What is the Athletic Department Going to Do To Get this Program Back on Track?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Please explain

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When the conference consolidation began there was a big push to leave the NCAA from schools that were a part of the College Football Association, the CFA was put together by the larger schools I believe there were 63 or 64 teams involved. This group was put together to negotiate TV contracts. There was a big push to leave the NCAA due to the the belief among this group at the time the DII and DII teams were holding the bigger schools back and the bigger schools couldn't maximize revenue. The idea of using the CFA as the governing body and setting up their own association with its own rules and revenue sharing was proposed. ND and the Big ten schools balked in order to explore setting up their own TV deals and the CFA fell apart in 1997.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Why pay college players to play ball and get an education. The NFL can pick up the ticket for a minor league for football and kids that belong in college classrooms can play college football. That solves the different classification deal and paying players all in one move.

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Oh we are headed that way. It's why we need to change the system now. Ca, Co, Wa, Md and more have either passed or moved to pass laws that allow college players to hire agents and profit off of their likeness.

That means the University either breaks the law and suffers from that or get slapped by the NCAA. RIght now, we have until 2023 to solve all the issues.

If we DON'T changed it, it will mean MORE of the top talent will go where they can actually market themselves. We would not have gotten Chris Jones, Simmons.... etc. Those few 3 stars that bama gets.... they will turn into 4 stars because of market value.

WHICH is another reason to cap the Roster at about 65-70.

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Originally Posted by TUSK

All of the above posts are accurate, for the most part... We just cull out the "haves"... Say the top 25 teams based on value, success, attendance, etc...

The remaining programs could set up their own network, officiating system, scholarship limitations, etc...

The new (25 team) league could take a percentage of their increase in revenue and kick it down to help subsidize the other programs.

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You can't unless the Gov changes Title iX

Simply, our fans have to want it more than other schools if MSU ever wants to sniff Atlanta. We are operating at a disadvantage from a population standpoint and sharing the state with another SEC school. We were 2-0 going into a game against a Power 5 opponent and we already had fans complaining about style points and heat. I agree that Mullen was good at telling people big wins don't happen before fans fill the stadium. Well we probably need to amend the message that big wins don't keep occurring without fans filling the stadium for every game. If fans are going to make excuses for not showing up then we have already lost any chance at elevating the program.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Why pay college players to play ball and get an education. The NFL can pick up the ticket for a minor league for football and kids that belong in college classrooms can play college football. That solves the different classification deal and paying players all in one move.

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Speaking of killing off college football, this'll do it of insurance and lawsuits don't get to it first.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

No it's not.

It's a pipedream that lacks an understanding of the unintended consequences.

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Yeah, tbh the ~25 programs that'd split off from the rest of P5 would be cutting their nose off to spite their face imo. If MSU gets left behind, not a chance in hell I give a shit about watching bama and Clemson and LSU play random games on a Saturday in September or october anymore.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

When the conference consolidation began there was a big push to leave the NCAA from schools that were a part of the College Football Association, the CFA was put together by the larger schools I believe there were 63 or 64 teams involved. This group was put together to negotiate TV contracts. There was a big push to leave the NCAA due to the the belief among this group at the time the DII and DII teams were holding the bigger schools back and the bigger schools couldn't maximize revenue. The idea of using the CFA as the governing body and setting up their own association with its own rules and revenue sharing was proposed. ND and the Big ten schools balked in order to explore setting up their own TV deals and the CFA fell apart in 1997.

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There's a huge difference betwee ln all the P5 programs breaking off together and 20-30 programs self-selecting who breaks off from the rest of P5 (thru only the least shady means as programs jockey for those final slots I'm sure). All the P5 programs moving to their own division together works because rivalries are maintained, provides diversity of the fan base, conferences continuity, etc. moving to a 20-30 team conference of "elites" pretty much turns CFB into a niche regional sport that basically covers the southeast, southern plains states (Texas, Oklahoma), and the traditional big 10 country (not Maryland and New Jersey). That's leaving a lot of fans jaded and spurned all over the country that aren't gonna return to watch the "elite" programs 1000 miles away play.

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Originally Posted by dawgs

There's a huge difference betwee ln all the P5 programs breaking off together and 20-30 programs self-selecting who breaks off from the rest of P5 (thru only the least shady means as programs jockey for those final slots I'm sure). All the P5 programs moving to their own division together works because rivalries are maintained, provides diversity of the fan base, conferences continuity, etc. moving to a 20-30 team conference of "elites" pretty much turns CFB into a niche regional sport that basically covers the southeast, southern plains states (Texas, Oklahoma), and the traditional big 10 country (not Maryland and New Jersey). That's leaving a lot of fans jaded and spurned all over the country that aren't gonna return to watch the "elite" programs 1000 miles away play.

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I understand what your saying and from a fans point of view that makes sense. But this move will be about eyeballs on TV period. MSU doesn't move the needle on TV nor do 75% of the rest to the casual fan. Think the folks who support LSU and Bammer and TX and OK, they have no allegiance to a school per say the just follow because they win. That's the audience. It may not be as small as 15 to 25 maybe as large as 45 or 50 and the fight for those final spots would be dramatic to say the least.

It?s time to purge some of these troll accounts.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Why pay college players to play ball and get an education. The NFL can pick up the ticket for a minor league for football and kids that belong in college classrooms can play college football. That solves the different classification deal and paying players all in one move.

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Agreed, college/university sports should model more like Division II and III and get away from the big money.