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07-31-2019, 03:10 PM
Pipedream

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

But why do you think that? Is it because Shoop came in and fixed the back end of our defense and improved it to #1? Where in the last 20 years have we beaten those type of teams? Even in 2014 with our run to #1, Auburn, LSU, and A&M did not finish the season ranked as high as UK last year. Everyone can't get over UK but that was a really good team. If you replace the name UK with Auburn then most people are ok with it.

UF is a sore spot because it is Mullen. 1) UF was at least as talented but probably more talented top to bottom. 2) Mullen knew Fitz's strengths and weaknesses better than Joe.
Even then if Mitchell catches that TD pass to take the lead, we have a great shot at winning that game.

Iowa - I will give you that one. Guidry turns a winning TD into a losing Int. Abram gets caught looking in the backfield for the first time all year. Those 2 plays lost that game. Sometimes the ball bounces your way and sometimes it doesn't.

He doesn't share a unique opinion. Vegas had us favored in all 3 of those games.
07-31-2019, 04:53 PM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

I didn't think 10-2 would get a ring. Sorry you can't see Joe crapped away 2 extremely winnable regular season games with his hardheaded approach. We had a better roster than 11 teams we played last year.

Is joe Moorhead the only coach to loose a game that he should have won? I guess you guys wouldn't have been satisfied unless we hired Saban.
07-31-2019, 05:00 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Is joe Moorhead the only coach to loose a game that he should have won? I guess you guys wouldn't have been satisfied unless we hired Saban.

No it happens. But preferably not 3 times in a year and lose another one that the other team was held at bay by our defense and we literally had no shot...... no point discussing bama.... I haven't given up on JM, however, last year was on him. Period.
07-31-2019, 05:42 PM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

No it happens. But preferably not 3 times in a year and lose another one that the other team was held at bay by our defense and we literally had no shot...... no point discussing bama.... I haven't given up on JM, however, last year was on him. Period.

Yeah, Fitz was extremely accurate and made great reads***
07-31-2019, 05:45 PM
msstate7

The buck stops with... fitz
07-31-2019, 05:45 PM
PMDawg

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Originally Posted by Pipedream

He doesn't share a unique opinion. Vegas had us favored in all 3 of those games.

As did FPI, SP, etc.
07-31-2019, 05:51 PM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by msstate7

The buck stops with... fitz

Fire Moorhead
07-31-2019, 05:51 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Yeah, Fitz was extremely accurate and made great reads***

Well quit making him do that every play then if he sucks at it.!!!!! Thanks for making my point.
07-31-2019, 05:52 PM
RezDog7

Do you morons understand how stupid you sound.

Oh my god, the most talent in history of football and we only win 8 games.

Good grief. That season is over, mine the **** on.
07-31-2019, 05:55 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Yeah, Fitz was extremely accurate and made great reads***

Joe was great you win.... so when the players suck it's their fault and when they are good it's his credit? Players play the game, yes. But coaching matters. Put them in the best position to be successful. And if 7, 6,6, and 0 is the best we can do in 4 losses then he has to take a lot of the blame.
07-31-2019, 06:00 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Joe was great you win.... so when the players suck it's their fault and when they are good it's his credit? Players play the game, yes. But coaching matters. Put them in the best position to be successful. And if 7, 6,6, and 0 is the best we can do in 4 losses then he has to take a lot of the blame.

JOE set scoring record in game 1 or whatever
Fitz/Eiland lost to Kentucky
Mitchell lost to Florida
JOE beat auburn
JOE beat jimbo
Fitz lost to LSU
JOE whipped OM
Guidry lost to Iowa
07-31-2019, 06:07 PM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Joe was great you win.... so when the players suck it's their fault and when they are good it's his credit? Players play the game, yes. But coaching matters. Put them in the best position to be successful. And if 7, 6,6, and 0 is the best we can do in 4 losses then he has to take a lot of the blame.

I never said Joe was great nor do I believe it was all on fitz. Why can't it be both. We were all disappointed, but I've been disappointed after every MSU sports season since I've been alive (no championship). As great as the baseball season was, I'm disappointed we didn't win it all. Same with women's basketball. Until you win it all, there will always be "what if's". But all this dogging moorehead after one season and an 8-4 season is ridiculous. He appears to working to fix things that went wrong last year. Stop rehashing last season, it's over.
07-31-2019, 06:09 PM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by msstate7

JOE set scoring record in game 1 or whatever
Fitz/Eiland lost to Kentucky
Mitchell lost to Florida
JOE beat auburn
JOE beat jimbo
Fitz lost to LSU
JOE whipped OM
Guidry lost to Iowa

Sure thing hoss
07-31-2019, 06:22 PM
DancingRabbit

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