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07-10-2013, 04:55 PM
TexasDawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Ok texas dawg are you a ****ing idiot. He compared things that actually occur during games that you can see. Can you dispute those things?? If so I'd like to hear how because its painfully evident that our intramural team we fielded out of the Stains dumpster fire that Ray had to coach was infinitely better coached than the talent that was coached by the intramural coach we had.

I said the argument is stupid, that was the point the over 10 win thing meant to accomplish. I hope Rick Ray is a great coach, I truly do. There is nothing I want more than our basketball program to succeed. All I am saying is I'm not ready to jump the gun and proclaim Ray as better than Stansbury. If I am a ****ing idiot for not admitting that a HC with 10 careers victories is better than a former HC with 293 victories, then lock me away I suppose.
07-10-2013, 04:58 PM
MSUDawg4Life

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If Ray doesn't succeed, it's because WE as fans/alumni/boosters didn't fully support him. And I don't understand that. Was he the big name that everyone wanted? No. But that doesn't mean he can't be successful. Based on what I have seen, I think he will win at least as well as Stansbury did. You can't judge him on last year's team- and I don't think Stansbury would have done any better.

If Ray doesn't succeed, it'll be because he couldn't recruit the talent needed to win at a high level. From what I've seen, I think he's a good basketball coach and can win if he has the talent.

The fans will support a winner. If Ray starts to win, the Hump will be packed again in no time. MSU fans will be there.

Ray just needs to win. And the key is getting the talent to win with.
07-10-2013, 04:59 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by TexasDawg

For the 441st time, I am on the fence with Ray. I don't consider myself to have allegiances to Stansbury or Ray.

And if we are really gonna play this game :
You compare their ability to win over 10 games? Advantage Stansbury

See? That is stupid to do. Why? Because he has coached for one ****ing year. He could be the greatest hire we ever made, or he could end up being a complete clown. Who knows. This is why in my opinion, it is extremely premature to say that Ray is a better basketball coach than someone who won 2 SEC titles.

We dont have a complete clown- and it's for those reasons I mentioned. If you watched the games and paid attention to what they were doing- and didnt just watch the basketball being passed around- you know we have a good coach.

I dont know if he can recruit as well as Stands- and that will eventually decide his fate- but one year is plenty to see that he actually coaches the ****ing game of basketball better than Stands did.

P.S. Stands only won 1 SEC Title- not 2 (which is still good though...an SEC Title is an SEC Title)
07-10-2013, 05:04 PM
TexasDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We dont have a complete clown- and it's for those reasons I mentioned. If you watched the games and paid attention to what they were doing- and didnt just watch the basketball being passed around- you know we have a good coach.

I dont know if he can recruit as well as Stands- and that will eventually decide his fate- but one year is plenty to see that he actually coaches the ****ing game of basketball better than Stands did.

P.S. Stands only one 1 SEC Title- not 2 (which is still good though...an SEC Title is an SEC Title)

For the record, I have never said Rick Ray was a bad basketball coach. I said I am not ready to call him better than Stansbury. I don't see the wrong in that. Coach he won the conference tournament in 2002 and 2009. So please elaborate on 1 SEC title
07-10-2013, 05:08 PM
mic

I could really go off on the Stands topic but Im not. You cant fix stupid when it comes to the Stands cult.
Was RR may first choice .. No..
Was I shocked we hired him... Yes
Was everyone that thought they were "In the know" shocked.. Yes
Yes I was told k Payne was basically a done deal and SS pulled the rug over a lot of peoples eyes and it pissed some people off.
After it went down a good friend of mine an ex hoops player at MSU (on the final $ team and played for both stands and Williams) told me who we hired what went down and he said that we were f*cked.
After the UGA game we won ( which Stands lost to the same UGA team twice the following year once at home) my boy said and I quote ."this Cat can flat out coach, if he can recruit our program will be leaps and bounds better than it was under Stands."
He also said there was NO WAY we were getting Mailk Newman with stands here.
Another thing about Stands is how many assistant coaches under him got head jobs at other schools ???
He never hired really good assistants because he didn't want guys under him that we actually smarter than him. I didn't say that , came from a ex player.
and about his character. he 'resigned' right. It is amazing to me that we NEVER once recognized the Final Four team. Not the 10 year anniversary or 15 yr .. And this past year when we recognized all the ex players. One man was missing. Yep good ole Stands. I guess he was busy that day. Sounds lot like another ex msu coach to me...
Anything that was accomplished Pre Stands he didn't want to acknowledge. was told again by a player that a lot of the final four memorabilia wasn't displayed in the hallway or locker room area.. I saw and heard Coach Williams was back at more than a few games this year I don't remember seeing him much at all during Stands time at State.
One last thing that I was actually shocked at. Stands only won SEC coach of the year ONCE... one time that's it... I think Andy katz who isn't pro MSU by any means said Rick Ray should have won it last year with the job he did...
07-10-2013, 05:10 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by TexasDawg

