Rumor Mill Friday: 3 things I am hearing today...

Shrader is better than Franks right now.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Good to have you back. Why do you like Strong over Shoop? Recruiting? Cause looking at final finishes in total D I still like Shoop.

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Recruiting & the discipline factor he'd install. We need that discipline & toughness.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

If we can pull Strong he's the guy. Shoop is a very nice fallback option.

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Welcome back.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

$1.5-1.75 would be my ceiling.

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I saw we have a 4.7 million pool for 10 assistant coaches. Does that include the S&C coach?

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I saw we have a 4.7 million pool for 10 assistant coaches. Does that include the S&C coach?

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No that pool is just for on field assistants.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

No that pool is just for on field assistants.

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That's outstanding. 4.7 million without having to pay an OC should allow us to get pretty much whoever we want-within reason. Then if we are willing to go 500K or so we should be able to get a top notch S&C.

I want good on field coaches first b/c in today's world, I almost wonder if the off the field recruiting staff is more important for recruiting than having on field coaches who are great recruiters.

ETA: I realize both are important, but the off field recruiting staffs are becoming more and more key to the process. Gotta have a couple of closers on staff. This is where Charlie Strong could be huge.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

No that pool is just for on field assistants.

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I'm struggling to come up with 10 on field assistants:

1. Oline
2. Outside WR's
3. Inside WRs/TE
4. RB
5. DC/LB
6. DL
7. Safties
8. Corners
9. Special Teams
10. ?

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I'm struggling to come up with 10 on field assistants:

1. Oline
2. Outside WR's
3. Inside WRs/TE
4. RB
5. DC/LB
6. DL
7. Safties
8. Corners
9. Special Teams
10. ?

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You could always just have the DC oversee the D & hire a LB coach also.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

You could always just have the DC oversee the D & hire a LB coach also.

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That makes sense. I hate that some good names have already made decisions. Guys like Mike McIntyre and others....

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Shrader is better than Franks right now.

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Are you saying this because Franks is still rehabbing? I hope that?s why.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Shrader is better than Franks right now.

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Are you referring to ceiling? Because I would say Franks is better at the moment but Shrader could be better in time.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I'm struggling to come up with 10 on field assistants:

1. Oline
2. Outside WR's
3. Inside WRs/TE
4. RB
5. DC/LB
6. DL
7. Safties
8. Corners
9. Special Teams
10. ?

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Also I did some research and Leach's RB coach that he is rumored to be bringing in Eric Mele also appears to have coached ST at Wazzu.

I think it could be something like:

1. RB/ST
2. WR's
3. Inside WR's
4. O-line
5. DC- like IYOK said
6. DL
7. LB
8. CB
9. S
10. Nickle

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I like the fact that Strong runs a 3-3-5 defense.

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Oh heck no. I HATE the 3-3-5. As a "plug" to add as a "money" alignment for some passing downs to help bring in different angles for blitzes I'm fine. But I hate it as a base defense. There's still too much we need that 4th DL / hybrid DE to anchor a side down like in a 3-4 look.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

GRANTHAM isn't coming. Please drop this. It's NOT happening....

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This ^^^^^^^^^^^

I know the family personally and he IS NOT coming!

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Originally Posted by DeviousDawg

These may not be true, but this is atleast what I am hearing from trusted sources.

1. Charlie Strong is a legitimate candidate for DC and is interested. Would be a huge hire by all accounts.
2. Don?t be surprised if you see Felipe Franks take a visit to Mississippi State soon, not sure how I feel about it but I?m hearing Franks at MSU in 2020 is a real possibility.
3. KT will be playing for MSU next year, at Wide Receiver...

Like I said, none of these rumors are 100% for sure, but they are all legitimate possibilities, so take it for what it?s worth.

Happy Maroon Friday, it?s a new age for Mississippi State Football.

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Hell no on Franks, imo. Shrader, Moose and Rogers is good enough. If he can get his head on straight and with some coaching, Shrader could be insanely good. I see no reason to bring in Franks. The guy wasn't all that good at FL with way better WR talent and imo the best QB coach in the country in Mullen working with him. It would be Tommy Stevens all over again and further kill our QB room without any real reason.

If we're going to use the transfer portal, it needs to be for WRs. That's where we need a major upgrade.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Hell no on Franks, imo. Shrader, Moose and Rogers is good enough. If he can get his head on straight and with some coaching, Shrader could be insanely good. I see no reason to bring in Franks. The guy wasn't all that good at FL with way better WR talent and imo the best QB coach in the country in Mullen working with him. It would be Tommy Stevens all over again and further kill our QB room without any real reason.

If we're going to use the transfer portal, it needs to be for WRs. That's where we need a major upgrade.

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Agree 100%. Hail State!

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Originally Posted by Westdawg

Oh heck no. I HATE the 3-3-5. As a "plug" to add as a "money" alignment for some passing downs to help bring in different angles for blitzes I'm fine. But I hate it as a base defense. There's still too much we need that 4th DL / hybrid DE to anchor a side down like in a 3-4 look.

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Agreed 3-3-5 sucks, AND it doesnt fit our personnel since we have recruited way better at DL than LB. 4-2-5 is perfect for us.

Moreover, Stongs Ds as a HC haven't been impressive at all. He failed to improve the D on either team.

So if he as HC hired mediocre coaches on the defensive staff, what makes anyone here happy hed hire the defensive staff if he was DC? He obviously doesnt have a good eye for coaching talent even on his side of the ball

I’m trying to figure out how Franks is a good fit for Leach’s system. Franks was good at running but struggled mightily with accuracy and decision making in the games that I saw.

Franks was actually playing really well this season until he got hurt.

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Originally Posted by AlSwearengen

I’m trying to figure out how Franks is a good fit for Leach’s system. Franks was good at running but struggled mightily with accuracy and decision making in the games that I saw.

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? Franks is much more of a passer than a runner. He was never a good fit in Mullen's offense.