Mmmm... not so sure about that. They've gone head to head with some really good teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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Mmmm... not so sure about that. They've gone head to head with some really good teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Everyone take a good look at Hubbard in a State jersey. Probably the last time we will see it.
Been watching State basketball all my life, trust me I know! I've also stated plenty of times I worried about Jans' offense, today shows me why I've always worried about it. I give Jans his credit when he deserves it but I speak facts about him when its deserving and facts are, our offese looks terrible....it has for most of the year but we excuse it at times becase of the wins. We are getting esposed today thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
2 points in the 2nd half. 6-18.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Nice knowing ya J-Hub
I don't think he will leave, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I'll be surprised if he isn't back.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Well that was embarrassing
Agreed. I'm happy Jans brought us back to being respectable but his offense is a serious problem. It's the same offense as football last year. Slow and terribleQuote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
It may be a while before we get to the tournament again. Jans has been awful with the portal
Definitely not a good game, but damn who else is going to score if he doesn't get hot? Tolu has disappeared, Cam isn't a scorer, Jones isnt a scorer, Shak gets hot and cold, Murphy is the same... the list goes on and onQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I'm ready to see him this season. Last season, he was basically recruiting to a team with established starters. This season, well... there's some holesQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Are you really advocating to fire a coach that has got to the tourney in both his seasons?Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
Yes he has, thats another concernQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Our debt for a great week hasn't been fully paid yet boys. You know what's in store for us starting tonight in baseball now, right? Man, I hope I'm wrong
Point me to where I said fired? You can't. So you obviously have a hard time reading
So we bring back:
Hubbard- 50/50 on if he comes back
Murphy- hopeful he does not come back
Jones-Will probably come back but provides nothing tbh.
Matthews- I guess you bring him back for defense.
Fort- needs to leave.
Scott- no clue.
Chol- Will probably stay
Moore- I think he has another year but if he is not going to shoot he needs to leave.
Myers- no clue but looks like he has decent size.
So at the LEAST we are going to need 5-6 new players that can score. Next year could be rough with or without Hubbard.
Which is why we should have never been in the 8/9 matchup this year. The whole season has been disappointing for meQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I mean you could see the holes this team had before the season. We we were always going to be AT BEST a 6 seed. The Southern game cost us a seed line though.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
Nothing says I wanna keep a coach like he's a problem in half the game. He's shown real progress on offense this season...Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
2023 Kenpom off - 176th
2024 kenpom off - 60th
That's due to 1 person and his name is Josh Hubbard. If we didn't have him we would be in the same exact spot
Cool, who signed em?Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
Some need to quit being so emotional and calm TF down. We got a good, young coach. We need to exercise some patience while he grows more into being a really good HC. He doesn't impress me as someone who ain't gonna try to always get better. And he's pretty decent now.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Today Jans went up against probably the current active best NCAA tournament coach there is. There is one team in SEC that could have "maybe" won today and that is AU. Every other SEC team would've been smoked too.
Jans only because ole miss fired kirby. Not sure why you think this is some gotcha. Stick to talking about baseball because you have no idea about basketball.
I guess I'm just getting older, but I don't flip out too much anymore. The metrics were clear who the better team was entering this game, so I knew it would be an uphill battle. We lost, but I can still appreciate a good season. I hope jans is here the next decadeQuote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
We played terrible today, but y?all are insane if you?re hating on Jans right now.
Man, it pains you to give Jans credit for getting him, doesn't it? Hubbard shows 13 offers out of HS... didn't realize it was just us and OM, basketball guru.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
You were responding to someone else and I was adding to your response. I wasn't contradicting you. You good.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You realize he's a basketball genius, right? Stick to something else and don't call out stupid posts by himQuote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
I know. Just saying I used to be the one taking this nonsense in hereQuote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
I want Jans to succeed but you have your head in the sand. He had a terrible offense at NMSU and he has a terrible offense here. He's brought one offensive player to his team in2 years and that's Hubbard. That should be frightening to anyone to see.
In hoops our fans think we need to be KY. In football ... Bama.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You right on metrics but metrics would have to be pretty far apart for me to bet against Izzo in early rounds of Big Dance. In fact I'm betting on Izzo Saturday ... Even tho it's a UNC home game
It is ok to be concerned about Jans and his offense, or lack there of. However, I do not really know what some of yall want. Stansbury was fired because we lost games we were not supposed to, Ray was fired well….I think we know that one, Howland was fired because he did not get to the tournament enough, and know we got people wanting to fire Jans because although he has been to the tournament his first two years he did not win.
The main crux of this whole issue is some of our fans want to act like we are a blue blood in basketball when we are most assuredly not. We have made it past the first weekend TWICE, 2 times, in the modern tourney era. That is not a blue blood.
you win in the Big dance with guards and defense.. That is why Izzo wins. His guard is top 5 in country. Our best guard scored 2 points in second half and got abused on defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yep. It was just a bad game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
This is 100% correct. I've said it for years you win with guards and we only had 1 true consistent guard and thats Hubbard.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70