Nick has had some red flags

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Originally Posted by mstatefan91

I don’t remember this at all. I remember Williams getting very upset about it but I don’t remember Fitz saying a word. I could be damn wrong though. Just stating it how I remember.

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Yea, I remember Williams taking it personally and making a scene about it.....but I don't remember Fitz being involved.

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Originally Posted by Dolphus Raymond

This entire issue is being blown out of proportion.

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^This is by far the best post to date about the whole situation

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

He did exactly what he should have done. You play by the rules, no matter who you are. THE quickest way to lose a team is not to do that.

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This exactly. I would be extremely worried about our future had JoMO not handled this exactly like he did.

Y'all have got to remember JoMo is not some feelingless hard a$$. He has a softer approach but leaves no doubt that he is in charge.

On a similar note, it would behoove Fitz to delete his Snapchat or at a minimum only post things on there that he wants scouts to see. He doesn’t do anything that other college kids don’t do, but with failed piss tests it now makes him look like a party animal every time he’s at a music fest drinking beer on there.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

The Mohawk drama just showed what kind of man he was in my opinion. And I hope that changes. Even if this is for a failed drug test, I would see the Mohawk deal as a bigger blow. We all make mistakes and make poor decisions, but being a liar is uncalled for. I don?t care how tough you are, if your word won?t hold water, then you ain?t much.

And I would tell him that to his face if had the chance. This is the problem with America today. Parents letting crap like this slide because it doesn?t bother them or not that big of a deal. My dad would have beat me senseless for ever not doing what I said I would do or not finishing what I had started.

Maybe it would be good for Fitz to know that we as fans think it is real chicken**** to do what he did there. I help pay for the uniform he wears and so it matters to me what kind of leaders we have wearing it.

You want to be the face of a program, act like it.

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Relax, Damien. It seems like that San Marcos heat is getting to you a bit.

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

Yea, I remember Williams taking it personally and making a scene about it.....but I don't remember Fitz being involved.

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Y’all have selective memory. Ask someone with knowledge who the ringleaders were and after they tell you Damian, Fitz, and Dedrick Thomas get back to me.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

On a similar note, it would behoove Fitz to delete his Snapchat or at a minimum only post things on there that he wants scouts to see. He doesn’t do anything that other college kids don’t do, but with failed piss tests it now makes him look like a party animal every time he’s at a music fest drinking beer on there.

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Thank you. He’s our Bo Wallace. Folks on here acting like he’s infallable and above reproach is ridiculous. You can both like Fitz AND have some legitimate concerns. Fitz isn’t doing anything a normal college kid does but he’s not a normal college kid. He’s the fave of a university. Is it fair? Maybe not but if you sign up to play QB in the SEC you know everything that comes with that. Since Fitz is a Mullen signee let’s do an excercise to make a point. Rank these QBs solely on how they represented MSU off the field: Tyson Lee, Chris Relf, Tyler Russell, Dak Prescott, Nick Fitzgerald.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Here's the thing I don't get. Fitz gets suspended a game and now NFL GM's are going to question him. Baker Mayfield loses his cool and flips off players from KANSAS and it's all good.

Dak gets a bogus DUI and of course drops to what? Second or third round. Those idiots at Ole Miss are jumping out of windows strung out on LSD, posting bong gas mask pictures, and know two pass routes- first round picks! WTF?

Why do our players like Simmons get slammed and others don't?

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Dak wasn't ever going to go higher than the second or third round. Just some poor evaluations and the Tim Tebow affect hanging over him. It had very little to do with a DUI.

OM's guys went in the 1st round because they were considered top level NFL talent, plain and simple. Dak wasn't considered one of those guys. He lacked the physically elite arm tools that teams look for in a 1st round QB.

Fitz is still a kid/young man. Most college age males make mistakes/most don't live under a microscope. In the big scheme of things what he has done has been fairly insignificant.
The team respects him because he is tough as nails and is driven to win on the football field. They could care less how he acts off the field relatively speaking.

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Originally Posted by mstatefan91

A red flag, for those of you who didn?t know, is a signal of danger, of more to come.

