Please stop testing athletes for Covid

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Some of you guys need to save yourself the energy of arguing. If by now someone doesn't question the agenda behind the vaccine along with not understanding that the vaccine does not slow the spread or effect your ability to spread the virus, that person cannot be helped. They are the sheep and you are wasting your time and energy arguing with them.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Well said, sir. It?s kind of mind blowing that people are still trusting anything the government is telling us at this point.

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Never trust the government! But whoever the hell you are trusting with your info is sure as hell doing you wrong, sheep.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Well said, sir. It?s kind of mind blowing that people are still trusting anything the government is telling us at this point.

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If the common people knew the ag chemicals (my field) that have been FDA approved and how their approval came about, they would quit eating a lot of foods and never trust the government again.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

This post may be the peak of irony on this whole board.

As I said earlier, if the vaccine doesn't work, it's the most magical placebo in human history, something totally without precedent or explanation.

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Does this shot provide immunity?

Does this shot require more than one? Even two? Wait? now 3rd & 4th booster shots? Knowing this, only a sheep would have confidence that this shot is working.

You?re getting your information by trusting the most corrupt governments in World history.

You?re trusting a government that has suppressed CURES in order to sell vaccines.

You?re trusting that the government has your health & best interest in mind.

Never trust your government.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Never trust the government! But whoever the hell you are trusting with your info is sure as hell doing you wrong, sheep.

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Brother no one is telling me anything. Everything I speak of is what I?ve personally researched. I don?t need anyone telling me anything because the information is out there. You have to take the blinders off and see it. You just have to cut the TV off & look much deeper. And when I say cut the TV off, I mean everything from Fox to CNN to Newsmax to MSNBC. All of it. It?s all propaganda.

As far as it slowing the spread? YOU ARE LITERALLY TRUSTING THE GOVERNMENT when you say this. My own eyes & personal experiences see differently. This is a fact.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

If the common people knew the ag chemicals (my field) that have been FDA approved and how their approval came about, they would quit eating a lot of foods and never trust the government again.

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I have done research on this and trust me, I believe you wholeheartedly. I also believe it goes much deeper.

I don?t think these new shots are the mark of the beast or anything lol, but I can say something isn?t right with them or with how hard they?re trying to sell them to the public. A lot of people are being brainwashed beyond recognition right now. It?s sad to watch happen.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

I have done research on this and trust me, I believe you wholeheartedly. I also believe it goes much deeper.

I don?t think these new shots are the mark of the beast or anything lol, but I can say something isn?t right with them or with how hard they?re trying to sell them to the public. A lot of people are being brainwashed beyond recognition right now. It?s sad to watch happen.

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Dude, in just 2 pages I've seen you post a field's worth of horseshit.

The truth is these shots aren't the 2nd coming. That's it. They are good, but not great. That's it. No need to exaggerate the shot's shortcomings....unless you have an agenda.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Dude, in just 2 pages I've seen you post a field's worth of horseshit.

The truth is these shots aren't the 2nd coming. That's it. They are good, but not great. That's it. No need to exaggerate the shot's shortcomings....unless you have an agenda.

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Just keep taking your shots. In fact take the ones they set aside for me as well because I?ll never take one or wear a mask.

Maybe by the 20 or 30th shot it becomes a true vaccine. Just let me know how it goes for ya 😂

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Originally Posted by msstate7

What's the FDA's explanation on wanting 75 years to release data they used to approve vaccine in less than 6 months?

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Unreal. Did not know this but ain't surprised. Is there an explanation?

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Just keep taking your shots. In fact take the ones they set aside for me as well because I?ll never take one or wear a mask.

Maybe by the 20 or 30th shot it becomes a true vaccine. Just let me know how it goes for ya 😂

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I don't think you could have made a more ignorant post if you tried. Thanks for proving my point!

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Unreal. Did not know this but ain't surprised. Is there an explanation?

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They asked for 55 years at first and then upped it to 75 years lol.

Nothing to see here. Nothing at all. Just go get your shot and stop asking questions. Cough cough.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/fda-says-it-now-needs-75-years-to-fully-release-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-data_4145410.html

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I don't think you could have made a more ignorant post if you tried. Thanks for proving my point!

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I understand. Stay safe your way & I?ll stay safe my way.

My way has worked really well for me and all of my family so far so I like my chances? well except 3 of the 4 family members that actually took the shot and have had lots of problems since. The 4th passed away not long after the shot.

Have a good night & God Bless, friend.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

I understand. Stay safe your way & I?ll stay safe my way.

My way has worked really well for me and all of my family so far so I like my chances? well except 3 of the 4 family members that actually took the shot and have had lots of problems since. The 4th passed away not long after the shot.

Have a good night & God Bless, friend.

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Ah, ignoring the speed limits has worked out well for you...so far. You don't say. Lord knows such a result is so unheard of from the ignorant, selfish a-holes that the rest of us have to deal with. God bless that your ignorance doesn't harm another....you'll need it.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Ah, ignoring the speed limits has worked out well for you...so far. You don't say. Lord knows such a result is so unheard of from the ignorant, selfish a-holes that the rest of us have to deal with. God bless that your ignorance doesn't harm another....you'll need it.

