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Originally Posted by Homedawg
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This is true, unfortunately! SmhQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Starting to remind me of the villagers chasing Frankensteins monster with the pitch forks! The crowd grew as they went.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
YEP!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
This is the most disastrous thing we have done. That includes Croom and Ray. Look how long it took the basketball team to bounce back.
Lol. Very true!Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Hahahaha!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
One thing I do agree with Hadad on, Andy Staples didn't just randomly decide to send a FOIA request to MSU for Arnett's contract. Someone put that bug in his ear.
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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Now Tom Luginbill is on the radio, insinuating with a careful choice of words, that we really ****ed up hiring Arnett and that he's not ready for a head coaching job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
Yeah, when contract details get out like this there is talk already. Which is a good sign that Selmon maybe already preparing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
We did. He is way in over his head.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
What show was he on?
Are you kidding me? Did you even watch that game? We got lucky with him falling short of the 1st down. Now if we had actually sacked him like we were attempting to do multiple times with multiple people, yet kept missing, then I would say our defense showed that we could stop them. However, he was short by like an inch. If they had gotten that 1st down, you're saying with total confidence that we still would have won that game? Our defense can't stop shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Also, I'm not pushing an agenda. I can see where this is going and can voice my opinion that we will suck and continue to suck.
SEC Radio yesterday afternoon. It may have been Finebaum or the show just before his.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Nope not saying we were for sure winning the game. However, even if he got the first down the follow it had to happen for us to lose. They had to score. Kick an xp to go to another ot. Or make rhe 2 pt to win. Then if they tie they have to score then stop us. Again yes would MIGHT would have lost. But either you don't understand probability or you're just being stubborn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
Yeah, for that game they had a higher probability of turning it over again than scoring that last possession. They turned it over 5 times on 11 previous possessions, scored 4 times on 11 previous possessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Here's my big concern over making a coaching change. Is Selmon going to have carte blanche over the hire, or are we going to see the same people that essentially forced the change from the Air Raid by bringing back Brad Peterson and his buddies make the decision? Because if it is Selmon that has carte blanche, then that likely opens up some possible hires that the "We can only play one way at Mississippi State" folks wouldn't look at. If it is the folks that wanted Brad Peterson back and to do away with the Air Raid, then we will likely end up with Joe Judge.
Brackey and Dr Keenum made those decisions last time because we didn't have an AD. Selmon seems like the type of guy who would say, you hired me to run the department, so let me run the department. On another note, Lemonis better buckle down now that Selmon has gotten settled in.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
JMO, but I would be willing to bet that Selmon gets free reign to make the next hire. Obvious reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I'm glad you can make shit up.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I mean, the man who hired Leach was the exact same person who was going to hire Judge. There is not this big shadow conspiracyQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
The boosters may have some input because some of it is their money but Selmon will make the decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Compare the Arnett coaching search to any other coaching search MSU has had and it will show the influence of an AD. The only other staff that this one is similar to is Felker.
You can thank Jared Benko for Leach.
Ummm, do you have any idea who all was on the search committee? Like the ones that went to visit w him? Just curious. And I can assure benko wasn't calling any shots then.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Hopefully Selmon will get to make the hire without any interference. He has the proper respect for Mike Leach. He?s been around the Air Raid at Oklahoma. He?s been around Lincoln Riley and Bob Stoops, who brought the Air Raid to Oklahoma when he hired Mike Leach.
That's fine. I don't care if we hire a from the air raid tree. Leach is the only one who threw it that much anyway. But they don't have to run it. That's your problem, you don't care if we win as long as we run the damn AR!! Mind boggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Someone posted CZA is our Matt Luke. If we got 4-8 with a Croom like loss in the EGG, do we have the guts, $, and intelligence at the top levels of our administration to pull the trigger and find our Kiffin? Stadium will be half filled Saturday.
Who started the rumor that Brad Peterson is running the football program and calling all the shots? And why did they start said rumor?
It shouldn't even take that bad to fire Arnett. I would say 6-6 (regardless of the Egg Bowl result) is the minimum for him to come back next year, period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Some of it is the optics on the sideline every week.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
That's never been his stance. His stance has always been that it's the best system for MSU. I could be wrong, but that's all I have seen and remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Well, there is smoke. Looks like a "What we are hearing" topic where the writer is saying the contract Andy Staples releases was correct but all sources say that we are retaining Arnett.