This seems like a boneheaded incident. You guys sound silly calling it a red flag.

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You've been here long enough to know that there have been rumors surrounding Fitz since he stepped on campus. Not sure of the validity of them at the time, so simply sticking with the present suspension (regardless of reason) - it was a boneheaded decision (whatever it was).

To summarize my thoughts based on other threads on this topic:

Will it effect attendance - No (very stupid to even think it would)
Will it hurt our chances of winning against SFA - No
Will it effect our chances against KSU - No
Do I trust Moorhead handled it properly - Yes
Was it a wake-up call for Fitz - Hopefully (college kids will be college kids, but the hope is the maturity level increases as each year passes).

The thing that concerns me after reading all these posts is to hear the KT has fallen well behind Fitz in the QB race. Not that there was really any doubt, but you'd like to hear that KT is close. I think he throws a better ball and ultimately has the skill set to outpace both Dak and Fitz.

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

You've been here long enough to know that there have been rumors surrounding Fitz since he stepped on campus. Not sure of the validity of them at the time, so simply sticking with the present suspension (regardless of reason) - it was a boneheaded decision (whatever it was).

To summarize my thoughts based on other threads on this topic:

Will it effect attendance - No (very stupid to even think it would)
Will it hurt our chances of winning against SFA - No
Will it effect our chances against KSU - No
Do I trust Moorhead handled it properly - Yes
Was it a wake-up call for Fitz - Hopefully (college kids will be college kids, but the hope is the maturity level increases as each year passes).

The thing that concerns me after reading all these posts is to hear the KT has fallen well behind Fitz in the QB race. Not that there was really any doubt, but you'd like to hear that KT is close. I think he throws a better ball and ultimately has the skill set to outpace both Dak and Fitz.

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There are rumors surrounding every QB that eventually becomes a starter on this campus.. Dak included..........................................


so I say that to say this.. so what?

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Thank you. He’s our Bo Wallace. Folks on here acting like he’s infallable and above reproach is ridiculous. You can both like Fitz AND have some legitimate concerns. Fitz isn’t doing anything a normal college kid does but he’s not a normal college kid. He’s the fave of a university. Is it fair? Maybe not but if you sign up to play QB in the SEC you know everything that comes with that. Since Fitz is a Mullen signee let’s do an excercise to make a point. Rank these QBs solely on how they represented MSU off the field: Tyson Lee, Chris Relf, Tyler Russell, Dak Prescott, Nick Fitzgerald.

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This is 17ing ridiculous. No, he has not been the most mature or straight laced kid since he's been on campus, but he's not a whiny bitch either. When Fitz leaves, he's still going to be beloved by MSU fans unless something really changes this year. There's not going to be a sigh of relief like a lot of UM fans had when Bo was gone and they could stop pretending that he wasn't a major douche bag even by UM standards.

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Thank you. He’s our Bo Wallace. Folks on here acting like he’s infallable and above reproach is ridiculous. You can both like Fitz AND have some legitimate concerns. Fitz isn’t doing anything a normal college kid does but he’s not a normal college kid. He’s the fave of a university. Is it fair? Maybe not but if you sign up to play QB in the SEC you know everything that comes with that. Since Fitz is a Mullen signee let’s do an excercise to make a point. Rank these QBs solely on how they represented MSU off the field: Tyson Lee, Chris Relf, Tyler Russell, Dak Prescott, Nick Fitzgerald.

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He's our what?

Let me explain how college football players average over 40 hours per week in football and how their bodies take a beating for a sport and school. Then they have to put in the time in the classroom. If a kid goes and smokes weed or drinks a beer, who cares? Hell, they probably need it if you want to know the truth. I've got kids playing college ball. One has to have regular medical care and pain management due to the wear and tear on their body. To them, it's worth it because of the work and time they've put in. Hell, I'll buy them a beer myself.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

This is 17ing ridiculous. No, he has not been the most mature or straight laced kid since he's been on campus, but he's not a whiny bitch either. When Fitz leaves, he's still going to be beloved by MSU fans unless something really changes this year. There's not going to be a sigh of relief like a lot of UM fans had when Bo was gone and they could stop pretending that he wasn't a major douche bag even by UM standards.

