Just here to say that we have money issues.. not coaching

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

So you are saying that the execution of the passing play was good? Like I said. Today's game has changed. Analytics ...old school people hate them because it's not what they were raised on. But we are over 50% in those plays based off that. Like I said, I am old school in many ways. I'm good with running it there to try to set up the FG kicker.

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Analytics will never win over football logic and game feel. That crap goes out the window fame by game because each freaking game is different.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

LOL! Ok. We will never be more than what we are now due to the mindset of fans. We will destroy anything being build because we know better. It will always be play the back up and we have to fire the coach regardless of actual issues.

And with that, I am out

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Lebby hasn't built anything that could be destroyed...

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

Honest question... would you invest in a stock that you have seen people invest money into and the product just sits on the shelf? Would you invest in same product if the CEO was a first time CEO and he cost the company millions of dollars by decisions he made? Because companies are suppose to be profitable, right? If not, they go under.

The players we paid the most for sit on the bench. And our coach has made multiple decisions that lost us the game.

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Of course I wouldn't. That's also not even remotely a good comparison.

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Of course I wouldn't. That's also not even remotely a good comparison.

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Why do you say that? We are investing our money in this. So how is it not the same? Show me how you would compare this topic cause I'm willing to see yoir side.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I know this may sound silly, but I have an idea....

Stop giving the freshman an option and just call the F'ing pass in the RPO route! Mind blowing, I know.

I mean, these coaches kill me. You get paid millions a year, and your excuse is that a freshman can't also play Offensive Coordinator mid play, so the more talented guy doesn't see the field??! Are you kidding me?! Lebby, you're the coach, want the kid to run a specific play, CALL IT. Am I living in the twilight zone here, what are we doing?

That's like me telling my child, you have the option today to do one of 3 chores....1. Clean the toilets, 2. Turn off your room lights, 3. Keep the front door shut......and wondering why the toilets never get cleaned. Take away the easier options and the more beneficial one will get done. These coaches expect these QB's to be de facto OC's and we wonder why none of them can play at State until they're Juniors or transfer out. Do your f'ing job, Coach....and if Taylor or any other QB isn't capable of doing what you need....well, you recruited them, so that's on you too.

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Man this post makes way too much sense.

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

It is speculation. But what isn't speculation now is that he made the wrong decisions. Because of those decisions we are in the position we are now. You have said we dont have the talent to execute so why run the riskiest play of all of them? It's really no point in arguing because everyone is going to stick to what they believe. I believe from previous coaching decisions and results of those coaching decisions that he isn't the man for the job. We need players. We need money. For me personally.. I will no longer invest my hard earned money to a product that is obviously headed toward bankruptcy. That will be dumb on my part. The money that was raised has been invested and there is no arguing we are better than we was last year. But instead of being an 8 win team.. we are a 5 win team. In my eyes not because of talent but because of coaching. I will get criticized for this but that's completely okay

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Then get off the board and take your talents to AMC or the local park. Obviously this is a source of entertainment for you that youll do everything but commit to

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

Honest question... would you invest in a stock that you have seen people invest money into and the product just sits on the shelf? Would you invest in same product if the CEO was a first time CEO and he cost the company millions of dollars by decisions he made? Because companies are suppose to be profitable, right? If not, they go under.

The players we paid the most for sit on the bench. And our coach has made multiple decisions that lost us the game.

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It?s not a stock. Its a football team

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Then get off the board and take your talents to AMC or the local park. Obviously this is a source of entertainment for you that youll do everything but commit to

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Thank God for freedom of choice and speech or I would have to be really worried about you. So I think I'll stay and continue to comment on a public forum where.. guess what... you comment on things and voice your opinion on whatever that topic may be at the time. It really bothers me that I'm not committed as you. Maybe you can get a statue??

Alsoooo. You're obviously very committed. Can you maybe contact some of the former and current NFL guys that played at State and ask them for a few bucks? They might can donate a little more than I can. Probably not as much as you tho.

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

It?s not a stock. Its a football team

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You might be the smartest guy on this board. Replace the word "stock" with "football team", "product" with "bench", "CEO" with "coach" , "companies" with "university", and then answer the question.

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

Why do you say that? We are investing our money in this. So how is it not the same? Show me how you would compare this topic cause I'm willing to see yoir side.

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You aren?t purchasing an item for future value. It?s a commodity if anything but that is still a bad example. You need X dollars of players to field a team capable of doing the things we want and that churns every single year in the current landscape. I dont like the corporate analogy because it isnt really the same thing.

