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12-01-2015, 05:07 PM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by OdaMaeBrown

Yes, currently almost all the SEC schools are in better shape than Miami. That doesn't make them better jobs. Miami would be top 5 in the SEC. Bama, GA, FL, LSU would be the only ones ahead with Aub and Miami about the same level.

If my Aunt had balls she would be my uncle. Miami is not in the SEC. Miami is not going to be in the SEC. They are third fiddle in their own state, and they're always going to be, because they are a commuter school.
12-01-2015, 05:11 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Does it matter? Maybe he's a guy that likes to build instead of maintain. Maybe Megan wants to get back with the golf channel. Or maybe he thinks 7 years is as long as you need to stay at one place and he's looking for change of scenery.

The only thing that matters from a Mstate point of view, is that Dan clearly wants out. So, personally, I hope someone hires him and we can all move forward. There is a huge fallacy that the MSU job is a bad job. It's not. It's a tough job for sure, but with our conference, facilities, fan support, salary and recruiting bases it's one of the best 25 jobs in the country. I want a coach who wants to be here.

Well done. I want a coach that wants to be at MSU too.
12-01-2015, 05:15 PM
Blackout

Interesting way of putting it that I haven't considered seen on the other board.

Mullen may be holding back in recruiting because he wants to keep his name clean when a big job opens up. He's purposefully limiting our football talent in order to make him nice and shiny for a big boy job. Hell he may be the driver of the turn yourself in crowd, throwing Redmond and Mirando to the wolves.
12-01-2015, 05:19 PM
PendingTransaction

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Originally Posted by Blackout

Interesting way of putting it that I haven't considered seen on the other board.

Mullen may be holding back in recruiting because he wants to keep his name clean when a big job opens up. He's purposefully limiting our football talent in order to make him nice and shiny for a big boy job. Hell he may be the driver of the turn yourself in crowd, throwing Redmond and Mirando to the wolves.

Now you're getting it!
12-01-2015, 05:25 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Blackout

Interesting way of putting it that I haven't considered seen on the other board.

Mullen may be holding back in recruiting because he wants to keep his name clean when a big job opens up. He's purposefully limiting our football talent in order to make him nice and shiny for a big boy job. Hell he may be the driver of the turn yourself in crowd, throwing Redmond and Mirando to the wolves.

No. The NCAA contacted us about the violations before we knew about it. Mirando lied about what he knew and got a show cause. We had no choice but to cut ties with him. Compliance handles the penalties, including Redmond, not the atheletic department. We have hashed many compliance issues over the years, including outside the football program and before Mullen was hired. You are grasping for straws.
12-01-2015, 05:35 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

No. The NCAA contacted us about the violations before we knew about it. Mirando lied about what he knew and got a show cause. We had no choice but to cut ties with him. Compliance handles the penalties, including Redmond, not the atheletic department. We have hashed many compliance issues over the years, including outside the football program and before Mullen was hired. You are grasping for straws.

I would really like to know how an agency as incompetent as the NCAA came upon this investigative knowledge that Redmond got some articles of clothing and a used car discount. That's some high priority news there.
12-01-2015, 05:36 PM
Westdawg

........Bracky called them up and told them what he had heard.
12-01-2015, 05:37 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

No. The NCAA contacted us about the violations before we knew about it. Mirando lied about what he knew and got a show cause. We had no choice but to cut ties with him. Compliance handles the penalties, including Redmond, not the atheletic department. We have hashed many compliance issues over the years, including outside the football program and before Mullen was hired. You are grasping for straws.

I thought it was posted here by several people in "the know," including Coach34, that Mirando was fired over some kind of sex scandal, not NCAA violations?
12-01-2015, 05:38 PM
1MidsouthDawg

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

From what I've heard that one is bullshit.

From what I am hearing like all the other jobs he has interviewed for Penn State, Va Tech, _____, it is a "leaked" list of coaches they want.

Also, their facilities are garbage as well as their fans.

Go DAWGs and HAILSTATE!!!
12-01-2015, 05:42 PM
OdaMaeBrown

I hope i am just missing the sarcasm. Otherwise this is just stupid.

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Originally Posted by Blackout

Interesting way of putting it that I haven't considered seen on the other board.

Mullen may be holding back in recruiting because he wants to keep his name clean when a big job opens up. He's purposefully limiting our football talent in order to make him nice and shiny for a big boy job. Hell he may be the driver of the turn yourself in crowd, throwing Redmond and Mirando to the wolves.