Who is going to say we fire Arnett before even the halfway mark in the season? No damn bodyQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
But he would never lie....... or get it wrong....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
agree. Also, "What we are hearing", sounds like "what the university is telling me to say"Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Nope. Best period. All teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I believe we do. We definitely have the money. Larger issue is who we replace them with- but I have confidence in Selmon until proven otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
I would fire him for 6-6 with an Egg Bowl win but we all know that won't happen. 6-6 with this team is massively underachieving. This should be a 9-10 win season with competent coaching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
The why is because we need to know who the culprits are so we can fix the program. I'm not sure that Peterson intended to have this much influence though. We're stuck with a coach in over his head who is relying heavily on advice from a guy whose experience is no higher than the high school level. This is all setting up to explain to fans "why" we might have to move on from Arnett after the season which leads me to...Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Exactly. As I said before- I wouldn't believe it if someone told me that at this point even if it was Selmon or Keenum telling it to my face. Still too much season left at this point. It is still conceivable that we could turn this season around. That said- it is interesting that this buyout info came out when it did. It just so happened at a time when we had fans talking about how we had to give Arnett 2-3 years because of a massive buyout that MSU couldn't afford. Which was causing decreased fan morale and it was also causing an extreme lack of confidence in MSU at the administrative level. I didn't know the details of his buyout until this came out but I did know that it wasn't the same as the full value of the entire contract. That would be incredibly insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Yeah there have been quite a few people including Jean34 crowing about how the buyout was the full amount; blah, blah, blah. We've gotta keep him cause it's too high for Poor Ole State to pay anyway. As someone else has pointed out, the buyout is structured to where we pay less to fire him this year than next year. Someone, Keenum, Bracky, whomever saw through the facade early. The way that buyout is structured you can't convince me otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Ok. For me, I believe that to not be true. Some teams have the ability with NIL and prestige. TAMU with NIL, BAMA with prestige. How many times has Saban changed the offense? He can put in most systems and neverdrop off in recruitment. TAMU can suck, but they are still going to pay players a crap ton of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
MSU can not compete with NIL dollars from other schools. Name the uber wealthy people that is tied to MSU? Art Williams? Has he ever given to MSU? He's given to Liberty U. Purchased sports teams...etc. Arkansas has more access to dollars than we do.
So why run a system that will need the same type of QB/Wr/RB/OL/TE as everybody else who is going to get the people they want and we are down the list.
There is a reason why our WR room is packed with 4 star WRs and why it attracted 4 star running back Marks. There is a reason we had 3 4 star QBs that lit it up in HS. Because a QB wants to be show cased, that means attempts. A WR wants to get thrown to. That means attempts. A RB wants to learn how to catch for the NFL.
The NFL is reducing the role of a RB in rushing. The Cowboys(1989) received NINE picks (including three first-round selections) and five players from the Vikings for Herschel Walker. Steelers GM Omar Khan pointed to massive new QB contracts as a reason why RBs are becoming devalued. To his point, the RB franchise tag is worth less now ($10.09 million) than it was in 2015 ($10.95 million) while every other position, including QB ($18.5 million to $32.4 million) has gone up significantly. That's with a salary cap increase from $143 million to $225 million in that span.
Only three RBs accounted for at least 30 percent of their team's scrimmage yards in 2022: Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs and Christian McCaffrey. That number was 12 in 2000. They are getting less touches and they are not a productive in rushing. RB isn't a premium position in a passing league. Those positions would be the players who throw the ball (QB), catch the ball (WR).
Sum it up, RBs have to be a receiving weapon in the NFL. It's Why Marks came here. Stop trying to put the same system in that puts us at yet another disadvantage.
Black Sails you just wrote novel when all he was stating it has been KB's stance on the AR.
Marks committed to Moorhead not Leach.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I did :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Like I said, there is a reason we are now chasing 3 star QBs that not many other teams are really pushing for. The top 3 QBs in the nation are going to other SEC schools. Out of the 22 5/4 star QBs, we got none. 4 AR schools did. WRs... Even TT got their 5 star.
Yep, and of those RBs, McCaffrey gets a good portion of his numbers via the passing game for the 49ers. I think he had somewhere around 52 receptions in 11 games last year. 38% of his total yards came via the passing game, and that was on around 24% of his touches. Look at how Miami is using Devon Achane.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg