2019 Football Concerns

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07-12-2019, 04:10 PM
msstate7

I will say Moorhead had a great transfer-recruiting season. I'm excited to see Stevens run this offense. Nothing would make me happier than eating some crow this fall
07-12-2019, 04:14 PM
msstate7

I don't expect ULL to challenge us that much, but I do think it's a decent test for our interior DLine. ULL was 22nd nationally in rushing, and they return top 3 rushers: 1181 yd rusher, 977 yd rusher, and a 754 yd rusher. They have 5 RS seniors as starting oline
07-12-2019, 04:31 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Coach007

If he is as good as the 18 year veteran NFL scout says, then Bama is competitive at home!

You are going to be in for a long long season your expectations are way out there.
07-12-2019, 05:11 PM
Goldendawg

Some of you guys willing to accept 6 wins as the floor do realize that is beating 4 OOC cupcakes and going 2-6 in the SEC? 2-6, with our talent and the joke schedules OOC today, most any SEC coach should hit that unacceptable floor at MSU today. Anyone who can't, should see the door. Hail State!
07-12-2019, 05:15 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

You are going to be in for a long long season your expectations are way out there.

Cmon mane- we loaded in 2019. We got an awesome QB, loaded at TB and OL, better at WR, DL will be as good, LB's are better, Secondary better, easy schedule. 10 wins coming Mane!!!!!! Watch out Bammer!!! We Believe!!
07-12-2019, 05:19 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Hello guys- just stopping by to talk some ball and deliver my football concerns heading into this CFB season:

1. The DT position. We are going to have a significant drop at this position in 2019. We lost the best pass-rushing DT in all of college football in Simmons- along with 2 very good DT's in Hoyett and Thomas. I think our talent here will be ok- but the lack of experience in 2019 and talent drop makes this the top concern of 2019.

2. QB pressure- we were 12th in the country in 2018 in sacks at 39. We lost Simmons, Sweat, and Green- who were the major forces in those numbers. I'll be shocked if we reach 25 in 2019. That puts alot more pressure on the LB's and Secondary as well as makes some play-calling easier for our opponents.

3. Every Play is an RPO- the SEC is the premier league in the country on defense. It's D-Line heaven. You have to adjust your offense to combat SEC defenses because of the excess athletes and the commitment of SEC DC's to play man coverage. Today's response to the RPO is to play man coverage and force the QB to run the ball. That wont change in 2019. The Big Ten didnt exactly play D that way- neither does the Pac-12. The SEC dont play. I'm curious to see if JoMo adapts or does he continue to let Tommy get about 185 carries in 2019. Something to watch fo sho.

4. How does the Secondary perform? The pass rush wont be close to last season. We lost our Safeties and CB's. How does the new Secondary perform with half the pass rush in 2019?

5. Should be a very good OL in 2019. Experience and depth. Should be a good run-blocking crew. Do we rely on that strength?

6. We have 2 TB's. Can Hill and Gibson stay healthy and handle the load? Defenses will force alot of Tommy carries- but if JoVester adapts and hands the ball off- can they handle the load?

7. Will the WR's be better in 2019? They have been shitty. Can they catch the Tommy fastball or will this year just be more of the same? Athletes that remain inconsistent?

8. Will the team unite behind Tommy or will we have a divided lockerroom like we did in 2016? That makes a big difference and the longer it drags- the more it hurts your season.

9. We play at Auburn and at A&M- those teams will be hard to beat on the road. As will Tennessee in year 2 with their new coach. Kentucky is solid and could win 8 games. LSU is damn good. Our schedule aint as damn easy as some people try to say. Add in K-State playing against an inexperienced State QB

Just some searing questions for our team heading into 2019....I'm excited about this Fall because it will answer alot of questions about our HC hire. He will have had 2 years with the most talent he will have had during his time at State. If he cant get it done with these 2 teams- its not going to get any better in his time in Sville. 2019 will be very exciting. HailState

LOL.
07-12-2019, 05:22 PM
Goldendawg

I hope they come in with chips on their shoulders and get it done against SEC defenses, but a lot of hope is being put on transfers that didn't start in another league or had poor receiving stats against Top 100 pass defenses. I hope to be shown that I am wrong. Hail State!
07-12-2019, 10:36 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Some of you guys willing to accept 6 wins as the floor do realize that is beating 4 OOC cupcakes and going 2-6 in the SEC? 2-6, with our talent and the joke schedules OOC today, most any SEC coach should hit that unacceptable floor at MSU today. Anyone who can't, should see the door. Hail State!

We are 3 years from 5 regular season wins.
07-12-2019, 11:00 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Jarius

LSU will never be more than pretty good with Ed as a head coach and they will never be a sure loss as long as he is their coach.

Disagree here because they will be very hard to score on. They don't need much offense to win 8-9 games every season.
07-12-2019, 11:05 PM
Covercorner2

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Cmon mane- we loaded in 2019. We got an awesome QB, loaded at TB and OL, better at WR, DL will be as good, LB's are better, Secondary better, easy schedule. 10 wins coming Mane!!!!!! Watch out Bammer!!! We Believe!!

