Is he really wanting out that bad? Not doubting what you’ve heard, I’m legitimately asking. Even if the Rutgers job goes to Schiano and it’s not available, is it still thought that he’s looking to get out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
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Is he really wanting out that bad? Not doubting what you’ve heard, I’m legitimately asking. Even if the Rutgers job goes to Schiano and it’s not available, is it still thought that he’s looking to get out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
I think he will be here as long as we keep him. You don’t leave the golden goose behind unless a bigger golden goose comes along. I just think the SEC is a very humbling place to coach and can be eye opening if you aren’t prepared to be a head coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
He's been mentioned as a top target in articles about Boston College and Illinois too. His offense doesn't work against SEC defenses unless you have NFL level talent at QB, RB and WR. He got a very rude awakening last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
I don't see Moorhead leaving unless he takes another P5 job that maybe is a better fit like Rutgers or BC. The only other way he is leaving is if he ends up 4-8 and Cohen is forced to go in a different direction. If you start hearing his name associated with more than Rutgers then it is probably his agent looking for a landing spot for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
It's not a terrible source, LOL. We would owe him what is left on his contract. The only way he leaves is if he leaves on his own and everything that has been said about THAT is strictly rumor with zero basis in fact as of this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
I just don't understand what anyone could see in him at this point that would make him a desirable hire. There are almost no positives!Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Honestly, his system worked well at Fordham and Penn St so if someone thought the situation was similar then he might be a good choice. I think the biggest issue is that in the SEC, you have LBs run like safeties and DT run like LBs. That is affecting how much reaction time that a QB has to make a decision. That is why you don't see a system like this in the NFL. NFL defenses are too fast for a QB to make that many decisions on just the hand off.Quote:
Originally Posted by PMDawg
No. We definitely would not have to buyout his contract. Your source is just plain incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
His source is probably Larry Templeton. “Be patient. Look at who we have lost to.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
It just isn’t a fit for either one of us. I imagine Joe isn’t happy with his daughter crying and he’s obviously very sensitive. I know if I was in the same situation I would want out.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
One of the reasons why I want him to go 6-6 and go. It looks less suspicious. That said I could see this being like Sonny Dykes at Cal-Berkeley who also wasn’t a fit there but has had a lot of success in the South. Different regions but same idea as far as fitting in. I do think Joe is a good coach honestly. But his personality isn’t working here on many levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
It wouldn't surprise me for some teams to look at what he did at Fordham/Penn State and then look at what he's done here and say "Well he's been successful everywhere else except for at poor ol' Mittittippi Tate, it's just them, it ain't Joe". That would be a reason I could see some teams go after him despite him underachieving in his time here. The outside world still thinks of us as poor ol' MSU despite us raising our level of success the last decade & going to 9 straight bowl games and I could see it being played off as "Well it was just an MSU thing" and someone take a shot at him based on his time at Fordham and Penn State.
He wasn’t successful at UConn.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
95th nationally in total offense in 2010 at UConn as OC. He lost OC title in 2011, qb coach. Coincidentally, we're 94th in total offense this season. Joe is consistent, I supposeQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
And not many people remember him for his time at UCONN obviously. That’s what I’m getting at. People remember him mainly from his time at Penn State and I could see people discounting his underachieving here and saying that “it’s just a Mississippi state problem, not a Joe Moorhead problem” just because of his time at PSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I think Joe is realizing his system is much more Northeast friendly. Lots of man coverage and less decision-making time is making it tough to run south of the Mason-DixonQuote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
I agree on that. I’ve been reading the board for a while now and know that you’re knowledgeable about football and if I remember correctly you’re pretty well connected as far as knowing things within the program (sorry if I have that wrong as I’m not on here just a ton but have read on and off). What’s your take on whether Joe is back next year & is he legitimately looking to leave on his own accord or is he staying unless he’s let go? I’ve seen both takes as far as he wants to leave and is looking to mutually part ways or he’s staying and it’d take going 4-8 for him to be let go. I really hope he figures it out because I like him but there’s nothing really to go off of to have hope that happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
From my talks with people in Starkville:
Joe had an eye-opening year last year- but convinced himself it was a QB problem. K-State and since has shown him its not just the QB. Told his agent to get his ass out of the South. Agent is pumping him for every job possible.
4-8 and I dont see him back. But we have a game tomorrow and all kinds of shit can happen. People are preparing for worst case scenario but we still have to be in wait-and-see mode
Why? Is it because a different style of football is played in the northeast, or is it because southern players are inherently less intelligent?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I don’t think we are less intelligent. I think he facing some of the best DC and athletes in the country in this league. He is seeing more man coverages and aggressive grown men DL that blow plays up.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
Because in the Northeast its more of a battle of wits with different coverages and match-ups- and the talent levels arent that different.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
In the South- where you have a plethera of great athletes but different levels of skills- its alot more man coverage used and less strategy. It's simply- can you beat this man or not? Southern Defenses are limiting JoVester's offense because of all the man coverage and forcing quicker QB decisions than what the offense wants. Thats why we have 20 sacks in 7 games- dont have the time to make the reads.
D-Line Heaven in the South. You dont get much time to make multi-level reads- which is what JoVester coaches. 20 sacks in 7 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?