Football Transfer Portal Thread

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Originally Posted by ZedFedder

How are things looking with Seaton? Any word?

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He will be at Oregon on Monday.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

The Tigahs are reportedly spending 7.5 million on their QB room alone. So could that play into our favor in this situation?

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I think the issue for LSU will be what they already have. At tackle, LSU has Weston Davis, Devin Harper, Sean Thompkins, JaKolby Jones, Darrin Strey and others who are all slated to compete for playing time. Davis and Thompkins have experience. Davis hit the portal, but they paid him well to stay.

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

The projecting is quite enlightening. I?ve worked for the university all but 2 years of Keenum?s tenure. People change and he is not the leader of 2009-2019 you still believe him to be in your little fantasy world. The lose if the R1 in 2015 was the start. He got it back which was great but that started a lot of doubt in high ranking individuals

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I don?t believe in anyone, I just get it that leadership is placed and $$$ controls them. These admin guys are playing the game for funding until the next guy does the same. Until our people get together and stop 17ing each other for a portion of political control we will continue to be what we are. Controlled, ignorant and divided, bitching and fixing blame everywhere but where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

If what you're saying is true about being the highest bidder (not saying I don't believe you) then that makes me smile a little. I'm happy to see that we aren't afraid to throw some money around. We have been known since forever ago to let others outbid us. Even if we don't get him, if we are a top 3 bidder then that's a big win and a step in the right direction imo. And as other have said, Mississippi State has been posted on every major recruiting outlet since he came to visit. Keep doing this and some chips will eventually fall our way.

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Concur...and imagine what kinda players will be able to get once we start showing that we actually have a pulse on the field! 7-8 wins next year, with the amount of money that we now have to spend would be a game changer for the the future!

Anyone know where this money is coming from to write Seaton a blank check? I knew we had more than many were led to believe based on the product last 2 years, but on the flip side I didn't realize we had enough to get into an open check bidding war with Oregon, LSU, and Miami. Is this a one year thing we have found, or do we have the infrastructure in place to spend top 15 money of all P4 programs on football year over year? I'd be shocked if the latter but also thrilled for the future.

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Anyone know where this money is coming from to write Seaton a blank check? I knew we had more than many were led to believe based on the product last 2 years, but on the flip side I didn't realize we had enough to get into an open check bidding war with Oregon, LSU, and Miami. Is this a one year thing we have found, or do we have the infrastructure in place to spend top 15 money of all P4 programs on football year over year? I'd be shocked if the latter but also thrilled for the future.

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One major purchase isn't the same as being top 15. 4 million is a long ways from 50 million spent by some. But I believe we will have enough at this point to buy the critical pieces year after year

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

One major purchase isn't the same as being top 15. 4 million is a long ways from 50 million spent by some. But I believe we will have enough at this point to buy the critical pieces year after year

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I can?t imagine 35M wouldn?t be top 15 and if we are willing to write a blank check for a LT I gotta imagine we are hitting that this year

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Anyone know where this money is coming from to write Seaton a blank check? I knew we had more than many were led to believe based on the product last 2 years, but on the flip side I didn't realize we had enough to get into an open check bidding war with Oregon, LSU, and Miami. Is this a one year thing we have found, or do we have the infrastructure in place to spend top 15 money of all P4 programs on football year over year? I'd be shocked if the latter but also thrilled for the future.

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Great question and hopefully someone can answer it for us. In my mind it's like the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire. Can we spend consistently with the big boys or is this just a special occasion that we can do every few years? I'd be shocked too if we can consistently. Also thrilled. But there are some big, big time players out there. And after Mark Cuban has helped turn Indiana around.. some more might come out of hiding to help their programs. I don't know if we have any but I damn sure hope we do.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

I think the issue for LSU will be what they already have. At tackle, LSU has Weston Davis, Devin Harper, Sean Thompkins, JaKolby Jones, Darrin Strey and others who are all slated to compete for playing time. Davis and Thompkins have experience. Davis hit the portal, but they paid him well to stay.

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Strey - He redshirted
Harper - Barely Played special teams - played mop up duty.
Thompkins - Started 5 games at Baylor
Jakolby - He was at JUCO last year
Weston Davis - Started at RT on the worst LSU offensive line i've ever witnessed.

To say that 'playing time' could be an issue for Seaton because of this group of OL, is just garbage. He would be LSU's LT next year - without even a slight debate.

Honestly, LSU's OL recruiting has been pretty shit compared to what they have been spending elsewhere.

They have signed 9 Wr's. They will play at most 4-5.

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Anyone know where this money is coming from to write Seaton a blank check? I knew we had more than many were led to believe based on the product last 2 years, but on the flip side I didn't realize we had enough to get into an open check bidding war with Oregon, LSU, and Miami. Is this a one year thing we have found, or do we have the infrastructure in place to spend top 15 money of all P4 programs on football year over year? I'd be shocked if the latter but also thrilled for the future.

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I believe we finally got some of our NFL guys to "pony up".... We've got 5 or more of the higher paid NFL player in the league..... Jones,Simmons, Dak,Cross.... ??

