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09-23-2023, 10:00 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

If the defense tightens up we have a legit shot. The defense needs to be taken away from Brock.

They don't have the ability to tighten up bc they aren't sec talent level. Shit recruiting got us here
09-23-2023, 10:00 PM
civildawg

Defense couldn't stop a toddler but you're right, the routes were off there at the end. Tonight gave me a little hope with the step forward on offense but our defense is just so bad. Arnett needs to seriously consider taking over the playcalling
09-23-2023, 10:02 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by civildawg

Defense couldn't stop a toddler but you're right, the routes were off there at the end. Tonight gave me a little hope with the step forward on offense but our defense is just so bad. Arnett needs to seriously consider taking over the playcalling

If they score 40 a game, we have a shot at a bowl. You can scheme offense, but defense is talent... we have none
09-23-2023, 10:02 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by msstate7

They don't have the ability to tighten up bc they aren't sec talent level. Shit recruiting got us here

Glad we're spending our NIL on it, tho***
09-23-2023, 10:02 PM
Bothrops

We can't out portal anybody, we can't out recruit OM for Mississippi kids, and can't coach defense. We're ****ed in this sport.
09-23-2023, 10:02 PM
chef dixon

Of course Will did much better than he has, but he still has a lot of limitations and they were all on display late.

Defense was just shit. Looks like talent
09-23-2023, 10:02 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

He's why we had a chance to win.

Will from last week = we lose 45-10. OL couldn't run the ball at all. WRs outside of Tulu couldn't do their jobs. Defense was abysmal all round save a few possessions in the first half.

Will, Tulu, Special teams. Everyone else needs work
09-23-2023, 10:03 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I won't blame an offense for a loss when they put up over 500 yards and score 30. This is defense! This is on the previous staff for shit recruiting imo

If I had a major complaint about Leach this might be it.

And we still ain't making stud MS Dlinemen a high enough priority IMO.

But I also remember guys on recruiting thread saying we were recruiting good and getting all the main guys we wanted.
09-23-2023, 10:03 PM
TrapGame

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

They don't have the ability to tighten up bc they aren't sec talent level. Shit recruiting got us here

That may be true but Brock is not doing them any favors.
09-23-2023, 10:03 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We can't out portal anybody, we can't out recruit OM for Mississippi kids, and can't coach defense. We're ****ed in this sport.

In Jans we trust. Lemonis and arnett suck
09-23-2023, 10:04 PM
parabrave

tulu is the reason. No other receiver gives us a chance like him and they shut him down in the 4th. 88 shouldn't see the field again and 18 you did your best Franklin impression.
09-23-2023, 10:04 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We can't out portal anybody, we can't out recruit OM for Mississippi kids, and can't coach defense. We're ****ed in this sport.

I do not disagree that's the current situation. OM is Lane leaving away from irrelevance. We're an exciting coach away from being relevant to Portal and HS players. But for the moment, yeah it's looking bad
09-23-2023, 10:04 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I won't blame an offense for a loss when they put up over 500 yards and score 30. This is defense! This is on the previous staff for shit recruiting imo

Offense was better but they choked at the end.
09-23-2023, 10:05 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

I do not disagree that's the current situation. OM is Lane leaving away from irrelevance. We're an exciting coach away from being relevant to Portal and HS players. But for the moment, yeah it's looking bad

I agree with this.
09-23-2023, 10:05 PM
EdwardDrayton

Think that's eight of the last nine we've lost to SC?
09-23-2023, 10:06 PM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

If I had a major complaint about Leach this might be it.

And we still ain't making stud MS Dlinemen a high enough priority IMO.

But I also remember guys on recruiting thread saying we were recruiting good and getting all the main guys we wanted.

So what the 2 of you are saying is Arnett left our defense depleted.
09-23-2023, 10:07 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by msstate7

In Jans we trust. Lemonis and arnett suck

Recruiting is decent there but not moving the needle. However, Jans is a competitor and seems to be really good.
09-23-2023, 10:07 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Yeah will is the reason we are in the game

Totally agree.

If we had kept running the Barbay offense, we get blown out.

That was the air raid basically the last 3 quarters.

I just didn?t know that our defense was this bad. I mean, it?s not good.
09-23-2023, 10:09 PM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Totally agree.

If we had kept running the Barbay offense, we get blown out.

That was the air raid basically the last 3 quarters.

I just didn?t know that our defense was this bad. I mean, it?s not good.

With a mix of 12 personnel that we should not be running because we don;t have the TEs..
09-23-2023, 10:09 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Glad we're spending our NIL on it, tho***

We spent our NIL to keep this shit

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