Coach he won the conference tournament in 2002 and 2009. So please elaborate on 1 SEC title

He won an SEC Title in 2004
He won the SEC Tournament Titles in 2002 and 2009

There's a difference
07-10-2013, 05:12 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by FelkerFanatic53

Ray may be the better coach, but if he can't get the players here like Stansbury did...then we will never reach "17-18" games in a year

Basketball "stars" and recruiting are a TOTALLY different animal than football or baseball.
07-10-2013, 05:14 PM
Coach34

whoa Mic- I dont remember Stands winning SEC Coach of the Year...I know he didnt on the coaches vote
07-10-2013, 05:16 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by Coach34

whoa Mic- I dont remember Stands winning SEC Coach of the Year...I know he didnt on the coaches vote

I was guessing it had to be in 2004.. when we went like 14-2 .. if he didn't that year then ur right he never did.
07-10-2013, 05:18 PM
CapitolCityDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

whoa Mic- I dont remember Stands winning SEC Coach of the Year...I know he didnt on the coaches vote

That's another thing... Every other coach in the league despised Stansbury. The lack of respect from his colleagues tells you all you need to know IMO
07-10-2013, 05:41 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by mic

I was guessing it had to be in 2004.. when we went like 14-2 .. if he didn't that year then ur right he never did.

He didnt win it in 2004 from the coaches vote I know- was a bigtime point I made early in my Sixpack days...he may have won the media vote or a Better Homes and Gardens vote
07-10-2013, 06:11 PM
theloungeinleft

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Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life

I do too. I think it makes him a little more personable and relatable to the fans. It's funny to see the fans interact with him about his movie references. Makes him one of us.

I prefer using IMDB.com.
07-10-2013, 06:13 PM
theloungeinleft

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If Ray doesn't succeed, it's because WE as fans/alumni/boosters didn't fully support him. And I don't understand that. Was he the big name that everyone wanted? No. But that doesn't mean he can't be successful. Based on what I have seen, I think he will win at least as well as Stansbury did. You can't judge him on last year's team- and I don't think Stansbury would have done any better.

This exact same thing happened to Cohen- on a bigger scale in my opinion- and things worked out OK.

The Stansbury people need to understand that he did well overall, but his time is now over. And in the sports world it is extremely rare that a coach goes out on top. It's just the nature of the beast. Heck, my uncle was fired at least 2-3 times as a minor league baseball coach- usually because the orgaization changed front officies or ownership- and he simply found another coaching job with someone else. So, I know how that industry works.

Man, that's bold...
07-10-2013, 06:22 PM
Demdawgs

lol

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If Ray doesn't succeed, it's because WE as fans/alumni/boosters didn't fully support him. And I don't understand that. Was he the big name that everyone wanted? No. But that doesn't mean he can't be successful. Based on what I have seen, I think he will win at least as well as Stansbury did. You can't judge him on last year's team- and I don't think Stansbury would have done any better.

This exact same thing happened to Cohen- on a bigger scale in my opinion- and things worked out OK.

The Stansbury people need to understand that he did well overall, but his time is now over. And in the sports world it is extremely rare that a coach goes out on top. It's just the nature of the beast. Heck, my uncle was fired at least 2-3 times as a minor league baseball coach- usually because the orgaization changed front officies or ownership- and he simply found another coaching job with someone else. So, I know how that industry works.

lol on the first one
second one i completely agree, tell your friends.
07-10-2013, 07:42 PM
cheat2win

Any one know what events Ray is missing? Really hope he didnt skip Peach Jam
07-10-2013, 07:54 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by CapitolCityDawg

That's another thing... Every other coach in the league despised Stansbury. The lack of respect from his colleagues tells you all you need to know IMO

AGREE 100%
07-10-2013, 08:54 PM
Dawgpile

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Originally Posted by FreeBoosie

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