Printable View
We also have way too many of some of the worst fans, especially of those who are active in the internet. We have a ton of fans who likely don't attend many games nor give much, but yet they are as negative as can be. In Oxford, they are pulling in the same direction and certainly not tearing their own program down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
That's because they have a fanbase and an athletic department that communicate and are on the same page.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
The disconnect with our athletic department coupled with weak leadership from previous administrations have gotten us to this point
Wait until they lose 2 more games and go 8-4 and get the Gator Bowl or the Outback Bowl. They will turn on Kiffin faster than you can say Hugh Freeze likes hookers!Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
We were 7-4 going into the season finale both of those years and were underdogs in the finale. Solid for sure, but not great in the yearly fcs era.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Look at soccer. And what happened with women's basketball. Even men's basketball has sold out season tickets.
We will support a winner.
And after going 2-10 this year, we will support and show up for a 7-5/8-4 when it comes back.
Half the fans are against paying players, and half are pissed off about everything else
We have been and always will be a very disjointed alumni and fan base, to many factions and egos jockeying for power and to prove just how big their dick is. From the Delta group that controlled things in the 40's and 50's that help run of our best ever coach to the various times throughout the decades that group from the coast, Jackson or north Mississippi that have fought for and at times gained control. Each group has pulled in its own direction to the detriment of the athletic department and the university as a whole. Our confederate brothers are able to get it together much more often than us for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
I think it's deeper than that. I think too many of our fans have "little brother" syndrome. When something goes wrong, our fans get angry, pout and lash out. Our fans point out the failings of our town and program to make themselves feel better, makes no sense to me. Instead of emphasizing the positive and minimizing the negative, we have too many that do the opposite. Right now there's not much to be positive about in regards to football, that doesn't mean go negative, we have a Sweet 16 basketball team, let's focus on that or focus on how well MVB looks as a true freshman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
You should have been in my career field. This is how these situations work. When things are good that's exactly how things are supposed to be and if anything is wrong it's completely 17ed up and so is everything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
So to kind of get the conversation back on track, I do believe all the things mentioned would help and I do believe the complete buy in starts with winning, but to just get people into the stadium(which we are having trouble doing now) it is going to take bells and whistles. I think you can almost tie it into the NIL conversation that our fans want something for what they're giving. Basically, if they're giving money, just saying it is for players is not enough. They want an experience or something tangible. I think the same principle will have to be applied to trying to get people to the game. Just coming to the game for a football game is not enough. You have to give them a light show, a drone show, something that they feel was worth their money they spent. Because right now it is obvious that people don't want to spend their money just to come to Starkville to watch the ballgame.
Hell, just look at the product presented at the Ark game. They couldn't even post scores for other games correctly. The atmosphere flat out sucked, the team sucked, the time of the game sucked, attendance sucked, the crappy country band they had playing before the game was so damn lame, didn't even see very many frats tailgating.
Most all of that other than the actual infield trash, was because we got assigned an early game. Kids went home, people didn't drive the early start. Too early to tailgate too. The school has put nothing into the stadium experience since Mullen left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckdog
Yeah, we should just keep taking shit from an athletic department and president that doesn't give two shits about the average fan, that'll solve the issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Please sir, can I have some more?
So that was the original question.....what can be done to get the average fan back in the stadium?Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachT14
The question your asking has been answered, which is win. If you win, the average fan will return.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Now, you may be asking how to do we get the casual fan to attend while we are rebuilding and the product on the field sucks... If so, then a light show or some other form of entertainment isn't going to work. Only hope is that lower ticket will help put people in seats. We have 7,000 coaching assistants - so you could put them in the stands then offer their sideline spots to paying customers.
Until people see real investment in the football program to get things on par with this conference you won't see anything change. A damn uniform change won't bring fans or make the team better, but we won't look like a bunch of poor asses getting shit off TEMU.
Lights and sound and premium amenities will get a few fans to the games and make the experience better, which can grow things. We are so far behind it's crazy.
But, in the end, winning cures more than anything.
Doesn't have to be tangible. Just needs to be a win and not equal to burning their money each snap. As long as it goes to a player that is making an impact on the field and he contributes to a....... WIN!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Ok so you get to see a drone show. :rolleyes: How many times is that entertaining to you? Would be a bathroom break for me personally after the first time. What gives you the idea that our admin would even mix it up at all if we did one? I'd be willing to bet if there was a drone show it would be the exact show every week. And honestly, is the a drone show even at the top of anyones list of highlights after a game whether we win or lose? Not trying to poop on the idea because it's something, it just seems like background noise.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Because the product on the field sucks and odds are very high they won't..... WIN!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
WE had two 5-7 seasons with Mullen along with a two 6-6 seasons. People still sold out the stadium. Same stadium too. I get we were winning a bit more but we were having sell outs. Moorhead went 8-4 his first year and 6-6 his second and the stadium was empty. Leach went 7-5 and 8-4 in his two seasons he was allowed to have crowds and the stadium was empty. So it's not winning or losing. It's something else. That's what I'm trying to figure out. I mean what constitutes the product being good or crappy? Because it's obviously not wins and losses so what is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Winning will bring current fans back to a point, but if you want to make it something that ?new? fans want to be apart of you have to make it fun and cool. We have to grow our football brand and make it something special. We did that with baseball, time to do it at football.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
What makes anyone thing we would sustain something like a drone show when we couldn't even keep Air Bully flyingQuote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...Sg&oe=6728568C
As you can see by this thread, we have fans that bitch about SOO much that I don't think we ever get it back. It's the ADs fault. It's the president's fault. The uniforms aren't maroon enough. The stripe on the left shoulder sucks. The stripe on the right shoulder sucks. We wear white pants. We wear gray pants. Dorman Hall is visible on TV. We don't have an completely enclosed end zone. Recruit x is a pre madonna. Player x is a pre madonna. We throw too much. We run too much. Our coach's hat is stupid. Our coach wears a hat. Our coach wears a sweatshirt. Our coach wear a short-sleeve shirt. The band sucks. The stadium DJ sucks. The ads suck. The concession suck. It's neverending and tiresome. Yet our boards, FB, Twitter, and other forms of social media are FILLED with MSU "fans" that want to spew this crap CONSTANTLYQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve