Paul saying it looks like Cohen will be AD

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10-28-2016, 03:25 PM
mparkerfd20

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Maybe it's my profession, but I don't see it that way. He said the search was over (we've interviewed at least four people since then, so all evidence is to the contrary), Cohen had been chosen (to believe this you would have to believe we interviewed at least four people just for show and there is zero evidence of that), and it would be announced on Tuesday (factually wrong).

Spin it however the hell you want. If Cohen is named AD, Bonner was right PERIOD and Keenum looks like a dumbass who should've just kept his mouth shut and let the time pass.
10-28-2016, 03:30 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Im not saying fire or anything like that but HSV's post is dead on

Exactly. The issue here is how Kennum reacted to the Clarion-Ledger. If they would have just shrugged it off and said "no press conference is scheduled for Tuesday" then no big deal. MSU didn't do that. They pretty much called Bonner out and made a big deal about it.
10-28-2016, 03:38 PM
tireddawg

Some of you wanted our university to stand up to the CL & now they do you complain. Unbelievable.
10-28-2016, 03:39 PM
BankerDog

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Wait a second, Cohen and Howland know how to recruit to State? Half the fans were ready to fire Cohen a couple years ago. His program defines rollercoaster. He had one big year like Mullen.
Howland has yet to prove a damn thing on the court. So the jury is still out on him.

Howland'S recruiting classes have been better then anything else on campus recently. Wasn't it top 6 last year?

Cohen went to a NC and won the SEC outright last year. His program is the most consistent we've had. His recruiting classes speak for themselves.
10-28-2016, 03:51 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by tireddawg

Some of you wanted our university to stand up to the CL & now they do you complain. Unbelievable.

There is huge difference in standing up to the CL and picking a fight because someone in your own shop leaked the story.
10-28-2016, 03:54 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Howland'S recruiting classes have been better then anything else on campus recently. Wasn't it top 6 last year?

Cohen went to a NC and won the SEC outright last year. His program is the most consistent we've had. His recruiting classes speak for themselves.

And Howland has yet to win games (recruiting rankings aren't always right). Got to wait and see on him. Cohen has finished 6th or 7th in the West 3 times at State. He's had a winning SEC record only 4 times. His SEC winning percentage is .454 at State. He had his one big year (and it was huge) and Mullen had his one big year. Dan has a .450 SEC winning percentage. So, no, there's not a lot of difference in Cohen and Mullen programs. Cohen just took his one big year further and finished the job, where Mullen fell off.
10-28-2016, 03:54 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by mparkerfd20

Spin it however the hell you want. If Cohen is named AD, Bonner was right PERIOD and Keenum looks like a dumbass who should've just kept his mouth shut and let the time pass.

Spin? Ok.

What exactly was bonner right about if Cohen is named AD? Bonner did not say Cohen ultimately will be hired as AD after the ongoing search continues and at least 4 more people are interviewed. He said the search is over and msu has decided on a candidate.
10-28-2016, 04:03 PM
tireddawg

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

There is huge difference in standing up to the CL and picking a fight because someone in your own shop leaked the story.

I understand what you're saying but standing up is standing up & they'll know moving forward they can't just push us around. Keenum knows what he did was questionable but he probably was willing to take that reputation hit to get his point across & to let them know he ain't taking their crap. To your other point, that leak needs to be dealt with. Could it have been an agent?
10-28-2016, 04:17 PM
mparkerfd20

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Spin? Ok.

What exactly was bonner right about if Cohen is named AD? Bonner did not say Cohen ultimately will be hired as AD after the ongoing search continues and at least 4 more people are interviewed. He said the search is over and msu has decided on a candidate.

I understand what you're saying and going by the letter, Bonner was technically not right, but that's not how everyone will see it. I'm just cutting through the bullshit and saying Keenum should have just left it alone instead of painting himself into a corner.
10-28-2016, 04:18 PM
Coursesuper

So Jon Cohen is the guy to lead the Athletic Department at MSU, why is it a wonderful thing that he has been chosen? What attributes make him the obvious choice?
10-28-2016, 04:26 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by tireddawg

Some of you wanted our university to stand up to the CL & now they do you complain. Unbelievable.

Agreed, stand up to the CL when they screw us over or are dead wrong. Standing up when they apparently reported an accurate story just makes us look stupid. Of course, Cohen hasn't been named AD yet so nothing is for sure. Paul has certainly been wrong before.
10-28-2016, 04:29 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

And Howland has yet to win games (recruiting rankings aren't always right). Got to wait and see on him. Cohen has finished 6th or 7th in the West 3 times at State. He's had a winning SEC record only 4 times. His SEC winning percentage is .454 at State. He had his one big year (and it was huge) and Mullen had his one big year. Dan has a .450 SEC winning percentage. So, no, there's not a lot of difference in Cohen and Mullen programs. Cohen just took his one big year further and finished the job, where Mullen fell off.

