Will isn't the answer....

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Missing for a haircut appt is the one that is crazy to me. Or the kids that miss 2 or even 3 days of practice that week and are then shocked when they dont play on Friday. People in the hall asking why we practice everyday????? Just makes you shake your head at this generation.

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Yep, I've heard the exact same excuses for missing oractices. Man it's just such a different world and I'm a dinosaur I guess. I know my kids never missed a practice. No Country for Old Men, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Percho

You guys kill me. Alabama nearly lost a week ago to a team we stomped and lost this past weekend. Did superstar Coach Saban who gets paid twice as much as our coach fail? Is he over the hill?

Saban saw Alabama looked ?tight? before Vols

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LOL, I'd rather have a team be tight than unprepared. Also while lot of difference in Bama losing a very close game to us being dominated.
Leach may be the best we can get as a HC. Our history says he is one of our best. I'm all in for MSU, I'm just not all in with the air raid. I will always pull for us to win in every sport.
Btw, it's a message board, take what I say or think with a grain of salt.

The whole team didn?t seem to be really there. Offense was lackluster and to quote Will Rogers himself, ? this offense will go as far as I go?. With that being said, he has a bad game, happens to everyone. Just sucks because everyone had high expectations of this game being a win. He will bounce back and so will the team.

But those of you thinking bringing in Altmeyer or someone else like that will help is crazy. We have some of the highest rated QBs in high school on the roster and they are not ready with a year under their belt. Bringing someone else in basically throws away next year. Will is our guy, gives us the best chance to win NOW. So just accept Will is your QB, swish it around and then swallow. You?ll feel better in the morning. Hail State

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Originally Posted by basedog

How can a 5 million Dollar Coach say he knew we were in trouble because we had a bad week of practice? If I'm Cohen we would be having a good long conversation Sunday afternoon. I was shocked to hear Leach say that.

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Bingo. It means he was allowing it. SEC HC ain't the kind of job where you go home after 8 hours and leave the work at work. Hell no. You stay and make everyone else stay until you get it fixed. If he saw it and allowed it - inexcusable.

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Originally Posted by DeltaChicagoDog

Bingo. It means he was allowing it. SEC HC ain't the kind of job where you go home after 8 hours and leave the work at work. Hell no. You stay and make everyone else stay until you get it fixed. If he saw it and allowed it - inexcusable.

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Well, I'm ole school, just because kids or players are soft doesn't mean a Coach has to cow down and let things go. No wonder the Bear and Saban are the GOATS in their times, yes, they have more talent than most, but they hold them accountable. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

One last thing - people blaming the defense for this loss has lost their damn mind.

We had 4 drives in the first half. Only one ended up with points. Our defense gave up 3 points in the first half.

Second half we had 1 sustained offensive drive. One.

Hell the defense scored 7 points and offense scored 10. Our defense wasn't perfect, but they played well enough to get a W. If the offense shows up in the first half, we should be up 17-3 at halftime.

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The defense absolutely deserves a lot of blame. We gave up 24 points in the second half and it would have been more if UK doesn?t take a knee at the goal line to end the game.

Our offense is hit and miss since Leach has been here, that?s not really a new phenomenon. It needs to be more consistent but we?ve won some games in spite of it here and there. But our defense being pushed around by freaking Kentucky is a major, major issue. One that may cause us to not win another SEC game if we don?t get it fixed. Don?t think Auburn can?t come in here and run it down our throats too.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Well, I'm ole school, just because kids or players are soft doesn't mean a Coach has to cow down and let things go. No wonder the Bear and Saban are the GOATS in their times, yes, they have more talent than most, but they hold them accountable. Just saying.

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Oh yeah, I'm in full agreement.

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Originally Posted by DeltaChicagoDog

Bingo. It means he was allowing it. SEC HC ain't the kind of job where you go home after 8 hours and leave the work at work. Hell no. You stay and make everyone else stay until you get it fixed. If he saw it and allowed it - inexcusable.

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Well, that would cause MSU to violate the rules of the NCAA. Division I Manual under Bylaw 17.1. 7.1. Surely you would not want Leach to violate the NCAA rules that would get MSU in trouble.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Well, I'm ole school, just because kids or players are soft doesn't mean a Coach has to cow down and let things go. No wonder the Bear and Saban are the GOATS in their times, yes, they have more talent than most, but they hold them accountable. Just saying.

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And he does. We all have the history. While here he removed the top RB and others for not following rules. There is zero evidence that he "Allowed" anything. BTW, Bama has won many games on talent alone. UT didn't really beat bama without the help of Bama players. As in a muffed punt. Saban says the same things Leach does about things like that.

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Originally Posted by SilentSteel16

But those of you thinking bringing in Altmeyer or someone else like that will help is crazy. We have some of the highest rated QBs in high school on the roster and they are not ready with a year under their belt. Bringing someone else in basically throws away next year. Will is our guy, gives us the best chance to win NOW. So just accept Will is your QB, swish it around and then swallow. You?ll feel better in the morning. Hail State

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Ok this could be an interesting conversation.

Well the only reason I mentioned Altmyer is because his last name is on buildings at MSU. I hated to see us pass on him. We need to take care of those that take care of us. I believe he is entering the transfer portal or at least exploring options.

Admittedly, I have not seen Robertson play other than Bowling Green. However you and many others say Will is our best option or you hear Robertson isn't ready. I agree Rogers is the guy this year and for the remainder of the year. However while I think this offense has limitations, I'm seeing what others have said in the past. Rogers needs to be more athletic or dynamic to expand the potential of this offense. He goes down to easy, reluctant to run and takes the easier options on throws.... mostly. That isn't just me saying that. I'm a Rogers fan.

So keeping in mind, what can we do to push Rogers to run, be more aggressive?..... competition. There needs to be more competition for QB1 next spring. If Robertson is a truly a 4 star, he should be pushing Rogers this year and next spring for the starting role. If those in the know keep saying Robertson isn't ready.... well I begin to question his overall talent and wonder if there is someone else to bring in to push Rogers and be ready if needed.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Well, that would cause MSU to violate the rules of the NCAA. Division I Manual under Bylaw 17.1. 7.1. Surely you would not want Leach to violate the NCAA rules that would get MSU in trouble.

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You're referring to practice time. Leach can stay as long as he wants to get things in the right direction. Personal could have changed, practice the following days, etc. He could have fixed it.

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Ok this could be an interesting conversation.

Well the only reason I mentioned Altmyer is because his last name is on buildings at MSU. I hated to see us pass on him. We need to take care of those that take care of us. I believe he is entering the transfer portal or at least exploring options.

Admittedly, I have not seen Robertson play other than Bowling Green. However you and many others say Will is our best option or you hear Robertson isn't ready. I agree Rogers is the guy this year and for the remainder of the year. However while I think this offense has limitations, I'm seeing what others have said in the past. Rogers needs to be more athletic or dynamic to expand the potential of this offense. He goes down to easy, reluctant to run and takes the easier options on throws.... mostly. That isn't just me saying that. I'm a Rogers fan.

So keeping in mind, what can we do to push Rogers to run, be more aggressive?..... competition. There needs to be more competition for QB1 next spring. If Robertson is a truly a 4 star, he should be pushing Rogers this year and next spring for the starting role. If those in the know keep saying Robertson isn't ready.... well I begin to question his overall talent and wonder if there is someone else to bring in to push Rogers and be ready if needed.

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There is no competition until Leach shows it at Qb.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

You're referring to practice time. Leach can stay as long as he wants to get things in the right direction. Personal could have changed, practice the following days, etc. He could have fixed it.

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He stated "You stay and make everyone else stay until you get it fixed." Everyone else staying includes players because they are the ones with the issue.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

He stated "You stay and make everyone else stay until you get it fixed." Everyone else staying includes players because they are the ones with the issue.

