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Originally Posted by Coach34

I'm in no way saying we should have kept Arnett. But I am saying nothing has been impressive about Lebby to this point. Best thing he has done so far is land a legacy QB that most State coaches would have signed.

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Lebby had no chance with what was "gifted" or left with the mess Arnett created. Come on 34, you were all in 100% sure of Arnett and staff. In saying this, it is a wait and see on what Lebby can do, our tradition sucks and we have had two really good coaches in my lifetime as a Msu fan and graduate, JWS and DM, I suppose I should put Leach as the the third as he at least produced better than most Coaches.
I agree with Todd, Arnett was the worse HC ever at Msu! At least Leach left him with some talent.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Come on 34, you were all in 100% sure of Arnett and staff.

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I supported them. I would have supported Bobby Hall as HC after 3 tortuous years of The Airbone

BOC says no dice / he?s got future support at UVA

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

BOC says no dice / he?s got future support at UVA

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And the beat goes on. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. But we've always known that and we'll always know that. <sigh>

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

BOC says no dice / he?s got future support at UVA

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Sure hope that's just coachspeak or else the hire is a disappointment.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

You guys are some of the very few impressed with the football hire. We went in saying we wanted someone with HC'ing experience and came out with a coordinator from his previous school that had a worse season than what we fired. We are in Y2 and just making a bowl game is very iffy still.

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Who are you talking about with "you guys". I told everyone before we hired Lebby that the OU faithful wanted him out of there as my inlaws are boosters there. Thankfully they got humbled this past year.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I'm in no way saying we should have kept Arnett. But I am saying nothing has been impressive about Lebby to this point. Best thing he has done so far is land a legacy QB that most State coaches would have signed.

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We moved the ball with a true freshman QB and a crappy Oline. The team never quit on him. And he has been working his ass off this offseason in the portal. That's 3 positives.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Lebby had no chance with what was "gifted" or left with the mess Arnett created. Come on 34, you were all in 100% sure of Arnett and staff. In saying this, it is a wait and see on what Lebby can do, our tradition sucks and we have had two really good coaches in my lifetime as a Msu fan and graduate, JWS and DM, I suppose I should put Leach as the the third as he at least produced better than most Coaches.
I agree with Todd, Arnett was the worse HC ever at Msu! At least Leach left him with some talent.

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Base - I enjoy your wisdom on this board. But Arnett didn't create any mess. That was Moorhead/Cohen/keenum that created it. Leach didn't help it. And neither did Arnett.

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

BOC says no dice / he?s got future support at UVA

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And like I tried telling everyone - it was only a red flag that he was mentioned so quick. We have been a part of so many coaching searches the last decade that everyone here should have known what that was about. Kendall should give ED some commission for pushing his narratives.

I tried to get us back on the rails but here we are

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If we still had Arnett we would have just fired him for driving through the Starkville Wendy's naked. Arnett was the worst coach I have ever seen at MSU and our program wasn't going anywhere until we fired him. Lebby has had to clean up his mess.

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Arnett made Croom look like Saban.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Arnett made Croom look like Saban.

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Arnett won 5 games. That’s 2 seasons for Crooms

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Base - I enjoy your wisdom on this board. But Arnett didn't create any mess. That was Moorhead/Cohen/keenum that created it. Leach didn't help it. And neither did Arnett.

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Thanks and I can agree with what u r saying. But Arnett had really bad assistants and he wasn't close to being ready as HC.
Glad it only took one year. I have not a clue how it's gonna go for Lebby but I think he has been working his butt of in recruiting and portal. I just hope we can get the players coached up.

One thing we've learned over the years. The first names that "leak" out are smokescreens.

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

I tried to get us back on the rails but here we are

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Tried to talk them 2 pages ago, but like you said, “here we are”, again.

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And like I tried telling everyone - it was only a red flag that he was mentioned so quick. We have been a part of so many coaching searches the last decade that everyone here should have known what that was about. Kendall should give ED some commission for pushing his narratives.

