THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

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08-06-2019, 09:34 AM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by Jarius

If boosters in Philadelphia, MS can't get a kid to go to either State or OM, it simply isn't in the cards. Hell they got CJ Johnson to go to Ole Miss after they ripped a lanyard off his ass and told him to sit TF down during the Egg Bowl. Some kids just want to go elsewhere, and if they are good enough our boosters won't be the only ones offering.

Jarquez is a great kid & a great player but the closest people in his life aren't MSU fans to say the least.
08-06-2019, 09:34 AM
Ifyouonlyknew

I know this is the 2020 recruiting thread but some big 2021 news should be going down later this week.
08-06-2019, 09:57 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I know this is the 2020 recruiting thread but some big 2021 news should be going down later this week.

Anything you want to post on here is fine with me, IYOK. You always bring pertinent information on any post you make. I imagine that many others will agree.
08-06-2019, 10:19 AM
BankerDog

We get Quincy Brown to go along with Smith with a good chance of getting Hartman..that will be our greatest WR haul in history. I love the way Joe is recruiting.
08-06-2019, 10:32 AM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

We get Quincy Brown to go along with Smith with a good chance of getting Hartman..that will be our greatest WR haul in history. I love the way Joe is recruiting.

Hartman?
08-06-2019, 10:55 AM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Hartman?

Think he means Harmon. I don't get a good vibe with him right now. Still a long ways until next year, but right now, I think Ole Miss has the edge.
08-06-2019, 10:58 AM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

We get Quincy Brown to go along with Smith with a good chance of getting Hartman..that will be our greatest WR haul in history. I love the way Joe is recruiting.

Quincy Brown would be HUGE. Next year's WR class is legit, and we should get our fair share
08-06-2019, 11:05 AM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Think he means Harmon. I don't get a good vibe with him right now. Still a long ways until next year, but right now, I think Ole Miss has the edge.

Oh ok yea you're probably right. For the record I think Harmon ends up a Flex TE.
08-06-2019, 11:36 AM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Oh ok yea you're probably right. For the record I think Harmon ends up a Flex TE.

I do too.

I will say that if Jacob Peeler were to leave OM, our chances of getting Harmon would increase. Peeler is also from Kosciusko and is a hell of a recruiter. I wish we could get him on our staff.
08-06-2019, 01:08 PM
BankerDog

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Oh ok yea you're probably right. For the record I think Harmon ends up a Flex TE.

That?s the name. Next year?s in-state WR Corp is ridiculous
08-06-2019, 02:37 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

That?s the name. Next year?s in-state WR Corp is ridiculous

Yes it is very good.
08-06-2019, 03:12 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Quincy Brown would be HUGE. Next year's WR class is legit, and we should get our fair share

It would be, but what about LSU?
08-06-2019, 03:36 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

It would be, but what about LSU?

LSU can't sign every good player from Louisiana.
08-06-2019, 03:51 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

It would be, but what about LSU?

They have a few guys higher on their board than Brown I believe.

Out of the top 10 2021 players in Louisiana, 6 are WRs. They can't take them all.
08-06-2019, 04:07 PM
jacksondawg

Louisiana has a solid crop of wr as well especially in the New Orleans area
08-06-2019, 05:35 PM
msbulldog

We're going too have a great crop of WR's too. LSU and others will be heavy in Louisiana and here. I think we have a good chance at Brown, since his good friend is our Quinten Torbor. We should be able to get him on campus a lot visiting his buddy.
08-06-2019, 05:43 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Forbes won?t be settled until signing day.. no matter what happens between now and then.
Saying that I had rather be us then them right now.

Beer talking... NVMD
08-06-2019, 05:47 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I know this is the 2020 recruiting thread but some big 2021 news should be going down later this week.

Post away!!
08-06-2019, 09:29 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I do too.

I will say that if Jacob Peeler were to leave OM, our chances of getting Harmon would increase. Peeler is also from Kosciusko and is a hell of a recruiter. I wish we could get him on our staff.

You and me both.
08-08-2019, 02:27 PM
ZedFedder

247 released their first rankings (top 100) of the 2022 class. Two MS athletes on there at #8 (Khamauri Rogers) and #81 (Jaheim Oatis). Also, Ty Simpson is #57 whose dad played here. I know we are recruiting him hard.
08-08-2019, 04:00 PM
BankerDog

Shazz Preston also made that 2022 list. His brother, Shawn, plays here. Shawn will be big time eventually but Shazz is big time now.
08-08-2019, 04:18 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Shazz Preston also made that 2022 list. His brother, Shawn, plays here. Shawn will be big time eventually but Shazz is big time now.

I expect Shazz to end up at LSU.
08-10-2019, 03:18 PM
NickoeWatersHedges

Mckinnley Jackson released his top 5 and we aren't in it. I have followed his process from a distance but I wonder with our track record of DLineman why we cant even get him on campus? Lucedale is closer to Starkville than Oxford. Is there a reason for absolutely zero intrigue from him?
08-10-2019, 03:21 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by NickoeWatersHedges

Mckinnley Jackson released his top 5 and we aren't in it. I have followed his process from a distance but I wonder with our track record of DLineman why we cant even get him on campus? Lucedale is closer to Starkville than Oxford. Is there a reason for absolutely zero intrigue from him?

