Quick Thoughts - JOMO Has To Go

Where are the SOB?s that we?re in here arguing with some of us this week about this bunch going 11-1!? Told you Fsticks that we had major problems at DT and we weren?t great. In the fourth qtr, K St came out on first down to start back to back drives by running right at us for 9 yards a pop. They were more physical and wanted this game more than our guys. They did all they could do to give us a chance with muffed punt and barely late hit. Even with that, we couldn?t take the game.

Late in the game we have 3rd down and 2 with a true freshman QB deep in our own territory. We have a work horse at running back. Do we run our best player? No! We try to throw the damn ball.

MSU has never been and will never be a pass oriented finesse program. We are a hard nosed, blue collar running program. Jackie knew it and Mullen knew it. Mullen gave us the blueprint to win at MSU. Cohen went a different direction and it doesn?t and won?t work.

Mulehead is the wrong guy for the job. He isn?t going to get it done. I wish it wasn?t that way but it is. That?s not being negative, it?s being realistic based on his history to this point.

I guess I'm convinced that we will never have a successful football coach that's a "nice guy". Love Joe to death as a person but he has no real edge to him and I think his team reflects that. In my lifetime all our best coaches have had a little bit of A-hole to them. Whether it was Mullen, Sherrill or Tyler, they could all be complete jerks when it was called for. On the other hand, guys like Felker and Croom, that everyone loved as people, were complete flops. While I certainly think Moorhead is a cut above those 2 in the coaching department, I'm not sure he has enough fire in him to get out of our players what it will take to compete at a high level in the SEC. I'm ready to see that pissed off JoMo I saw at the end of the Egg Bowl last year but have that ire directed at some of our players that deserve it.

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Originally Posted by Brahmabull

Where are the SOB’s that we’re in here arguing with some of us this week about this bunch going 11-1!? Told you Fsticks that we had major problems at DT and we weren’t great. In the fourth qtr, K St came out on first down to start back to back drives by running right at us for 9 yards a pop. They were more physical and wanted this game more than our guys. They did all they could do to give us a chance with muffed punt and barely late hit. Even with that, we couldn’t take the game.

Mulehead is the wrong guy for the job. He isn’t going to get it done. I wish it wasn’t that way but it is. That’s not being negative, it’s being realistic based on his history to this point.

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Idiotic take. K State had a total of 269 yard of offense. The defense played well enough to win. Turnovers an special teams were the difference. That and having literally no home field advantage. We might as well have played this game on South Farm and not alerted the public.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Moorhead will be the best thing Ms ST has seen.

PERIOD.

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I?m convinced now that you?re a troll.

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Idiotic take. K State had a total of 269 yard of offense. The defense played well enough to win. Turnovers an special teams were the difference. That and having literally no home field advantage. We might as well have played this game on South Farm and not alerted the public.

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And if we had a starting QB that was 100% healthy. He missed two wide open passes that he would have completed in the first two games. He completes those and we are deep in the red zone both times.

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

Bottom line is that we were out-coached and out-played. Kansas State dominated both lines of scrimmage.

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yep

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Idiotic take. K State had a total of 269 yard of offense. The defense played well enough to win. Turnovers an special teams were the difference. That and having literally no home field advantage. We might as well have played this game on South Farm and not alerted the public.

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The point wasn’t that the defense didn’t do well enough for us to win. It was to give examples of how they were able to come out and punch us in the mouth when they needed to start drives late in the game. That wasn’t a top half SEC team today. That team is middle of the pack big 12. Their running backs couldn’t play over our two. They have half the talent we have. We are soft defensively.

We lost because they controlled the line of scrimmage. Our turnovers and piss poor special steams just offset theirs.

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

I will only add this, this is his 4th loss in very winnable games. Kentucky, florida, iowa, now this. I believe we were favored in all 4. Each was close, and each time we got outcoached. However you feel about things, that is just a really bad sign. Auburn and A&M go in the plus column. So 2-4

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Pretty sure that Mullen only lost 4 games as the favorite in his entire 9 years in Starkville.....maybe 5. So 4-5 out of 115 games....Moorhead is at 4 out of 16.

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Originally Posted by msu15

Maybe we should have hired Hud

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I don't know how it would've worked out long term, but I'd bet a lot of money that he would've won at least 10 games last year.

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

Also Penn State?s offense isn?t really any good either. Saquon Barkley is extending some coaching careers

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It's a slow, complicated offense that isn't a run and shoot and it isn't a power offense.

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Originally Posted by Brahmabull

The point wasn’t that the defense didn’t do well enough for us to win. It was to give examples of how they were able to come out and punch us in the mouth when they needed to start drives late in the game. That wasn’t a top half SEC team today. That team is middle of the pack big 12. Their running backs couldn’t play over our two. They have half the talent we have. We are soft defensively.

We lost because they controlled the line of scrimmage. Our turnovers and piss poor special steams just offset theirs.

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We were better in every statistic including rushing yards and yards per carry. Keep believing what you want.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'm completely done with JoMo.

His teams are football stupid. He isn't good enough to coach at MSU

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So that means you are going to quit following the football team while he is the head coach?
Some of us might be ok with that...

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I've known joe sucks for a long time, but I'll wait for jarius, gutter, dancing rabbit, met, Rez, and coach007 to tell me why I'm wrong.

BTW, let me be first to predict Kansas st wins the big12... we've predicted ULL and usm to win theirs after playing us well (spit!!!)

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You were right and I was wrong. Fire his ass. I'm out.

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Originally Posted by Negative Waves

1998. State walked into Stillwater and got blown out by a 5-6 Oklahoma State team. That team ended up in Atlanta. The SEC West is completely different now and we?re definitely not winning the West this year, but I still thinks it?s a tad overblown to call for Joe?s head after one loss. Joe?s teams remind me of Jackie?s. We lost one today we should?ve won, and we?ll probably beat somebody later this season we shouldn?t. I?ll say this, If he goes 4-8 this season, his seat should be getting very warm.

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Open your eyes.


The dense kept the tea in the game last year and that?s gone this year.

The team lacks classic MSU toughness and Joe isn?t going to bring that like Dan dis.

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

We were better in every statistic including rushing yards and yards per carry. Keep believing what you want.

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Like you said...we had more yards, more first downs, more rushing yards..everything but points. This coach and his staff aren’t cut out for the SEC.

It seems like some or maybe a good many of our players were more focused on jawing back and forth with the KSU players than getting their mind in the actual game. I think the KSU players got in some of their heads (undisciplined). Now that is a coaching issue that should have been addressed, ST was crap, but some of it was lack of coaching, and then some of the blame can go to the ones who were suspended. Why we couldn't finally adjust to their punt rush, I don't know. Tucker got gun shy. However, just because one poster on a MSU message board starts another one of his threads, and this one on firing JoeMO this season, doesn't mean crap. He ain't gonna be fired this year, unless some unforeseen circumstances happen to justify it (that ain't losing to KSU). JoeMo does need to get this turned around though, and I initially thought Jones was a good hire as ST Coach. He talks a good talk, but that seems to be about it.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I've known joe sucks for a long time, but I'll wait for jarius, gutter, dancing rabbit, met, Rez, and coach007 to tell me why I'm wrong.

BTW, let me be first to predict Kansas st wins the big12... we've predicted ULL and usm to win theirs after playing us well (spit!!!)

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We played terrible today and Joe is certainly losing my support. As terrible as your predictions have been about every team you should probably shut the **** up.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

We played terrible today and Joe is certainly losing my support. As terrible as your predictions have been about every team you should probably shut the **** up.

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Bump my bad predictions.

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

So that means you are going to quit following the football team while he is the head coach?
Some of us might be ok with that...

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We can't be that lucky. Probably just means more threads on what we should do and not do from recruiting, to coaching to facilities, etc. (Wash, rinse and repeat). :(