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Bo Wallace was a poor man’s Brett Favre. Gunslinger that played hard and partied hard. That’s the comparison. I don’t know how that comparison turned in to inferring Nick is a whiny bitch. Reread the last sentence of the op

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Let me explain how college football players average over 40 hours per week in football and how their bodies take a beating for a sport and school. Then they have to put in the time in the classroom. If a kid goes and smokes weed or drinks a beer, who cares? Hell, they probably need it if you want to know the truth. I've got kids playing college ball. One has to have regular medical care and pain management due to the wear and tear on their body. To them, it's worth it because of the work and time they've put in. Hell, I'll buy them a beer myself.

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The people evaluating him for the next level give a shit. It’s not going to matter st MSU, but if he wants to stop costing himself draft money, he should probably put on a better front.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Let me explain how college football players average over 40 hours per week in football and how their bodies take a beating for a sport and school. Then they have to put in the time in the classroom. If a kid goes and smokes weed or drinks a beer, who cares? Hell, they probably need it if you want to know the truth. I've got kids playing college ball. One has to have regular medical care and pain management due to the wear and tear on their body. To them, it's worth it because of the work and time they've put in. Hell, I'll buy them a beer myself.

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Reread the last paragraph of the op. I pretty much say everything you just said. No one is questioning the physical commitment these guys make. Nick is tough as nails.

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Thank you. He’s our Bo Wallace. Folks on here acting like he’s infallable and above reproach is ridiculous. You can both like Fitz AND have some legitimate concerns. Fitz isn’t doing anything a normal college kid does but he’s not a normal college kid. He’s the fave of a university. Is it fair? Maybe not but if you sign up to play QB in the SEC you know everything that comes with that. Since Fitz is a Mullen signee let’s do an excercise to make a point. Rank these QBs solely on how they represented MSU off the field: Tyson Lee, Chris Relf, Tyler Russell, Dak Prescott, Nick Fitzgerald.

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But no one said he was infallible and above reproach. Some people, myself included, feel like it was an immature move but not the biggest deal in the world in the grand scheme of things. It's really disappointing, but it's not a pattern as this thread suggests. It can hopefully be a lesson for him. I just don't think that a guy not getting a mowhawk and saying there is nothing to do in Starkville create a pattern of questionable behavior. That's really digging and performing some mental gymnastics to say a guy has some red flags.

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Originally Posted by Dawg2003

But no one said he was infallible and above reproach. Some people, myself included, feel like it was an immature move but not the biggest deal in the world in the grand scheme of things. It's really disappointing, but it's not a pattern as this thread suggests. It can hopefully be a lesson for him. I just don't think that a guy not getting a mowhawk and saying there is nothing to do in Starkville create a pattern of questionable behavior. That's really digging and performing some mental gymnastics to say a guy has some red flags.

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Good reasonable post. I just threw out a few things off the top of my head. There have been numerous things/rumors discussed about Fitz that never get discussed on message boards. Due to some of the things that have been rumored over the years I was absolutely NOT shocked by the announcement whereas if Tyler Russell would have been suspended I would have been floored. While you see mental gymnastics to make a connection, I see them in our base totally absolving him from any criticism. Ultimately we’ll kick off in a few days and we’ll actually have real football to talk about. I just hate he doesn’t get live game reps before a monster game at KSU. I might look like the bad guy right now for discussing it but can you imagine the negative meltdown on boards and social media if he struggles in Manhattan?

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The people evaluating him for the next level give a shit. It’s not going to matter st MSU, but if he wants to stop costing himself draft money, he should probably put on a better front.

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And that's his call. I'm not going to criticize him for that. He's got to live with that.

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Reread the last paragraph of the op. I pretty much say everything you just said. No one is questioning the physical commitment these guys make. Nick is tough as nails.

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And there's no point in bashing him. If he's drunk all time and constantly screwing up things, then I'm all in. But that's not what he is. He's a cocky kid that has a good time and busts his ass for State. People are trying to make it more than that. And it's pretty classless in many cases.