Masks or no masks, this is still gonna spread. If anything, the masks will lengthen the time it takes to run its course. You people thinking masks are an instant solution are nieve at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joebob
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Masks or no masks, this is still gonna spread. If anything, the masks will lengthen the time it takes to run its course. You people thinking masks are an instant solution are nieve at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joebob
If masks were the Harry Potter wand they're made out to be we would have been encouraged to wear them every flu season before now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Zero bullshit. People could have acted differently and the cases would be much lower... like every other civilized country. Yeah, and 17 the 1% that might die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Protest encouraged? By that evil media? Lolz
https://i.postimg.cc/cJN6xD9W/IMG-0811.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We're are the laughing stock of the world.
And the death rate just keeps on dropping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/d...-3-day-average
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Originally Posted by Mobile Bay
And IF it's starts going up we'll just blame the hospitals for inflating the numbers for cash, right?
The populations of those countries together is approx. 255 million. The US has over 380 million. Testing is far more accessible than three months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
You cannot hide from a virus. You cannot wait it out.
I work in the medical field. All three of my MDs say this whole thing is all BULLSHIT.
People could have acted differently and the cases would be lower, for now. It's not clear how sustainable that is. And it's not clear how much worse the damage to the economy would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
We probably won't have a good idea of who handled it the best for another year or maybe even two depending on how long people keep modifying their behavior, and we see how many excess deaths there were over time and how everybody's economy did, and even then, it will be hard to figure out. For example, we're going to have a decent number of excess deaths from demoralizing so many of our police departments in relatively violent cities. Somebody is going to have to do the work of trying to determine which excess deaths, such as suicide, are probably meaningfully driven by our covid response, and which excess deaths, like increased murders in inner cities where police are under fire, are not. And then also how much of it was driven not by COVID policy responses but by endogenous factors like how unhealthy and susceptible the population is to begin with.
Is there zero correlation that massive protests of millions started and cases began to explode? Is that not at least part of the cause for case explosion? I'm not saying the protest were wrong mind you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Did you condemn the protest as unwise with respect to the spread of covid? Maybe you did, I honestly don't know.
The explosion is very much related to the protests, not only because there was transmission but probably just as importantly and maybe more importantly, because the response to the protests clearly communicated that people claiming COVID was serious and deadly didn't really believe that very strongly.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I know it's hard to contain your zeal to say Covid is bullshit over and over. This post was for Todd. He asked Sheldon to prove how masks, social distancing and shutdowns were successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Yes the protests absolutely share responsibility of cases going up, but the rise started after Memorial Day when people just said 17 it, I'm going on with my life. Fine, herd community and all that jazz... good for you. Well, and back to my original post, you're about to screw us all out of a football season. I'm sure we'll have plenty of blame to go around if that happens but the fact is we could've prevented a lot of this WHILE still opening our economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
damn ... I think this thread caught Covid ... Maybe y'all need to wear a mask while typing
It did.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
If by zeal you mean to uncover the veracity of what is just a campaign year stunt all b/c "Orange Man Bad". Yeah, I'm a zealot and it's still bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
But, hey, you post shit. You get a response. It's a message board.
Since you like to post about protests, I have a quick question for you: what came first - Trump publicly encouraging people to protest their state to reopen (to which they did) or George Floyd's death???Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Now, I'm not asking which had more people participate - I'm simply asking which one came first. I've linked some hints for you below as you attempt to answer my question...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...erous-n1187391
https://www.nytimes.com/article/geor...-timeline.html
https://i.imgur.com/Keu70jQ.png
Turfdawg, your graph was out of date.
Also, EU population = 446 million
Trump did. Not sure your point? I support all peaceful protests, even if I disagree with the underlying cause which the protest supports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Sure, it was unwise. But isn't it strange that cases aren't exploding in the areas with the largest protests, like NYC, DC, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I hope that's a good sign that there is immunity, seeing as nyc and Chicago and philly have had explosions previously. Not sure about Boston or dc, but generally the north was hit harder previously and the south now. Maybe that's why Houston and Phoenix have seen spikesQuote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Not really. Seems pretty clear climate plus the time of initial exposure plays a pretty significant role in the spread. The places you are mentioning have largely already had a spike and were unable to flatten the curve to begin with. Most of the places COVID is exploding now didn't have big spikes to begin with and are very hot and tend to spend much mroe time indoors with the air conditioning cranked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker