Lotta "Dan Mullen to Oregon" talk right now...

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12-05-2016, 08:09 PM
Bucky Dog

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Originally Posted by smootness

Shoot what down? Is he going to need to constantly shoot down every random blog rumor that our own fans then blow out of proportion?

If this stuff actually hurts our recruiting, then threads like this are far more to blame than Mullen not coming out publicly to turn down a job he was never offered.

THIS!!!!! Stop ****ing starting these stupid ass threads where rumor this and rumor that and some on here have to give their two cents! Why should he respond to every rumor? Why should we have to start a thread about every rumor?? Where are you Ref?? Lock this one too!
12-05-2016, 08:11 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Lol, You expect Keenum & Cohen to be contacted by Mullen about every Bleacher Report rumor? Mullen doesn't have to do shit...he's not getting a contract extension so he's got leverage. It's the nature of the business. Would you rather him be like Saban, tell us he's staying and then leave anyway? Our fans Saying he "must disspell the rumors" is just so funny to me. As if you'd do it if it were Your job

Yes I do. Tell you what- why don't I put out rumors about you leaving your job to your boss and you tell me how it goes? Other coaches dispel rumors so why is Dan above that? Whether they are true or not? That's also part of the business and part that Dan has failed at pretty miserably so far. Our own AD was telling recruits that he wasn't going to be the AD and to not believe it up to the day before he was named the AD. So Cohen knows how it works. And if there were rumors about my job and my boss approached me about it you better believe I would deny it. As you would too. Businesses have fired people for looking around in some instances.

So, yes I would rather Dan lie about looking around because I'll tell you- I'm not pissed at Cohen for lying about it. Players and recruits want to know who they are playing for- especially in a sport that is so specialized like football. You think Keytaeon Thompson wants to play QB for Paul Johnson? Our fans need to hear it because people want to support someone that is going to be here.

It's funny to me that people like you think it's no big deal when Dan looking around and not dispelling it was the biggest reason why he didn't get extended in the first place. So, it's a big deal to someone at MSU that's higher than me.
12-05-2016, 08:12 PM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by C222

I would love to know who you think we could get that would be better.

We can't know for sure...but Brohm looked pretty good, as does PJ Fleck. Dan's big upside is he's the Dual-threat QB guru. But he does have his faults...as does just about anyone. Another coach would probably not be as goos with QB development, bt he might be better at recruiting, or game-calling or getting a DC, etc, etc.

There are no guarantees.
12-05-2016, 08:13 PM
GTHOM

Oregon wants Chip Kelly
12-05-2016, 08:14 PM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by Bucky Dog

THIS!!!!! Stop ****ing starting these stupid ass threads where rumor this and rumor that and some on here have to give their two cents! Why should he respond to every rumor? Why should we have to start a thread about every rumor?? Where are you Ref?? Lock this one too!

Because he makes $4+ million per year..and when he farts around with this shit, it hurts our recruiting and our name-brand.

For $4+ mill we can damn sure expect him to go out there 100 times or more to deny any interest, etc.
12-05-2016, 08:15 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by basedog

Pretty sure Keenum and Cohen know what is going on. I don't blame Mullen, I wouldn't say anything either, remember he hasn't received a contract extension. Oregon is gonna put out a bunch of coaches thrown into their mix, it makes them look better nationally.

Btw, I think Oregon has probably been turned down by a couple of coaches.

They probably do, but I don't definitively know that. And I do agree that when you are looking for a job you normally want to keep it as quiet as possible- that's how you should handle it. But being a power five football coach makes it hard to do that than a typical job. And I've never had a problem with Dan looking around- my problem is how it has been handled by him and the University. A statement isn't going to hurt anything.
12-05-2016, 08:16 PM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by Bucky Dog

Where are you Ref?? Lock this one too!

This one started by a mod. Probably why it wasn't locked.
12-05-2016, 08:17 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Yes I do. Tell you what- why don't I put out rumors about you leaving your job to your boss and you tell me how it goes? Other coaches dispel rumors so why is Dan above that? Whether they are true or not? That's also part of the business and part that Dan has failed at pretty miserably so far. Our own AD was telling recruits that he wasn't going to be the AD and to not believe it up to the day before he was named the AD. So Cohen knows how it works. And if there were rumors about my job and my boss approached me about it you better believe I would deny it. As you would too. Businesses have fired people for looking around in some instances.

So, yes I would rather Dan lie about looking around because I'll tell you- I'm not pissed at Cohen for lying about it. Players and recruits want to know who they are playing for- especially in a sport that is so specialized like football. You think Keytaeon Thompson wants to play QB for Paul Johnson? Our fans need to hear it because people want to support someone that is going to be here.

It's funny to me that people like you think it's no big deal when Dan looking around and not dispelling it was the biggest reason why he didn't get extended in the first place. So, it's a big deal to someone at MSU that's higher than me.

Looking around because a message board from Oregon says he is own their shots list.

