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03-24-2022, 02:24 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

This team is built for a decent year. We have more returning experience than just about any SEC team. This needs to be at least an 8 win season, including a win over OM, for me to continue my patient support of Leach. If we **** around and only win 6 games and lose to OM again I'm all for Cohen pulling the trigger on the experiment.

I tend to agree.The only way I would want to keep him if he loses to om again is if we have 11 wins going into the Egg Bowl, lol. I still thinks 7 wins with an om win is my floor for this year based on the schedule but I want us to do better.
03-24-2022, 02:28 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

As long as he makes a bowl game he’s not getting fired. Whether he beats OM or not. Cohen is going to give Leach a longer leash because he’s a very important hire for him.
03-24-2022, 02:29 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

As long as he makes a bowl game he’s not getting fired. Whether he beats OM or not. Cohen is going to give Leach a longer leash because he’s a very important hire for him.

I believe you're right but if he loses to om again there's gonna be a lot of support bailing on him.
03-24-2022, 02:43 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

As long as he makes a bowl game he’s not getting fired. Whether he beats OM or not. Cohen is going to give Leach a longer leash because he’s a very important hire for him.

And fan support will crater. Cohen better hope Jans gets us to the Tourney next year. 6-6 and a bowl game is unacceptable next season. Year three with a veteran offense, 6-6 ain't cutting it. Throw in a loss to OM and people will bail on football the way they did basketball.
03-24-2022, 02:57 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I like Leach a lot but he needs to beat om this year and we need to have a good year. A good year to me would be 7 wins(regular season) and beating om, a very good year would be 8 and beating om, more than 8 wins I would consider a great year. We have to play well and hard and look competent. We definitely have to beat om this year or he's gonna lose just about everyone and at that point he's dead in the water.

I agree with 7 being a good year. Less than that is an issue.
03-24-2022, 03:09 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Bowl games? Or 1 game?

Since when do bowl games not count?

Ok by that logic Leach has avg 5 wins his 2 seasons. He better get to winning if he’s going to avg 7.1 regular season wins.

Bottom line Mullen & his program had 3 9 win or more seasons his last 4 seasons. Those are facts without any ifs, ands, or buts. Leach need to hit that this year because if he doesn’t in 2022 he’s not going to at MSU.

1 game. Following the 2017 season.

Bowl games have always been a horrible way to judge a team and coach, especially since players started quitting before the bowl games and don't care to show up.

Sure, but then you have to remove dans nonconference wins from a year since leach didn't get to play any in 2020.

******* last 4 years were 8-4, 10-2, 5-7, 8-4. That's 7.75 wins a year. If you count bowl games he won, it's 8.25. So an 8-4 2022 regular season tops what Dan averaged in the regular season his last 4 years.
03-24-2022, 03:34 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by confucius say

1 game. Following the 2017 season.

Bowl games have always been a horrible way to judge a team and coach, especially since players started quitting before the bowl games and don't care to show up.

Sure, but then you have to remove dans nonconference wins from a year since leach didn't get to play any in 2020.

******* last 4 years were 8-4, 10-2, 5-7, 8-4. That's 7.75 wins a year. If you count bowl games he won, it's 8.25. So an 8-4 2022 regular season tops what Dan averaged in the regular season his last 4 years.

Mississippi State University won 10 games in 2014, 9 games in 2015, 6 in 2016, & 9 in 2017.

Manipulate the #’s anyway you want the record book has 3 9 win seasons in Mullen last 4 years. Anything is just talk. Mullen last 4 seasons MSU won 34 games. That’s not speculation that’s just conjecture that’s truth.
03-24-2022, 03:43 PM
bulldawg28

I'm still upset that Leach didn't attend Pro Day. Barring some major situation that screams I don't care. I've never heard of any successful coach doing players like that. Current players are watching this. The because I said so mentality will become a downfall quickly. However, Leach is pimping this university so he wins either way.
03-24-2022, 03:44 PM
calidawg

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

As long as he makes a bowl game he?s not getting fired. Whether he beats OM or not. Cohen is going to give Leach a longer leash because he?s a very important hire for him.

that's all good and well to say now, but if we go 6-6 with an OM loss (for the 3rd year in a row) the fanbase WILL revolt by ending their attendance. Cohen won't have a choice.
03-24-2022, 03:57 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by calidawg

that's all good and well to say now, but if we go 6-6 with an OM loss (for the 3rd year in a row) the fanbase WILL revolt by ending their attendance. Cohen won't have a choice.

He make a bowl Cohen isn’t firing him minus an off-field incident.
03-24-2022, 05:03 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

He make a bowl Cohen isn’t firing him minus an off-field incident.

6-6 with a loss to Ole Miss again, no way he keeps his job. We have 4 gimmie wins on the schedule.
03-24-2022, 05:31 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

As long as he makes a bowl game he’s not getting fired. Whether he beats OM or not. Cohen is going to give Leach a longer leash because he’s a very important hire for him.

I thought you were saying something different previously regarding this year's expectations as if Leach was on notice sir .
03-24-2022, 05:38 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

I thought you were saying something different previously regarding this year's expectations as if Leach was on notice sir .

My opinion is we should win a minimum 8 regular season games.

My expectation is that if he goes 6-6 Cohen isn’t going to get rid of him.
03-24-2022, 05:46 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

My opinion is we should win a minimum 8 regular season games.

My expectation is that if he goes 6-6 Cohen isn’t going to get rid of him.

Gotcha. I take it then Your's & Cohen's minimum expectations may differ.
03-24-2022, 06:07 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Gotcha. I take it then Your's & Cohen's minimum expectations may differ.

Not sure.
03-24-2022, 10:00 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Mississippi State University won 10 games in 2014, 9 games in 2015, 6 in 2016, & 9 in 2017.

Manipulate the #’s anyway you want the record book has 3 9 win seasons in Mullen last 4 years. Anything is just talk. Mullen last 4 seasons MSU won 34 games. That’s not speculation that’s just conjecture that’s truth.

It's not manipulation. It's a fact. I'm just counting regular season games and you are counting bowl games. Both are facts.

But to get to 34 you are giving Dan credit for a game in which he didn't even coach. At best, even counting bowl games, dan won 33 games his last four years, which is 8.25 as I stated above (Which is phenomenal at Miss State by the way- never been done before and likely never will again).
03-24-2022, 10:07 PM
confucius say

If we go 8-4 against the toughest schedule in college football with the worst talent in the west then leach should probably win sec coach of the year.
Certainly should at 9-3.
03-24-2022, 10:20 PM
Catfish

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Originally Posted by confucius say

If we go 8-4 against the toughest schedule in college football with the worst talent in the west then leach should probably win sec coach of the year.
Certainly should at 9-3.

Agreed, I would take 7-5 with this schedule.
03-24-2022, 10:26 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

He make a bowl Cohen isn’t firing him minus an off-field incident.

Either way, Cohen's ass would be on the hot seat. Keep him after a mediocre year would be a hotter seat than firing him.
03-25-2022, 12:45 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Either way, Cohen's ass would be on the hot seat. Keep him after a mediocre year would be a hotter seat than firing him.

I highly doubt Cohen's ass will be on the hot seat unless Jans, the women's basketball coach, and Leach all don't work out.

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