So Mullen is making himself look better for bigger jobs by not recruiting as well and as a result not winning as much? Damn that is some logic right there.
12-01-2015, 05:46 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I would really like to know how an agency as incompetent as the NCAA came upon this investigative knowledge that Redmond got some articles of clothing and a used car discount. That's some high priority news there.

They were contacted by an outside source about our possible violations. Investigation started from there.

ETA. The NCAA was notified of possible violations BEFORE we even signed Redmond.
12-01-2015, 05:49 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

They were contacted by an outside source about our possible violations. Investigation started from there.

That being DeVinner or someone associated with Ole Miss.
12-01-2015, 06:04 PM
ScoobaDawg

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Originally Posted by OdaMaeBrown

So Mullen is making himself look better for bigger jobs by not recruiting as well and as a result not winning as much? Damn that is some logic right there.

It's will james...what do you expect...
12-01-2015, 06:08 PM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

It's will james...what do you expect...

I didn't realize that's who that was. I wonder if he still thinks it's the correct approach to look breaking ball and adjust to the fastball.
12-01-2015, 06:10 PM
Todd4State

I agree with those that say that Miami is not as good a job at MSU. I've heard someone compare Miami to Tulane with a really good football program. Maybe that's off some- I don't really know.

BUT what I do know about Miami is they have a trump card in the form of their NFL alumni. They may be only able to pay a coach 2 million- but I guarantee you that Irvin, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and ETC. are probably going to have no problem helping the cause of the U- and I imagine between all of them they could easily scrounge up another 2 million a year for whomever their coach is. They're an extremely loyal group towards their alma mater.
12-01-2015, 06:13 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I agree with those that say that Miami is not as good a job at MSU. I've heard someone compare Miami to Tulane with a really good football program. Maybe that's off some- I don't really know.

BUT what I do know about Miami is they have a trump card in the form of their NFL alumni. They may be only able to pay a coach 2 million- but I guarantee you that Irvin, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and ETC. are probably going to have no problem helping the cause of the U- and I imagine between all of them they could easily scrounge up another 2 million a year for whomever their coach is. They're an extremely loyal group towards their alma mater.

Yeah but they are letting it be known that they can and would pay $4MIL a year for their guy. That's a big step up for them.
12-01-2015, 06:15 PM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I agree with those that say that Miami is not as good a job at MSU. I've heard someone compare Miami to Tulane with a really good football program. Maybe that's off some- I don't really know.

BUT what I do know about Miami is they have a trump card in the form of their NFL alumni. They may be only able to pay a coach 2 million- but I guarantee you that Irvin, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and ETC. are probably going to have no problem helping the cause of the U- and I imagine between all of them they could easily scrounge up another 2 million a year for whomever their coach is. They're an extremely loyal group towards their alma mater.

They're loyal in the sense that they like glorifying "Da U", but those guys haven't done anything for that program to this point. You'd think they would be awash in state-of-the-art facilities thanks to all of their alumni, but it hasn't happened. No reason to think it's going to change all of a sudden.
12-01-2015, 06:16 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I agree with those that say that Miami is not as good a job at MSU. I've heard someone compare Miami to Tulane with a really good football program. Maybe that's off some- I don't really know.

BUT what I do know about Miami is they have a trump card in the form of their NFL alumni. They may be only able to pay a coach 2 million- but I guarantee you that Irvin, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and ETC. are probably going to have no problem helping the cause of the U- and I imagine between all of them they could easily scrounge up another 2 million a year for whomever their coach is. They're an extremely loyal group towards their alma mater.

That's a great analogy. Tulane used to beat LSU just like Miami used to beat Florida State and Florida.

That's not happening anymore. Let me repeat: Miami WILL NEVER again surpass FSU or Florida. I don't care if Nick Saban goes there. The school is not a good fit for being a major football program in the current college environment.
12-01-2015, 06:20 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

They're loyal in the sense that they like glorifying "Da U", but those guys haven't done anything for that program to this point. You'd think they would be awash in state-of-the-art facilities thanks to all of their alumni, but it hasn't happened. No reason to think it's going to change all of a sudden.

True- but they were all extremely vocal about getting Golden fired. I suspect that they have some clout.

And I don't really know what Miami is planning on doing going forward, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they have plans down the road to build their own stadium like Tulane did and like South Alabama is trying to do.

I'm not exactly sure why they don't have better facilities, but my guess is they feel like they can just keep their boys home no matter what for the most part, so they don't have to doll things up as much. Whether that's reality or not is up for debate. But my guess is they're probably pretty arrogant.
12-01-2015, 06:21 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

That's a great analogy. Tulane used to beat LSU just like Miami used to beat Florida State and Florida.

