Yeah, I saw that! "It just means more."Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
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Yeah, I saw that! "It just means more."Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I read comments like this and start laughing. Maybe I said it wrong because no one really knows what their athletic budget is because they are private. I do know this, they have plenty of money. They can spend it like they choose to spend it. But if they decide to get serious about football, they can pay as much or more than we can for a HC. Probably more. Their facilities are nicer than ours. Their IPF is top notch. Doesn't look like our trailer trash Mississippi building.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Some of you have tunnel vision. There's actually some nice places outside the SEC believe it or not.
No I think it is just the 5 highest ranked conference champions and then 7 at large.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
So if the PAC 12 survives by adding mountain west teams, they would be included. Of course that new version of the PAC12 essentially will be a G5 conference. Good for Oregon State, they could have an easy path.
Would y'all rather have Odom with Marion as his OC or Chadwell?
I'd prefer chadwell, but I wouldn't hate OdomQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Can't find it now, but I think I saw something about Marion is being pursued by Penn State
I would imagine if we take Odom, UNLV thinks hard about offering the HC job to MarionQuote:
Originally Posted by DesotoDog1967
If Marion doesn't come with Odom, do y'all still want Odom?
Heck noQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
If he brings someone like Lebby with him yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I am not necessarily out, but it would have to be a heck of an OC hire. His OC hire of Derek Dooley is what sank him at Mizzou.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Odom has hired 3 OCs in his HC career: Josh heupel, Derek Dooley, and Marion. Maybe he has an eye for offensive coaches. Dooley was quite good in 2018; mizzou finished #3 in sec in total offense
How is this even a question? A guy who's won big at 4 different schools vs. a guy who got fired by Missouri after going 13-19 in the SEC EastQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
UNLV was one of my win total over picks this year. And I've had them most weeks on teasers. But the last two weeks I sat down and watched the full game. (Well as full as you can when you have 4-6 screens going this past weekend).Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
It really is quality. I think I posted the excerpt from an article about his offense preseason, but man it just WORKS. I think if Odom leaves he becomes a HC at UNLV. So I'd rather hire someone else and throw 2+ million at him to be our OC. It's worth it.
I agree with youQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Well I would rather have Kyle Shanahan or Mike McDaniel if we just ask who would we rather have. But you have to look at things from a realistic and financial point of view:Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Is Chadwell attainable? I think he is for the right price. What is that price? Probably around 6.25-6.75 with bonuses that take it over 7. Add into that a buyout that is somewhere between 4-12 mil. Add into that hiring a staff, which is probably another 5-6 mil. So at that point you are in it for somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-30 mil. You better be damn sure in the guy that has never coached at the P5 level to make that kind of investment.
Now for Odom: I think you could probably get him for 5.5-6. His buyout is somewhere around 3-4 mil and you would give him probably 5-6 mil for assistants. So you are probably in that hire to the tune of 13-16 million. Now, I know Barry Odom has done it at the P5 level and I know if I give him enough money for an OC, he can go hire a top of the line OC because he has done it before. I take Odom over Chadwell
You could get Chadwell for about $3mm more total. That's way better than a .500 SEC coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I would take Chadwell over Odom also. Who knows what we will get but I'm thinking by this time next week we will know,Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Again that may be true. And we have some heavy hitter boosters who are hellbent on Jamey Chadwell so it is not going to be a financial thing. I am just giving my point of view on it if I was doing the hiring and had the money. Chadwell scares me. That offense scares me because we are not good enough to run it right now and impact lineman in the portal are a rarity and you have to win the trenches for that offense to be remotely successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
If you're gonna go apples to apples, here's both's record in G5...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Chadwell 50-22 (.694)
Odom 9-2 (.818)
They're both 46, so it's hard to give chadwell credit for not being as successful as Odom earlier in their careers. By successful, I mean Odom was a sec coach at 41 (pretty young).
ETA... Odom's 1st 2 years at Missouri, he was 11-14. The same 2 years, chadwell was 10-13 at Charleston southern and coastal Carolina
And BTW, you wanna know why hot young coaches are hesitant about our job, just look here... posters here consider coaches killing G5 as better than .500 coaches in sec play. Odom is proving he can dominate G5 alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The only reason I would be halfway open to the idea of Odom is that he's shown he's committed to having good offenses.
PPG at Mizzou:
2016: 31.4 (48th of 128)
2017: 37.5 (14th of 130)
2018: 36.6 (18th of 130)
2019: 25.3 (93rd of 130)
PPG at UNLV:
36.0 (19th of 133)
So outside of his last year at Mizzou, the dude has fielded good offenses. He also has shown the ability to hire solid offensive coordinators in Josh Heupel (2016-17) and Brennan Marion at UNLV who appears to be a rising star in the industry.
He's not my top choice or even in my top tier, but I'd prefer him over guys like Doeren, Fritz, Sumrall, etc.
Okay, what's up with this Chip Kelly bullshit I'm hearing?
That's it. I'm tapping out. I'm done.
I'd take him over OdomQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Doubt he'd come here at his age. I don't think he deserves to be fired at uclaQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
This entire thread is depressing.
I think they were ready to fire him and then he drummed USC so they are they are rethinking it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Name the source or get off my lawn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Odom would be a disappointing hire.
First I've heard of this. Where are you hearing that?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I thought so too at first. The more I looked into his career, I think he's solid. Not a flashy hire by any means, but solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
The more you look at it, and given he brings the OC with him and can get a good staff, we could do worse than Odom. He should be a solid plan C or so if he can get all that done
Another board throwing out smoke like Casey Jone's doomed train.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Needless to say, if we can get off the pocket book and make an exciting, splashy hire, we need to do it in the worst way. A hire like Odom will be very meh to all of the state fans I know in NE MS. Going to take a lot to remove the apathy and lack of hope in my area. Firing ZA was a start in the right direction, now show we are serious about football in the SEC with this hire.
He would be a safe hire. We could do worse. If he brings in his OC from UNLV that's a big plus. I think some folks might start realizing Sam Pittman's success at Arkansas was predicated on using Odom's knowledge as a former head coach. There has been a significant drop off in coaching since Odom and Briles left.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
We definitely need to swing for the fences. Odom should be plan C or D at bestQuote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Hmmm not sure I'd even call that a solid hire at this point but still need to watch some more of his game tape to look at in-game adjustments and game planning. On the other measurement criteria he seems very mediocre.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Wait for it folks ........... I agree with you Bucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Lol!! It's a miracle!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Yes, think so too but truly there are several better choices that we're capable of pulling. But will we do what is necessary. That's always been the question with our hires.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking