Rick Ray gets another head job before Stands

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Originally Posted by Coach34

New head coach at SE Missouri State

Best of luck RR

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1. Hope RRay succeeds at this gig .. glad he got another HC job

2. Taking another jab at Stans .. it must be killing you 'when' he just got promoted to associated HC. Probably has in excess of $5M in the bank .. doing what he does best .. recruiting. Just landed the #4 Class at A&M .. something A&M had NEVER done before he landed there.

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Originally Posted by smootness

How often do assistants at decent major programs get decent head coaching jobs? Rarely ever.

How often do successful mid-major coaches get them?

I don't really see how someone can argue that being an assistant at a place like VT or Texas A&M is better, career-wise, than being a head coach just about anywhere. Again, unless you're simply happy finishing your career as an assistant or can potentially get a better job by waiting another year or two.

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I disagree. You're better off at A&M waiting on an offer from a better program than an SEMO.

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

Wrong -- SEMO beat writers acknowledge that Chew was offered and turned down the job to remain at VT.

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Was Stephens offered too?

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Originally Posted by notsofarawaydawg

Oh yeah, DAWG61, you are one to be saying anything about a color reference someone else posts on this board. You only see one color as good and the other as bad. SMH

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What in the actual **** are you talking about? Link or shut the **** up clown.

I'm convinced 34 was spurned by Meo somewhere along the way or something. There is something personal there against Stansbury that he's never publicly coped to. It goes alot deeper than he admits that it does.

The whole fanbase is ready to move on/has moved on -- yet Coach is still trying his damnedest to keep the old wounds open. No one gives a shit about who was right or wrong anymore. Essentially with the Ray hire one side was right and with the Howland hire the other side was right. At this point, everyone that argued on either side can now successfully argue that they were right. Along with the momentum the program is building right now -- it's a damn perfect time to just call a truce and ceasefire and move on. Even though I know deep down that it won't happen -- and it sure as hell doesn't look like it's going to be the Stansbury grey-hairs' fault either...

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

I disagree. You're better off at A&M waiting on an offer from a better program than an SEMO.

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Sigh, I don't know how many times I have to say it. It depends on if you can get a better job by waiting.

Personally, I would guess most assistants at a place like A&M can't get a better job than SEMS.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Sigh, I don't know how many times I have to say it. It depends on if you can get a better job by waiting.

Personally, I would guess most assistants at a place like A&M can't get a better job than SEMS.

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I hear ya, but the point is if you don't know if you can get a better job, it is better to wait and stay where you are than take the se mo st crappy job. Which is to say, even I'd nothing better comes along, you are better at a@m than se mo st. Three times the money, better lifestyle, planes over buses, etc.

Why is this still a thing? We are almost a half decade from the Rick Ray hire. Can we please let the whole Ray-Stand shit go and move on to the promising future Malik Newman and Ben Howland.

You are spot on. 34 has a MAJOR problem and needs help really. But I always love it when his head in the ass friend who works on campus always stated Ray would get 4 years as a head coach,well he was right but one year will be at SEMO not here.

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Originally Posted by engie

I'm convinced 34 was spurned by Meo somewhere along the way or something. There is something personal there against Stansbury that he's never publicly coped to. It goes alot deeper than he admits that it does.

The whole fanbase is ready to move on/has moved on -- yet Coach is still trying his damnedest to keep the old wounds open. No one gives a shit about who was right or wrong anymore. Essentially with the Ray hire one side was right and with the Howland hire the other side was right. At this point, everyone that argued on either side can now successfully argue that they were right. Along with the momentum the program is building right now -- it's a damn perfect time to just call a truce and ceasefire and move on. Even though I know deep down that it won't happen -- and it sure as hell doesn't look like it's going to be the Stansbury grey-hairs' fault either...

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Originally Posted by pilldawg

Associate Head Coach at Texas A&M > Head Coach of SE Missouri State

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This is incorrect. SEMO is a good job. And a head gig is better than an assistant gig if they are both division I offers.

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Originally Posted by engie

I'm convinced 34 was spurned by Meo somewhere along the way or something. There is something personal there against Stansbury that he's never publicly coped to. It goes alot deeper than he admits that it does.