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Anyone know where this money is coming from to write Seaton a blank check? I knew we had more than many were led to believe based on the product last 2 years, but on the flip side I didn't realize we had enough to get into an open check bidding war with Oregon, LSU, and Miami. Is this a one year thing we have found, or do we have the infrastructure in place to spend top 15 money of all P4 programs on football year over year? I'd be shocked if the latter but also thrilled for the future.

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Look - we have had the money. The issue isn't money - it is convincing a kid like Seaton to come play on a team that has won 1 - O-N-E SEC game the last two years to come to MSU.

He can go to LSU, Oregon, Texas, Miami or really anywhere else he wants - and make whatever we are offering him. So it comes down to his desire to be on a winning team, and relationships.

If relationships matter more than winning, we have a legit shot.

As I have said before, we have paid big money to keep guys and go out and get a few guys. I've been told we have overpaid on the young OL that we have signed. If this works out, no one cares. If it doesn't, people are going to wonder why we didn't sign more experienced guys.

The reason the bears have been able to sign high profile guys from the portal isn't just kiffin, its the fact that they have been winning for a while. We have to start winning so we can spend 1 million on a difference maker, as opposed to 1 million on two guys we hope can play.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Look - we have had the money. The issue isn't money - it is convincing a kid like Seaton to come play on a team that has won 1 - O-N-E SEC game the last two years to come to MSU.

He can go to LSU, Oregon, Texas, Miami or really anywhere else he wants - and make whatever we are offering him. So it comes down to his desire to be on a winning team, and relationships.

If relationships matter more than winning, we have a legit shot.

As I have said before, we have paid big money to keep guys and go out and get a few guys. I've been told we have overpaid on the young OL that we have signed. If this works out, no one cares. If it doesn't, people are going to wonder why we didn't sign more experienced guys.

The reason the bears have been able to sign high profile guys from the portal isn't just kiffin, it?s the fact that they have been winning for a while. We have to start winning so we can spend 1 million on a difference maker, as opposed to 1 million on two guys we hope can play.

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Appreciate the reply but my question is more over sustainability YoY not just Seaton. I don?t believe we had the ability to write a blank check for 1 player in 2023.

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Originally Posted by BorneDawg

I believe we finally got some of our NFL guys to "pony up".... We've got 5 or more of the higher paid NFL player in the league..... Jones,Simmons, Dak,Cross.... ??

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Could be it. Gotta keep putting players in the league then to continue with that

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

Great question and hopefully someone can answer it for us. In my mind it's like the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire. Can we spend consistently with the big boys or is this just a special occasion that we can do every few years? I'd be shocked too if we can consistently. Also thrilled. But there are some big, big time players out there. And after Mark Cuban has helped turn Indiana around.. some more might come out of hiding to help their programs. I don't know if we have any but I damn sure hope we do.

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Word on some of the pay boards is that Selmon has done a great job of getting our NFL Dawgs involved in a major way. Hail State! Edit: Didn't see BourneDawg post regarding this, (Have to spread rep....).

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Appreciate the reply but my question is more over sustainability YoY not just Seaton. I don?t believe we had the ability to write a blank check for 1 player in 2023.

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We had the ability, but didn't have the buy in from the fan base and the big boosters. Cohen spent the better part of two years telling them they didn't need to donate to football NIL and we needed to focus on baseball. Kept telling people Leach didn't need much money to win.....because he was telling Leach we didn't have any money.

Ability and funds is never the problem, we have enough to keep it rolling just like OM. It's buy in.

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Word on some of the pay boards is that Selmon has done a great job of getting our NFL Dawgs involved in a major way. Hail State!

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They were already involved. Most of them just don't want it publicized. We have a couple that have probably given over 10 million in the last 3-4 years.

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Could be it. Gotta keep putting players in the league then to continue with that

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This and our NFL guys who have signed record contracts at their positions are mostly Mullen guys who are reaching the end of their careers in the coming years. We have to start winning to turn things around to get better players, Catch 22.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We had the ability, but didn't have the buy in from the fan base and the big boosters. Cohen spent the better part of two years telling them they didn't need to donate to football NIL and we needed to focus on baseball. Kept telling people Leach didn't need much money to win.....because he was telling Leach we didn't have any money.

Ability and funds is never the problem, we have enough to keep it rolling just like OM. It's buy in.

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and to add, Leach didn't like paying players, At all........... didn't believe in it in any way.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We had the ability, but didn't have the buy in from the fan base and the big boosters. Cohen spent the better part of two years telling them they didn't need to donate to football NIL and we needed to focus on baseball. Kept telling people Leach didn't need much money to win.....because he was telling Leach we didn't have any money.

Ability and funds is never the problem, we have enough to keep it rolling just like OM. It's buy in.

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I really don’t understand why this is so hard for people to understand.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

and to add, Leach didn't like paying players, At all........... didn't believe in it in any way.

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This. He would never have worked out in the NIL era. He would have retired.