthy enough to be back to just about where they were; and we'll have a host of experienced bullpen arms. Our pitching could be really freaking good.

I would expect at least one/two of our current pitchers will be having Tommy John surgery based on track record.
03-08-2017, 12:05 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Human Meat

I would expect at least one/two of our current pitchers will be having Tommy John surgery based on track record.

Based on who or what's track record??
03-08-2017, 12:05 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by Human Meat

I would expect at least one/two of our current pitchers will be having Tommy John surgery based on track record.

Maybe, but I'm not going to project it.

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