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Nah fam, you gotta read between the lines in this one. He is just talking about coaches that?s it. Obviously these are student athletes so student comes first they cannot be there until the wee hours of the morning.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

He stated "You stay and make everyone else stay until you get it fixed." Everyone else staying includes players because they are the ones with the issue.

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LOL, you obviously didn't understand my take on Coaching.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

You're referring to practice time. Leach can stay as long as he wants to get things in the right direction. Personal could have changed, practice the following days, etc. He could have fixed it.

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Yes

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

You're referring to practice time. Leach can stay as long as he wants to get things in the right direction. Personal could have changed, practice the following days, etc. He could have fixed it.

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You played. Did y'all never have a week of practice where you just felt nothing was clicking? A week where maybe the defense or offense didn't seem to be getting the game plan well, or that people were making unusual mistakes?
I only played high school baseball, and I know we had periods like that. Everyone just seemed to be off, timing was bad. And it didn't matter how we changed things up - nothing seemed to break the funk. It typically meant we got our ass beat that week if it carried over to the games. Sometimes it did, and yep, we got our ass beat. Coaches would juggle the line up, move guys around, or bench someone, and still we just funked it up. Sometimes, the funk would only last 2-3 innings and then something would spark everyone - a big hit, a great defensive play, a pitcher battling back with 1 out and the bases juiced to get 2 big K's - and would break out. Sports are weird like that, and I'd be surprised if you've never seen that happen.

ETA: I'm not condoning it or excusing it - I've just experienced it so it doesn't shock me to hear the coaches weren't happy with practices last week.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

You played. Did y'all never have a week of practice where you just felt nothing was clicking? A week where maybe the defense or offense didn't seem to be getting the game plan well, or that people were making unusual mistakes?
I only played high school baseball, and I know we had periods like that. Everyone just seemed to be off, timing was bad. And it didn't matter how we changed things up - nothing seemed to break the funk. It typically meant we got our ass beat that week if it carried over to the games. Sometimes it did, and yep, we got our ass beat. Coaches would juggle the line up, move guys around, or bench someone, and still we just funked it up. Sometimes, the funk would only last 2-3 innings and then something would spark everyone - a big hit, a great defensive play, a pitcher battling back with 1 out and the bases juiced to get 2 big K's - and would break out. Sports are weird like that, and I'd be surprised if you've never seen that happen.

ETA: I'm not condoning it or excusing it - I've just experienced it so it doesn't shock me to hear the coaches weren't happy with practices last week.

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Even Saban.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

You played. Did y'all never have a week of practice where you just felt nothing was clicking? A week where maybe the defense or offense didn't seem to be getting the game plan well, or that people were making unusual mistakes?
I only played high school baseball, and I know we had periods like that. Everyone just seemed to be off, timing was bad. And it didn't matter how we changed things up - nothing seemed to break the funk. It typically meant we got our ass beat that week if it carried over to the games. Sometimes it did, and yep, we got our ass beat. Coaches would juggle the line up, move guys around, or bench someone, and still we just funked it up. Sometimes, the funk would only last 2-3 innings and then something would spark everyone - a big hit, a great defensive play, a pitcher battling back with 1 out and the bases juiced to get 2 big K's - and would break out. Sports are weird like that, and I'd be surprised if you've never seen that happen.

ETA: I'm not condoning it or excusing it - I've just experienced it so it doesn't shock me to hear the coaches weren't happy with practices last week.

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It can happen to any team at any level, be it football, baseball, basketball, soccer or whatever sport. Like you said not excusing it but it happens. Heck if it can happen to a Belichik coached team it can happen to anyone.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

It can happen to any team at any level, be it football, baseball, basketball, soccer or whatever sport. Like you said not excusing it but it happens. Heck if it can happen to a Belichik coached team it can happen to anyone.

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Makes you wonder if some of these people have ever played a sport. Teams go flat, teams have up and downs, players play like shit sometimes. Sometimes you need a loss to get better. They aren’t robots.