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Selfish? You?re vaccinated so you should be ok. Correct? Or are you afraid they don?t work?

You?re vaccine provides you immunity from dealing with people like me. Amirite? Or again, are you afraid they don?t work? which means it?s NOT a vaccine

You can?t have it both ways. They either work & you?re completely safe from selfish a-holes like me, or they don?t & you?re a selfish a-hole just like me that took a shot to simply make you feel better about yourself? which is it?

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I'm well aware of what the public justification was 50 years ago for the implementation of speed limits, bro. But that's not why we have them today. Hell, there was a major relaxation 30 years ago. Catch up.

The POINT was we could eliminate speed limits if we weren't concerned with the safety of those affected. That YOUR confidence that you are are a special snowflake that can safely speed does not mean much to the family you end up killing out of your ignorant arrogance. Did you know that 99% of ALL drivers think they are an above average driver? Guess what, for the safety of ALL of us we cannot rely on your individual assessment.

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I agree, and if public safety were the issue, regulations would eliminate and could easily eliminate the ability to speed, but they don?t. The limits are not for safety. You can?t fine someone for breaking a law if it can?t be broken. Safety is the blanket that they throw over it. Like I said, your trust that what the government does is for the greater good is striking. I?m sure your state representatives are proud. You are the epitome of a useful idiot.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Selfish? You?re vaccinated so you should be ok. Correct? Or are you afraid they don?t work?

You?re vaccine provides you immunity from dealing with people like me. Amirite? Or again, are you afraid they don?t work? which means it?s NOT a vaccine

You can?t have it both ways. They either work & you?re completely safe from selfish a-holes like me, or they don?t & you?re a selfish a-hole just like me that took a shot to simply make you feel better about yourself? which is it?

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I'm just baffled how you are somehow under the impression that if a vaccine doesn't work at 100% effectiveness it's not a "real" vaccine. How have you made it to adulthood without knowing that vaccines are never 100% effective?

You also don't seem to understand a simple concept of "It's not good enough for me to not get COVID. I don't want you to get COVID either. I love my fellow man and don't want anyone to die or suffer needlessly." I am very confident that as a healthy young person, both vaxxed and boosted, that I'm not going to die of COVID, but I still want you to get vaccinated because I care about you and don't want you to be at risk either. I will never understand the attitude of, "Oh well, people died needlessly, but it's their own fault so who cares??" I care.

There are hundreds of thousands of Americans who aren't alive today, but would be if they'd just taken the vaccine. How can your heart not break for them and their families?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I'm just baffled how you are somehow under the impression that if a vaccine doesn't work at 100% effectiveness it's not a "real" vaccine. How have you made it to adulthood without knowing that vaccines are never 100% effective?

You also don't seem to understand a simple concept of "It's not good enough for me to not get COVID. I don't want you to get COVID either. I love my fellow man and don't want anyone to die or suffer needlessly." I am very confident that as a healthy young person, both vaxxed and boosted, that I'm not going to die of COVID, but I still want you to get vaccinated because I care about you and don't want you to be at risk either. I will never understand the attitude of, "Oh well, people died needlessly, but it's their own fault so who cares??" I care.

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And if you don't get vaccinated, you lose your job bc I care for you so much

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Originally Posted by msstate7

And if you don't get vaccinated, you lose your job bc I care for you so much

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Not if you get tested weekly and ensure your COVID-negative status (under the federal mandate).

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I'm just baffled how you are somehow under the impression that if a vaccine doesn't work at 100% effectiveness it's not a "real" vaccine. How have you made it to adulthood without knowing that vaccines are never 100% effective?

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I?m not sure you?re understanding how many vaccinated people are testing positive. Like almost every athlete that tests positive are vaccinated. Every single person I personally know that?s tested positive in months are vaccinated. My cousins clinic has had ONE unvaccinated positive test in two months. All of them have been vaccinated except one. Every politician that tests positive is vaccinated. Almost every public figure that tests positive is vaccinated.

Why do you think they changed the definition of vaccine? Can you answer this for me please?

Why are they trying to withhold the release of documents for 75 years? Can you make any of this make sense to me?

I?m baffled that you don?t understand why they did this lol

Maybe I?m the one that should be baffled that you didn?t know the facts below? 👇🏼

Before the change, the definition for ?vaccination? read, ?the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.? Now, the word ?immunity? has been switched to ?protection.?

The term ?vaccine? also got a makeover. The CDC?s definition changed from ?a product that stimulates a person?s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease? to the current ?a preparation that is used to stimulate the body?s immune response against diseases.?