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I'm not surprised that Virginia stepped up. I'm glad that it's happening now and not 4-5 weeks from now.

Like Schlossnagle.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

One thing we've learned over the years. The first names that "leak" out are smokescreens.

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Yep. And it's usually not the obvious MSU guy with connections either- so it's probably not Coggin either.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Arnett won 5 games. That’s 2 seasons for Crooms

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Lmao. Arnett almost destroyed the program in record time. He would have never sniffed a bowl.
Croom absolutely sucked, but was 100 times better than Arnett.
Croom went to a bowl.
Croom beat Bama twice, including a win over Saban.
Croom left a pretty decent team for Mullen.

Arnett did absolutely NOTHING positive.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

One thing we've learned over the years. The first names that "leak" out are smokescreens.

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100%

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Lmao. Arnett almost destroyed the program in record time. He would have never sniffed a bowl.
Croom absolutely sucked, but was 100 times better than Arnett.
Croom went to a bowl.
Croom beat Bama twice, including a win over Saban.
Croom left a pretty decent team for Mullen.

Arnett did absolutely NOTHING positive.

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Croom beat a different animal than the one Bama is today.
It took 4 years for Croom to make a bowl. Croom lost to Maine.

End of discussion

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm not surprised that Virginia stepped up. I'm glad that it's happening now and not 4-5 weeks from now.

Like Schlossnagle.

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and just like that- Mini-Me and O'Conner are out of the chase. I keep saying it- our hire is going to be lesser P4/G5/Top Assistant

That is how this hire turns out. There is no magic oddball Airbone hire out there that wanted to be closer to Key West in baseball like there was in football. Or successful out of work coach that a major shoe company pitches us to hire.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

and just like that- Mini-Me and O'Conner are out of the chase. I keep saying it- our hire is going to be lesser P4/G5/Top Assistant

That is how this hire turns out. There is no magic oddball Airbone hire out there that wanted to be closer to Key West in baseball like there was in football. Or successful out of work coach that a major shoe company pitches us to hire.

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I wouldn't be so sure that BOC is out of play. There was zero denial that he is a candidate for our job in that statement.

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Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely

I wouldn't be so sure that BOC is out of play. There was zero denial that he is a candidate for our job in that statement.

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I agree totally.

Agree on BOC. I'm not sure why WJ is even a candidate. Isn't he the one with the wife that hated it the whole time they were in Starkville?

Baseball coaches arent football/basketball coaches. They dont job hop once they get their gig

Thinking a guy is going to leave Va after 22 years when he is getting what he wants in a successful program to move to Mississippi is kinda delusional

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I agree totally.

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He said EXACTLY what I'd say if I was pondering another job but still employed. Don't deny your interest but Never mention the potential employer. Simply pump up your current employer because if you decide to stay, you wanna make it look like you think they are fantastic. Depending on how you read it, he's kinda putting UVA on the spot! Come through with some "elite" funding, or...

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Agree on BOC. I'm not sure why WJ is even a candidate. Isn't he the one with the wife that hated it the whole time they were in Starkville?

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Georgia doesnt know his wife hated StarkVegas. He is going to use us to get a raise and something else built for him at Georgia

Kendall Rogers is Garbage

Stop giving this loser clicks.

https://dailyprogress.com/sports/col...616c224c2.html

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Baseball coaches arent football/basketball coaches. They dont job hop once they get their gig

Thinking a guy is going to leave Va after 22 years when he is getting what he wants in a successful program to move to Mississippi is kinda delusional

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Well that's the thing- apparently he isn't getting what he wants.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

and just like that- Mini-Me and O'Conner are out of the chase. I keep saying it- our hire is going to be lesser P4/G5/Top Assistant

That is how this hire turns out. There is no magic oddball Airbone hire out there that wanted to be closer to Key West in baseball like there was in football. Or successful out of work coach that a major shoe company pitches us to hire.