Ahh, thought this shit would show up from one of you on Howland. This is his second year and he will have two top 25 classes and one top ten class to his credit in recruiting. This team has more talent on it by itself then anything Stansbury had put together in his ten+ years here. The wins will come and odds are good we make the NIT this year.

As far as Mullen and Cohen having similar coaching careers, let me know when Mullen wins an SEC championship and gets to a national championship game and I'll hang up and listen. Cohen has won two SEC championships and gotten to one national championship series so no their coaching careers aren't even close to the same.
10-28-2016, 04:36 PM
bobcat91

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

And Howland has yet to win games (recruiting rankings aren't always right). Got to wait and see on him. Cohen has finished 6th or 7th in the West 3 times at State. He's had a winning SEC record only 4 times. His SEC winning percentage is .454 at State. He had his one big year (and it was huge) and Mullen had his one big year. Dan has a .450 SEC winning percentage. So, no, there's not a lot of difference in Cohen and Mullen programs. Cohen just took his one big year further and finished the job, where Mullen fell off.

This is simply one of the most ignorant posts seen on this board ever. Howland has a history of success. Those include championship games and Final Fours. There is zero reason to believe that he won't be wildly successful here. Cohen took over the worst teams in modern MSU history, so the facts are correct about his finishes, but with no context. He would have been more successful if he had started the team from scratch. Since those first two years. He has been great. We had one poor year since the rebuild and several super regionals. That is great success. Mullen has taken us to places in football we have never been before. Your criticisms are bs.
10-28-2016, 04:39 PM
bulldogcountry1

If we hire an AD with no experience AND then hire a baseball coach with no HC experience, I'm done.
10-28-2016, 04:40 PM
BB30

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

He would just use the advantages we have here to his advantage. Corbin is Vanderbilt baseball as I stated a billion times. Their program will turn to shit when he leaves. If Vandy has all of these advantages as you say it does, why did it take Corbin to realize them? Vandy's program was shit when he got there and it will be shit again when he leaves.

If you don't see the advantage Vandy has over state I can't help you. It may or may not be a better job overall but it is a lot closer then you think. When you can sign as many guys in state as you want and save scholly money for out of staters that is a huge huge advantage. Not only that, but it is a lot easier to get a top draft prospect aka late 1st rounder when you can offer him 90% of a Vandy Education whereas we can offer that same kid 30% of a State education. Not saying that our education is that much worse but a Vandy diploma is looked at as much better by most and is much closer to what a 2nd or 3rd round signing bonus is compared to the 30% we can offer.
10-28-2016, 04:41 PM
bobcat91

As far as Cohen as AD, he isn't my first choice. But having said that, he is a bright guy and a tireless worker. He wins. Period. With Weatherby as associate AD to fill in his weak areas, he will learn fast and do a great job. I have zero doubt that the new Baseball hire will be a HR. Some just want to be critical, but I'm all for hiring a State first guy. I would love to have a video of the meeting with Mullen at the end of the season. A weak, timid Scott Stricklin he isnt.
10-28-2016, 05:12 PM
1bigdawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

And Howland has yet to win games (recruiting rankings aren't always right). Got to wait and see on him. Cohen has finished 6th or 7th in the West 3 times at State. He's had a winning SEC record only 4 times. His SEC winning percentage is .454 at State. He had his one big year (and it was huge) and Mullen had his one big year. Dan has a .450 SEC winning percentage. So, no, there's not a lot of difference in Cohen and Mullen programs. Cohen just took his one big year further and finished the job, where Mullen fell off.

The guy said Howland proved you could recruit to Starkville, not that he would win here. People gripe about Mullen's recruiting rankings. In that category, Howland has been outstanding. The fact that he has not won does not change the fact that he has proven that one can recruit to Starkville.

I guess you think Johnny Jones at LSU can't recruit also, because he has not won much. Oh yeah, first pick in the NBA draft...
10-28-2016, 05:21 PM
AROB44

I am shocked that certain posters on this board were not consulted on not only the AD but also on the new coach, if Cohen is indeed the new AD. Surely this is a major oversight.
10-28-2016, 05:47 PM
Joe Schmedlap

Lots of disdain on this board for the little imp that coaches baseball at Florida, but the mofo can coach. He looks like a fiery version of Ron Polk. An intense leprechaun bastard.
10-28-2016, 05:53 PM
turkish

Some of y'all need to quit beating around the bush and make some predictions on how many championships Howland's gonna bring home to Starkville. Good Lord!

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