Realistic Candidates for HC

Heefner is basically a pastor as HC and that's not happening at most schools especially considering the liberalism that has infiltrated even conservative southern schools. He is going to finish his career where he is.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

lol. He's a strong Christian for sure but you have a pretty big misperception about him. I know kids that have played for him.

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I do not have any preconceived notions on him other than what has been told to me from people out in Dallas and people who went to DBU. His stances are extremely hardline and it works because of the hardline rules that DBU has.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Heefner is basically a pastor as HC and that's not happening at most schools especially considering the liberalism that has infiltrated even conservative southern schools. He is going to finish his career where he is.

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It has nothing to do with infiltrated "liberalism", lol. And I can assure you he would detest your (and all of ours') affinity for tits, beer, bourbon, and BJs....so that's RICH coming from you, of all people, lol.

It's definitely about him being pastor as HC. Brother Hugh talked the talk, but obviously was using that ruse for image and recruiting purposes. This guy is not that.

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

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I read it, and I'm curious how you think it diffuses his concerns.

I really hope state doesn?t poach him

DBU is my sons number 1 choice and has been for a long while

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I do not have any preconceived notions on him other than what has been told to me from people out in Dallas and people who went to DBU. His stances are extremely hardline and it works because of the hardline rules that DBU has.

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So they think, lol. Obviously valid among alumni and admin, but I'd bet money those kids are just as (if not more) rebellious as the average State kid...

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I read it, and I'm curious how you think it diffuses his concerns.

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Well how I read it was - yes he?s a Christian and uses his platform for Christ however he doesn?t do it in a way that is fire and brim stone

Speak truth
Speak wisdom
Speak love
Speak life

And if that brings someone to Christ that?s bigger than anything on the field

Oh and while we?re at we?ll play quality baseball and crush

His baseball reputation speaks for itself and if you think his values wouldn?t play well in MS/AL/LA - well that speaks more about society than it does him

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

Well how I read it was - yes he?s a Christian and uses his platform for Christ however he doesn?t do it in a way that is fire and brim stone

Speak truth
Speak wisdom
Speak love
Speak life

And if that brings someone to Christ that?s bigger than anything on the field

Oh and while we?re at we?ll play quality baseball and crush

His baseball reputation speaks for itself and if you think his values wouldn?t play well in MS/AL/LA - well that speaks more about society than it does him

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All that is fine and good. And I'm glad that you like and respect him for those qualities. Seriously.

That being said, and no disrespect to him, I want a HC that prioritizes winning over proselytizing. Our next HC's only job is to win baseball games for MSU. Period.

As others have said, he's at the perfect place for his priorities and skills.

Holy Shit, this thread is going off the tracks.

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

Well how I read it was - yes he?s a Christian and uses his platform for Christ however he doesn?t do it in a way that is fire and brim stone

Speak truth
Speak wisdom
Speak love
Speak life

And if that brings someone to Christ that?s bigger than anything on the field

Oh and while we?re at we?ll play quality baseball and crush

His baseball reputation speaks for itself and if you think his values wouldn?t play well in MS/AL/LA - well that speaks more about society than it does him

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I would love it if he was our coach and I would hire him in a heartbeat.

I have no problem with Heefner's Christian approach, but he's required Bible study etc and that's cost him opportunities. Good for him he doesn't care and continues to do his thing. I just can't see a P4 program taking that risk from a lawsuit standpoint. We could do worse than him without a doubt. If we hired him, I'd be fine with it. I just don't think he falls into the realistic category.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I have no problem with Heefner's Christian approach, but he's required Bible study etc and that's cost him opportunities. Good for him he doesn't care and continues to do his thing. I just can't see a P4 program taking that risk from a lawsuit standpoint. We could do worse than him without a doubt. If we hired him, I'd be fine with it. I just don't think he falls into the realistic category.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

but he's required Bible study etc..

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I hear that's how Tony V built Tennessee into a monster***

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

All that is fine and good. And I'm glad that you like and respect him for those qualities. Seriously.

That being said, and no disrespect to him, I want a HC that prioritizes winning over proselytizing. His job is to win baseballs games for MSU. Period.

As others have said, he's at the perfect place for his priorities and skills.

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I know and agree with you that at the end of the day in big boy sports winning is numero 1

I just happen to think it could be both and done on the biggest stage

I just happen to view how he does things similar to what Saban talked about

There is a standard set by the coach
They practice and prepare to that standard
If all the guys buy in and do that,l and then play to that standard they have success - those that don?t weed themselves out

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I hear that's how Tony V built Tennessee into a monster***

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Tony V is a relentless recruiter who is married to baseball and is obsessed with winning. He's the Nick Saban of college baseball. Elander could be the Kirby Smart or he could be the Jeremy Pruitt.

Any way he?s not coming here - Bert has spoken

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

I know and agree with you that at the end of the day in big boy sports winning is numero 1

I just happen to think it could be both and done on the biggest stage

I just happen to view how he does things similar to what Saban talked about

There is a standard set by the coach
They practice and prepare to that standard
If all the guys buy in and do that,l and then play to that standard they have success - those that don?t weed themselves out

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And thats fair.

Here's my opinion:
Unrealistic:
Do I need to include Vitello? LOL obviously
Johnson- No interest/cost
Ming- Cost
Bakich- Cost
Heefner- Covered already

Realistic:
Pollard (maybe)
Wasikowski
Elander

Going to be more names

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Here's my opinion:
Unrealistic:
Do I need to include Vitello? LOL obviously
Johnson- No interest/cost
Ming- Cost
Bakich- Cost
Heefner- Covered already

Realistic:
Pollard (maybe)
Wasikowski
Elander

Going to be more names

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I would be pretty disappointed if it was Wasikowski. Fit is important. Pollard isn't realistic. So that leaves Elander.