The whole fanbase is ready to move on/has moved on -- yet Coach is still trying his damnedest to keep the old wounds open. No one gives a shit about who was right or wrong anymore. Essentially with the Ray hire one side was right and with the Howland hire the other side was right. At this point, everyone that argued on either side can now successfully argue that they were right. Along with the momentum the program is building right now -- it's a damn perfect time to just call a truce and ceasefire and move on. Even though I know deep down that it won't happen -- and it sure as hell doesn't look like it's going to be the Stansbury grey-hairs' fault either...

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I would have to agree. It is way past time to move on. Coach does bring up Stans at the drop of the hat, and will create something if he has, and I can't understand that this far out. Besides that, he is usually spot on.

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Originally Posted by engie

I'm convinced 34 was spurned by Meo somewhere along the way or something. There is something personal there against Stansbury that he's never publicly coped to. It goes alot deeper than he admits that it does.

The whole fanbase is ready to move on/has moved on -- yet Coach is still trying his damnedest to keep the old wounds open. No one gives a shit about who was right or wrong anymore. Essentially with the Ray hire one side was right and with the Howland hire the other side was right. At this point, everyone that argued on either side can now successfully argue that they were right. Along with the momentum the program is building right now -- it's a damn perfect time to just call a truce and ceasefire and move on. Even though I know deep down that it won't happen -- and it sure as hell doesn't look like it's going to be the Stansbury grey-hairs' fault either...

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I really dont know what Meo Stansbury looks like and have never spoken one word to her. I have no idea when she went to State- just a couple of quick shots on TV here and there
Ive talked to Stands very briefly. I'm not jealous of any coaches. I had my chance at college coaching and passed on it. That's not where I wanted to go.

I have always been amazed at the way people take up for him. He can never do any wrong with some people- even when he does wrong. It's mind-baffling.
I've also been amazed at the way I can get under people's skin on the internet. I can literally post something on Sixpack and now Elite- and it will send some people into a rage and others into laughing frenzy. It's literally created a personna that I never expected back in 2003 when I was emailing with Thunderclap, Chewgumm, and few others when one of them heard about SPS.

We are at 90 replies. Topics that go 4 pages or more will always be brought up

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

This is incorrect. SEMO is a good job. And a head gig is better than an assistant gig if they are both division I offers.

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exactly

Being THE guy is better than being the guy being told what to do by THE guy

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I really dont know what Meo Stansbury looks like and have never spoken one word to her. I have no idea when she went to State- just a couple of quick shots on TV here and there
Ive talked to Stands very briefly. I'm not jealous of any coaches. I had my chance at college coaching and passed on it. That's not where I wanted to go.

I have always been amazed at the way people take up for him. He can never do any wrong with some people- even when he does wrong. It's mind-baffling.
I've also been amazed at the way I can get under people's skin on the internet. I can literally post something on Sixpack and now Elite- and it will send some people into a rage and others into laughing frenzy. It's literally created a personna that I never expected back in 2003 when I was emailing with Thunderclap, Chewgumm, and few others when one of them heard about SPS.

We are at 90 replies. Topics that go 4 pages or more will always be brought up

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So you were a failure. Just using your logic.

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Originally Posted by Coach

So you were a failure. Just using your logic.

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How so?

Per your logic. You are trying your best to suggest that Stansbury is less of a man/coach because he's not a head coach somewhere. Fact is you don't really know the reason, you just have a fettish with him. Maybe he was the one that got your shot at a college job...

so we should apply the standard you set for him to your accomplishments or lack there of. So you never have coached at the college level.

Here's where you are flawed:

1. Stands is pursuing a head job extremely hard

2. I turned down a college job

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Yea I've heard that from some major guys everybody was back pulling in the same direction but wanted to get SD opinion.

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Being a friend of shannondawg I can tell y'all he's happy with Howland! Fact is he is a great Msu supporter!

Rick will be the head coach at TX A&M. He will wait. I mentioned this in another Stansbury/C34 thread which are weirdly common these days. We need more Howland threads since....well you know....he's our coach now. Stans was 2 coaches ago.

P.S. I was on board with the Ray hire when it happened and supported Ray unlike the Stans supporters.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

exactly

Being THE guy is better than being the guy being told what to do by THE guy

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This is simply not true. At least, not always. Context matters. All things being equal, yes head gig is better. But if I told you, for instance, to choose bt a head job where you will not win, make 1/3 the money, in a crappy place, where you will be canned in 2-3 years, I hope you would not choose that over an associate head job with more $, all the perks, and job stability.