That's not happening anymore. Let me repeat: Miami WILL NEVER again surpass FSU or Florida. I don't care if Nick Saban goes there. The school is not a good fit for being a major football program in the current college environment.

I think he just meant that both are private schools. The caveat is Tulane WITH a really good football program. Which they never really have had there aside from 1998.
12-01-2015, 06:23 PM
Bubb Rubb

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

That's a great analogy. Tulane used to beat LSU just like Miami used to beat Florida State and Florida.

That's not happening anymore. Let me repeat: Miami WILL NEVER again surpass FSU or Florida. I don't care if Nick Saban goes there. The school is not a good fit for being a major football program in the current college environment.

Not without going completely rogue on the recruiting front like they did before.
12-01-2015, 06:33 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by OdaMaeBrown

So Mullen is making himself look better for bigger jobs by not recruiting as well and as a result not winning as much? Damn that is some logic right there.

Ain't it though. Some people here have gone stark raving nutts.
12-01-2015, 06:36 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I agree with those that say that Miami is not as good a job at MSU. I've heard someone compare Miami to Tulane with a really good football program. Maybe that's off some- I don't really know.

BUT what I do know about Miami is they have a trump card in the form of their NFL alumni. They may be only able to pay a coach 2 million- but I guarantee you that Irvin, Sapp, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and ETC. are probably going to have no problem helping the cause of the U- and I imagine between all of them they could easily scrounge up another 2 million a year for whomever their coach is. They're an extremely loyal group towards their alma mater.

My Miami family members say that doesn't happen much down there. They talk about the U, but they don't donate as much as you might think.
12-01-2015, 06:37 PM
Blackout

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

My Miami family members say that doesn't happen much down there. They talk about the U, but they don't donate as much as you might think.

They don't have as much as you might think
12-01-2015, 06:39 PM
PassInterference

I won't believe there's anything to this story until Steven Godfrey writes an article about it.
12-01-2015, 06:43 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I thought it was posted here by several people in "the know," including Coach34, that Mirando was fired over some kind of sex scandal, not NCAA violations?

uhhhhhhh no
12-01-2015, 06:55 PM
somebodyshotmypaw

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I thought it was posted here by several people in "the know," including Coach34, that Mirando was fired over some kind of sex scandal, not NCAA violations?

Mirando resigned in 2012, and this site wasn't started until 2013, so nothing was posted here period. However, prior to the word coming out about the violation, it was discussed on another board (sixpack) about Mirando leaving for possibly dating a student or teacher or something. That was mentioned by several posters, including one that went by the name of Coach34. But that was early speculation that folks were hearing, and folks admitted such. As it turned out, it was fact that Mirando was dating a student or teacher as speculated, so the posters' speculation was partially correct. But that was not the reason for the resignation as later discovered. Most all posters stated it as speculation and not fact.
12-01-2015, 07:28 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Coach34

uhhhhhhh no

Actually, you repeatedly said that the firing was due to a relationship and not because of NCAA Sanctions:

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...arding-Mirando
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...u-want-to-drag
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...-about-Mirando

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...l=1#post750167
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...l=1#post751785
12-01-2015, 07:32 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Actually, you repeatedly said that the firing was due to a relationship and not because of NCAA Sanctions:

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...arding-Mirando
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...u-want-to-drag
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...-about-Mirando

http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...l=1#post750167
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showt...l=1#post751785

ohhhh thats right. I had forgotten we were using the Ole Miss playbook to control the message as long as possible.

To the 2nd part- we arent a 3-9 program anymore. Its that simple. This particular team should have won at least 10 games. Next year's team wont have that same expectation-next year's team just needs to get bowl eligible.
12-01-2015, 09:02 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Bingo. It's amazing some of the biggest sunshine pumpers like Liverpool call Miami a better job than us. On second thought, that explains a lot.

Not to me personally. I DO NOT LIKE Miami. I have family there( 2 Miami grads) and have spent some time down there. I don't know much but I probably know a bit more about Miami and the Gables than most here. HOWEVER if you ask football people my guess is 90-95% of the ones not wearing our version of maroon and white would say the Miami job is better. We have WAY better facilities and support. They have WAY better recruiting grounds and history.
12-01-2015, 09:07 PM
BrunswickDawg

And everyone is forgetting Dan's real motivation - don't y'all know ALL Yankees want to move to South Florida! Del Boca Vista Phase II needs a new condo association president.
12-01-2015, 09:11 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

And everyone is forgetting Dan's real motivation - don't y'all know ALL Yankees want to move to South Florida! Del Boca Vista Phase II needs a new condo association president.

Till they go through their first summer. Then something like 50% move back north, seriously.

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