So what?s your win prediction?

Let?s here it big dawg...
07-12-2019, 11:11 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Disagree here because they will be very hard to score on. They don't need much offense to win 8-9 games every season.

Winning 8-9 games is not better than just pretty good.....
07-12-2019, 11:23 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Winning 8-9 games is not better than just pretty good.....

They schedule a good OOC team every year and have Florida as a permanent opponent. 8-9 wins for them is harder than 8-9 wins for us. With that said, they needs to be at 10-11 win mark with their built in advantages
07-12-2019, 11:40 PM
Covercorner2

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Originally Posted by Covercorner2

So what?s your win prediction?

Let?s here it big dawg...

By the way, I haven?t seen a single person in this thread predicting 10 wins, but whatever fits the narrative big guy...
07-13-2019, 02:18 AM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by msstate7

They schedule a good OOC team every year and have Florida as a permanent opponent. 8-9 wins for them is harder than 8-9 wins for us. With that said, they needs to be at 10-11 win mark with their built in advantages

They have not scheduled a good OOC opponent since Ed has been there. Miami went 7-6 last year and Syracuse went 3-9 the year before. Texas will be ok this year but nothing special. Better than Kansas State I would imagine, but you never know from year to year with Texas. Florida was not any better than Kentucky last year or the year prior, but that is usually the case. During Ed's time at LSU their schedule has not been any more difficult than ours outside of the Georgia game they played last year. They played Georgia while we played top 15 Kentucky and that was the difference in schedules. Not that big of a difference in SOS there.

Going forward, they will probably have a tougher schedule because Kentucky and Florida will go back to their averages more than likely. My point is that 8 or 9 wins is not more than pretty good. There are a group of teams that do that in the conference every year and it is nothing special.
07-13-2019, 09:16 AM
BrunswickDawg

I don't think the list of concerns is that out of whack - as always with 34, it's all about how he frames the information so he can drive discussion. Some of those things show how little people look at certain numbers and trends.

A good example is his statement about Joe running his QB 185 times and framing that as some sort of outlier or indicator of how Joe's offense is designed to run. Between Fordham and PSU, Moorhead's starting QBs eclipsed 160 rushing attempts in a season in only 2012. Meanwhile, Dan Mullen's QBs eclipsed that mark 5 times in 9 seasons with a high of 210 by Dak in 2014. We ran our QB so much because he was our best running threat - it's that simple.

Was that the best strategy? Should the RBs run more? Maybe, maybe not. But it sure wasn't any different than how Mullen handled a number of seasons. However, it was very different than how Moorhead had handled his offenses at Fordham and PSU. When you have the best running QB in SEC history, it kind of makes sense that he - you know - runs with the football.
07-13-2019, 09:29 AM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Jarius

They have not scheduled a good OOC opponent since Ed has been there.

Well they weren't as good after LSU no doubt. LSU will also smash Texas in the mouth. As far a defensive talent they are 1b to Bama only on the regular.
07-13-2019, 01:24 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

I don't think the list of concerns is that out of whack - as always with 34, it's all about how he frames the information so he can drive discussion. Some of those things show how little people look at certain numbers and trends.

A good example is his statement about Joe running his QB 185 times and framing that as some sort of outlier or indicator of how Joe's offense is designed to run. Between Fordham and PSU, Moorhead's starting QBs eclipsed 160 rushing attempts in a season in only 2012. Meanwhile, Dan Mullen's QBs eclipsed that mark 5 times in 9 seasons with a high of 210 by Dak in 2014. We ran our QB so much because he was our best running threat - it's that simple.

Was that the best strategy? Should the RBs run more? Maybe, maybe not. But it sure wasn't any different than how Mullen handled a number of seasons. However, it was very different than how Moorhead had handled his offenses at Fordham and PSU. When you have the best running QB in SEC history, it kind of makes sense that he - you know - runs with the football.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/ytTYw...&rid=200w.webp

And keep in mind that that's not 185 designed QB runs. It's the reads and if the QB made the right read.
07-13-2019, 01:25 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Well they weren't as good after LSU no doubt. LSU will also smash Texas in the mouth. As far a defensive talent they are 1b to Bama only on the regular.

I think the boys at Ms ST would disagree with that in this modern era....
07-13-2019, 04:01 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Covercorner2

So what?s your win prediction?

Let?s here it big dawg...

7-5 with a win over OM in the Egg is most likely- an 8th win is possible at Tenn. Big toss-up game there.

Williams, Rivers get drafted along with Gay, Thompson, Hill, and Dantzler declaring early for the draft.

2020 becomes the major rebuild after another year of losing a ton of talent, starters, and draft picks.
07-13-2019, 04:55 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Well they weren't as good after LSU no doubt. LSU will also smash Texas in the mouth. As far a defensive talent they are 1b to Bama only on the regular.

No, they just were not any good. LSU does have a lot of defensive talent. They also have a shitty offense every year which is why they aren’t ever going To be more than pretty good under This regime.

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