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Listening to Hadad and the Baseball America guy interview, he wasn?t sure about Johnson being a candidate because it would cost State around 6 million. He went on to say that O?Connor is a real candidate and makes the most sense. If it was just agent talk or whatever, he would say the same on both of them about being a serious candidate

I read the O'Conner statement. It was about as deflective as you can get. He may not come, but him saying that he has great resources is just trying to get us to offer more and wow him. I mean what's he going to do, come out and say that a school that pays him in excess of a million dollars is not giving him support? Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I have said for a while that I don't think O'Conner is the number 1 candidate.

Who is the #1 candidate in your opinion?

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Who is the #1 candidate in your opinion?

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I tend to think it's Eric Bakich.

1. He's disgruntled at Clemson for a myriad of reasons but most stem from attendance and NIL. He's told multiple people in the last few weeks that the fact that the Savannah Bananas can sell out the football stadium and he averages only around 5K/game for a weekend series pisses him off. He also knows that Clemson is going to allot as much of the university allowed NIL funds to football and basketball. He MIGHT get to split the remaining 5-10% with all the other sports on campus.

2. He's been in this conference. He was with Corbin at Vandy and helped him build the foundation for those CWS trips and national championships in later seasons.

3. He's won EVERYWHERE. He took Michigan to the CWS finals and has Clemson back rolling again like they were under Monte Lee.

4. If we're not afraid to pay Wes Johnson's payout, then we're not going to be afraid to pay Bakich's buyout.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I tend to think it's Eric Bakich.

1. He's disgruntled at Clemson for a myriad of reasons but most stem from attendance and NIL. He's told multiple people in the last few weeks that the fact that the Savannah Bananas can sell out the football stadium and he averages only around 5K/game for a weekend series pisses him off. He also knows that Clemson is going to allot as much of the university allowed NIL funds to football and basketball. He MIGHT get to split the remaining 5-10% with all the other sports on campus.

2. He's been in this conference. He was with Corbin at Vandy and helped him build the foundation for those CWS trips and national championships in later seasons.

3. He's won EVERYWHERE. He took Michigan to the CWS finals and has Clemson back rolling again like they were under Monte Lee.

4. If we're not afraid to pay Wes Johnson's payout, then we're not going to be afraid to pay Bakich's buyout.

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Could very well be. It could be someone that we talked about very early but haven’t heard about recently like a Pollard.

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

Could very well be. It could be someone that we talked about very early but haven’t heard about recently like a Pollard.

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I definitely think he is a candidate as well.

Bakich>Pollard

I'd take Bakich and be very happy with the hire.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

and just like that- Mini-Me and O'Conner are out of the chase. I keep saying it- our hire is going to be lesser P4/G5/Top Assistant

That is how this hire turns out. There is no magic oddball Airbone hire out there that wanted to be closer to Key West in baseball like there was in football. Or successful out of work coach that a major shoe company pitches us to hire.

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I wouldn't be so quick to believe that.....

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I wouldn't be so quick to believe that.....

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I could believe Bakich if Clemson isnt giving him resources altho its still going to be a tough pull. I just dont see an SEC coach leaving- especially in the talent rich area he is in to recruit from easily

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I could believe Bakich if Clemson isnt giving him resources altho its still going to be a tough pull. I just dont see an SEC coach leaving- especially in the talent rich area he is in to recruit from easily

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Clemson isn't giving him resources. They give him little NIL to work with and will be giving less once revenue share kicks in. And with what we already have pledged next year for just baseball in NIL, it would be pretty attractive.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I could believe Bakich if Clemson isnt giving him resources altho its still going to be a tough pull. I just dont see an SEC coach leaving- especially in the talent rich area he is in to recruit from easily

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I very seriously doubt Wes leaves. I think he's interested in it because it's a step up and we have a bit more resources here but UGA will bump his salary and he'll be fine. They give him enough to win there. Hell he's in Year 2 and will be a national seed for the second straight year.