I think it's because we have zero intrigue in him.
08-10-2019, 03:30 PM
1bigdawg

Everyone asks about McKinley Jackson, but what about Josiah Hayes. Did either party ever have an interest?
08-10-2019, 03:41 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by NickoeWatersHedges

Mckinnley Jackson released his top 5 and we aren't in it. I have followed his process from a distance but I wonder with our track record of DLineman why we cant even get him on campus? Lucedale is closer to Starkville than Oxford. Is there a reason for absolutely zero intrigue from him?

He?s really backed up. Not worth the hassle. Our commit from Waynesboro is the best DL in Mississippi

I?m not totally sure he has a commitable offer from 4 of the 5 schools he listed
08-10-2019, 03:55 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

He?s really backed up. Not worth the hassle. Our commit from Waynesboro is the best DL in Mississippi

I?m not totally sure he has a commitable offer from 4 of the 5 schools he listed

Ok. Sure he's rated #1 by 247 and composite in Mississippi, but sure, our guy is better even though he's #19 in state by 247 and #28 composite. Now you bitch about recruiting rankings, but throw em out the window here... which is it? Do you trust em or are you a homer?
08-10-2019, 03:58 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Ok. Sure he's rated #1 by 247 and composite in Mississippi, but sure, our guy is better even though he's #19 in state by 247 and #28 composite. Now you bitch about recruiting rankings, but throw em out the window here... which is it? Do you trust em or are you a homer?

I trust them more after their SR season. We’ll see where they both end up
08-10-2019, 04:01 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I trust them more after their SR season. We’ll see where they both end up

I haven't saw either guy play, so I'm not saying you're wrong. I just hate it when we want the 4-stars as rated, and complain when we don't get them, but also completely throw the ratings out sometimes.
08-10-2019, 04:05 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I haven't saw either guy play, so I'm not saying you're wrong. I just hate it when we want the 4-stars as rated, and complain when we don't get them, but also completely throw the ratings out sometimes.

Cooley is currently ranked an 85 and Jackson is a 94. My guess is that ends up around a 90 and Cooley an 89 or so
08-10-2019, 04:05 PM
msstate7

For the record, I'll go with the higher rated composite guy every time. Sure, I'll be wrong more than once, but I think over the long haul, I'll be right
08-10-2019, 04:19 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by msstate7

For the record, I'll go with the higher rated composite guy every time. Sure, I'll be wrong more than once, but I think over the long haul, I'll be right

Jackson was ranked very high at first because he was simply bigger than everyone else he played against. Then, everyone caught up with him. He's also shown up to some camps out of shape, which has caused his ranking to drop. I'm not saying you're wrong about getting higher ranked guys, or that Cooley is better than him. But our staff has not really pushed for him. Do with that what you will
08-10-2019, 05:12 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

He?s really backed up. Not worth the hassle. Our commit from Waynesboro is the best DL in Mississippi

I?m not totally sure he has a commitable offer from 4 of the 5 schools he listed

He will got to Alabama or LSU and be stud. He is on a dead team right now and plays when he wants too. He is allowed to be lazy at GC. But when he decides he wants to play he is the best DL in the state. Extremely disruptive
08-10-2019, 05:13 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by msstate7

For the record, I'll go with the higher rated composite guy every time. Sure, I'll be wrong more than once, but I think over the long haul, I'll be right

You know how I feel about recruiting rankings, they are extremely flawed BUT, I think this is a case where you will be right. I dont know enough about Cooley to say anything but Jackson is legit when he wants to play. If he was at a better program this wouldnt even be a discussion.
08-10-2019, 05:15 PM
Cooterpoot

Jackson has some issues. Not saying he?s not talented. Cooley will be a NFL draft pick.
08-10-2019, 05:23 PM
BankerDog

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

You know how I feel about recruiting rankings, they are extremely flawed BUT, I think this is a case where you will be right. I dont know enough about Cooley to say anything but Jackson is legit when he wants to play. If he was at a better program this wouldnt even be a discussion.

Quay and Nick James both had talent when they wanted to play but it was harder for the coaches to get them to play. He won?t be at Bama or LSU. His daddy blew those chances. He?ll go to Ole Miss and won?t live up to the billing that they?ll promote.

The only DL over the last ten years I wish we could?ve gotten that went to OM was Benito Jones. And we could?ve had him.
08-10-2019, 05:40 PM
msbulldog

If our coaches wanted Jackson they would be recruiting him harder!
08-10-2019, 08:03 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Quay and Nick James both had talent when they wanted to play but it was harder for the coaches to get them to play. He won?t be at Bama or LSU. His daddy blew those chances. He?ll go to Ole Miss and won?t live up to the billing that they?ll promote.

The only DL over the last ten years I wish we could?ve gotten that went to OM was Benito Jones. And we could?ve had him.

That's pretty much how it's going to go down.
08-10-2019, 08:05 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by 1bigdawg

Everyone asks about McKinley Jackson, but what about Josiah Hayes. Did either party ever have an interest?

I don't believe so. Hayes is better than Jackson FWIW.

I like our d-line class with Banks and Cooley. Especially when you pair them with the guys we got last year in Russell and Pickering.
08-10-2019, 08:06 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

For the record, I'll go with the higher rated composite guy every time. Sure, I'll be wrong more than once, but I think over the long haul, I'll be right

Over the long haul yes- but not in this situation.

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