Damn. Ok, let me tell you what I know, this comes from inside information, he hasn't interviewed, he didn't have his agent pursue the Ducks. Rumors just what it is.
12-05-2016, 08:18 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Yes I do. Tell you what- why don't I put out rumors about you leaving your job to your boss and you tell me how it goes? Other coaches dispel rumors so why is Dan above that? Whether they are true or not? That's also part of the business and part that Dan has failed at pretty miserably so far. Our own AD was telling recruits that he wasn't going to be the AD and to not believe it up to the day before he was named the AD. So Cohen knows how it works. And if there were rumors about my job and my boss approached me about it you better believe I would deny it. As you would too. Businesses have fired people for looking around in some instances.

So, yes I would rather Dan lie about looking around because I'll tell you- I'm not pissed at Cohen for lying about it. Players and recruits want to know who they are playing for- especially in a sport that is so specialized like football. You think Keytaeon Thompson wants to play QB for Paul Johnson? Our fans need to hear it because people want to support someone that is going to be here.

It's funny to me that people like you think it's no big deal when Dan looking around and not dispelling it was the biggest reason why he didn't get extended in the first place. So, it's a big deal to someone at MSU that's higher than me.

You and I aren't a hot commodity like Mullen. That's where you're missing it...Mullen has leverage bc nobody is going to say, GTFO. Nor should they.
12-05-2016, 08:20 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

You and I aren't a hot commodity like Mullen. That's where you're missing it...Mullen has leverage bc nobody is going to say, GTFO. Nor should they.

LMBO! I got you -7 on PlayStation.
12-05-2016, 08:23 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by basedog

Looking around because a message board from Oregon says he is own their shots list.

Damn. Ok, let me tell you what I know, this comes from inside information, he hasn't interviewed, he didn't have his agent pursue the Ducks. Rumors just what it is.

I don't think he is going either, but a statement doesn't hurt because the rumor is out there.
12-05-2016, 08:30 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I don't think he is going either, but a statement doesn't hurt because the rumor is out there.

It wouldn't change anything, it's obvious the rumors will never go away with Mullen. I think much of it has to do with how we Msu are perceived across the country. We have never in my lifetime had a Coach even mentioned for another job. Well JWS did want to return to Pitt but was shot down by their President.
12-05-2016, 08:32 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

You and I aren't a hot commodity like Mullen. That's where you're missing it...Mullen has leverage bc nobody is going to say, GTFO. Nor should they.

Businesses don't want their employees looking around for other jobs period. I don't care if you are the CEO or the cleaning lady. You might want to tell that second sentence to the guy that didn't extend his contract in the first place. No one is above being fired at any time for any reason- reasonable or not. That includes me and you.

All we're asking for is a damn statement from his secretary. That's really too much to ask? Do you think Dan is better than Florida's coach which is a much more prestigious program than ours? PJ Fleck denied rumors on ESPN when they tried to bait him but Dan is somehow above that? And what you aren't getting is a statement might also quell any of the other rumors.

You're asking why would it help when you should be asking what would it hurt? Why would you not want our football program to do a small thing that would secure it's stability and only help? Because you think it's "stupid"? Because you think I'm arrogant? GTFO.
12-05-2016, 08:38 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by basedog

It wouldn't change anything, it's obvious the rumors will never go away with Mullen. I think much of it has to do with how we Msu are perceived across the country. We have never in my lifetime had a Coach even mentioned for another job. Well JWS did want to return to Pitt but was shot down by their President.

It won't stop the rumors but it will help manage our program. That's what everyone that wants a statement is saying. If you don't there is a lot of uncertainty. That does affect recruiting. And if he does by very, very, very slim chance leave then that creates an even longer period of uncertainty.

Look at how we handled our recent baseball coach hire. We did that flawlessly IMO. And there were certainly rumors about Cohen becoming the AD for a month or so before it happened. That's all I want to have happen here. And not that I think he's leaving- I just want it managed well whether he stays or leaves.

If you have to release a statement every year, release one every year. So what? That's part of it. That's better than doing nothing and having other teams take advantage of us not doing anything about it every year.
12-05-2016, 09:01 PM
I seen it dawg

It's real easy to throw a tweet out of we can't be more excited to prepare for our bowl game and our great recruiting class that is about to hit campus. Real easy.
12-05-2016, 09:29 PM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If you have to release a statement every year, release one every year. So what? That's part of it. That's better than doing nothing and having other teams take advantage of us not doing anything about it every year.

For $4+ million he can do it as many times as it helps. If he needs to do it 5 times a year...ten times a year, so what?
12-05-2016, 09:31 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

It's real easy to throw a tweet out of we can't be more excited to prepare for our bowl game and our great recruiting class that is about to hit campus. Real easy.

Why is that so hard for people like basedog to understand?
12-05-2016, 09:32 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Once our fans all get it through their heads that this is Mullen's job, and that he's not some fan that has bled maroon since birth...maybe we can all realize that job searches, job interviews, and playing ball to get more money is just part of the "business" that he is a part of.

Quit expecting more from Mullen than you would from yourself with your own job.

This
12-05-2016, 09:35 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Why is that so hard for people like basedog to understand?

Doesn't Mullen have 2 years left on contract? With no guarantee here beyond that, why say he has no interest?

What if Mullen hasn't even been contacted? What would he be shooting down? A 247 article?
12-05-2016, 09:35 PM
bulldawg28

By now our fans should be able to ignore it by now. Every year his name pops up. With the success of Dak now his name will become even hotter.

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