A CEO can take as much debt as they want out to create leverage and prop up a product to succeed 5 years down the line. Companies operate in the red for years before turning a profit all the time. There is no getting a loan for Lebby he can work only with what is given. There is no operating at a loss for 5 years because you would be fired after year 3. Sure you can say he is the CEO of the football team but that?s about as far I would say you can make that analogy.

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

Thank God for freedom of choice and speech or I would have to be really worried about you. So I think I'll stay and continue to comment on a public forum where.. guess what... you comment on things and voice your opinion on whatever that topic may be at the time. It really bothers me that I'm not committed as you. Maybe you can get a statue??

Alsoooo. You're obviously very committed. Can you maybe contact some of the former and current NFL guys that played at State and ask them for a few bucks? They might can donate a little more than I can. Probably not as much as you tho.

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It?s always these guys that say get someone else to do while I sit in the arm chair and complain. I told you go on dont watch and ill use my free speech to tell you to not let the door hit you on the way out so we can quit hearing you b*tch

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

You aren?t purchasing an item for future value. It?s a commodity if anything but that is still a bad example. You need X dollars of players to field a team capable of doing the things we want and that churns every single year in the current landscape. I dont like the corporate analogy because it isnt really the same thing.

A CEO can take as much debt as they want out to create leverage and prop up a product to succeed 5 years down the line. Companies operate in the red for years before turning a profit all the time. There is no getting a loan for Lebby he can work only with what is given. There is no operating at a loss for 5 years because you would be fired after year 3. Sure you can say he is the CEO of the football team but that?s about as far I would say you can make that analogy.

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Thank you. It is quite hilarious seeing all these guys act like they have this magical equation to winning when the simple answer is right there. A couple big donors arent going to put us over the edge it takes complete and total buy in from all of the fanbase and it might not be immediate either

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

You aren?t purchasing an item for future value. It?s a commodity if anything but that is still a bad example. You need X dollars of players to field a team capable of doing the things we want and that churns every single year in the current landscape. I dont like the corporate analogy because it isnt really the same thing.

A CEO can take as much debt as they want out to create leverage and prop up a product to succeed 5 years down the line. Companies operate in the red for years before turning a profit all the time. There is no getting a loan for Lebby he can work only with what is given. There is no operating at a loss for 5 years because you would be fired after year 3. Sure you can say he is the CEO of the football team but that?s about as far I would say you can make that analogy.

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Are you operating in the red to give to state?

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

You aren?t purchasing an item for future value. It?s a commodity if anything but that is still a bad example. You need X dollars of players to field a team capable of doing the things we want and that churns every single year in the current landscape. I dont like the corporate analogy because it isnt really the same thing.

A CEO can take as much debt as they want out to create leverage and prop up a product to succeed 5 years down the line. Companies operate in the red for years before turning a profit all the time. There is no getting a loan for Lebby he can work only with what is given. There is no operating at a loss for 5 years because you would be fired after year 3. Sure you can say he is the CEO of the football team but that?s about as far I would say you can make that analogy.

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I see what you're saying.. that's just how I think of it in my mind. I understand it's not an investment or business venture. I didn't think it would be perceived with this much thought process into it lol you're correct tho

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

It?s always these guys that say get someone else to do while I sit in the arm chair and complain. I told you go on dont watch and ill use my free speech to tell you to not let the door hit you on the way out so we can quit hearing you b*tch

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Well man I really hate to tell you this.. but I ain't going anywhere. Hang tight my man.. misery doesn't last forever. It will pass

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Are you operating in the red to give to state?

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My mental health sure as hell is

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

I see what you're saying.. that's just how I think of it in my mind. I understand it's not an investment or business venture. I didn't think it would be perceived with this much thought process into it lol you're correct tho

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Yeah sorry it?s my line of work so how I equate things. We need cash to be where we want to be, plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Thank you. It is quite hilarious seeing all these guys act like they have this magical equation to winning when the simple answer is right there. A couple big donors arent going to put us over the edge it takes complete and total buy in from all of the fanbase and it might not be immediate either

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Have you let anyone else know about this simple answer besides some posters on ED?

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Yeah sorry it?s my line of work so how I equate things. We need cash to be where we want to be, plain and simple.

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Man I knew it was your line of work when I started reading it. no need for apologies. It's just a conversation and you taught me to leave business examples out of message boards so thank you lol

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

My mental health sure as hell is

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Haha, we all are. Why we love something that causes us such grief is so strange