The virus was unleashed as a bioweapon against the US and Trump in a concerted effort with top Democrats in the US
Its become a power grab by the Swamp of DC including both Dems and Reps
Its been way overblown on purpose and numbers inflated to scare the masses
The power grab on the virus inspired mail-in voting to steal an election.
Trump won 16 of 17 bellweather counties in the US that always decide who the President is. Yet somehow Biden won
New York city just passed a law to allow non-citizens to vote- which is against the Constitution.
Soros-led companies have funded people to move foreigners into the US thru the Southern border. 170K per month now.
Biden's Build Back Better plan focuses on election laws that turn voting over to the federal government and not the states?
Thousands of mail-in votes in Arizona and Georgia came from the same address in 2020?

Are you awake yet?

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I?m not sure you?re understanding how many vaccinated people are testing positive. Like almost every athlete that tests positive are vaccinated. Every single person I personally know that?s tested positive in months are vaccinated. My cousins clinic has had ONE unvaccinated positive test in two months. All of them have been vaccinated except one. Every politician that tests positive is vaccinated.

Why do you think they changed the definition of vaccine? Can you answer this for me please?

Why are they trying to withhold the release of documents for 75 years? Can you make any of this make sense to me?

I?m baffled that you don?t understand why they did this lol

Maybe I?m the one that should be baffled that you didn?t know the facts below? 👇🏼

Before the change, the definition for ?vaccination? read, ?the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.? Now, the word ?immunity? has been switched to ?protection.?

The term ?vaccine? also got a makeover. The CDC?s definition changed from ?a product that stimulates a person?s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease? to the current ?a preparation that is used to stimulate the body?s immune response against diseases.?

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Again, just because you didn't know that vaccines are literally never 100% effective and literally never have been doesn't mean that somehow the definition was changed. It just means you didn't know. It's not a big deal - I learn new stuff all the time, but I do my best not to stick to my guns and insist the wrong thing I thought I knew was true.

There are plenty of statistics out there on there on how many people are testing positive and how that rate varies by vaccine status, and those compiled national statistics are much more valuable than your personal anecdotal experience. However, you are likely seeing Bayes Theorem in action - when two samples with different rates have different sizes, you get wonky results. In fact, I am in the same boat as you - I know exactly 0 unvaccinated people, so 100% of people I know who've gotten COVID since March have been vaccinated! And yet, I still recognize that unvaccinated people are far more likely to catch COVID than vaccinated because that's what the statistics tell us. (I also think there is some amount of skew in who actually gets a test, such as some unvaccinated people being so unconcerned with COVID that they never get tested or recorded as a case, but I don't have any way of knowing what kind of impact that has.)

As for the 75 years thing goes, Pfizer is a shady company like everyone else in Big Pharma. Glad your side of the political aisle is finally waking up to that.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The virus was unleashed as a bioweapon against the US and Trump in a concerted effort with top Democrats in the US
Its become a power grab by the Swamp of DC including both Dems and Reps
Its been way overblown on purpose and numbers inflated to scare the masses
The power grab on the virus inspired mail-in voting to steal an election.
Trump won 16 of 17 bellweather counties in the US that always decide who the President is. Yet somehow Biden won
New York city just passed a law to allow non-citizens to vote- which is against the Constitution.
Soros-led companies have funded people to move foreigners into the US thru the Southern border. 170K per month now.
Biden's Build Back Better plan focuses on election laws that turn voting over to the federal government and not the states?
Thousands of mail-in votes in Arizona and Georgia came from the same address in 2020?

Are you awake yet?

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Several on here seem to still be afraid to walk out of their own homes because they are trusting government data. I hope this helps answer your question lol

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Again, just because you didn't know that vaccines are literally never 100% effective and literally never have been doesn't mean that somehow the definition was changed. It just means you didn't know. It's not a big deal - I learn new stuff all the time, but I do my best not to stick to my guns and insist the wrong thing I thought I knew was true.

There are plenty of statistics out there on there on how many people are testing positive and how that rate varies by vaccine status, and those compiled national statistics are much more valuable than your personal anecdotal experience. However, you are likely seeing Bayes Theorem in action - when two samples with different rates have different sizes, you get wonky results. In fact, I am in the same boat as you - I know exactly 0 unvaccinated people, so 100% of people I know who've gotten COVID since March have been vaccinated! And yet, I still recognize that unvaccinated people are far more likely to catch COVID than vaccinated because that's what the statistics tell us. (I also think there is some amount of skew in who actually gets a test, such as some unvaccinated people being so unconcerned with COVID that they never get tested or recorded as a case, but I don't have any way of knowing what kind of impact that has.)

As for the 75 years thing goes, Pfizer is a shady company like everyone else in Big Pharma. Glad your side of the political aisle is finally waking up to that.

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The FDA requested 75 years, not phizer. Well, at least not publicly. Phizer probably runs the fda though

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Several on here seem to still be afraid to walk out of their own homes because they are trusting government data. I hope this helps answer your question lol

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I don't even know where this comes from. I wasn't afraid to "walk out of my own home" at any point of the pandemic, nor was anyone else I know or have heard of.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

The FDA requested 75 years, not phizer. Well, at least not publicly. Phizer probably runs the fda though

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I just Googled it to make sure, and Pfizer is behind the request. I'm glad we are all on the same anti-Big-Pharma side. #AOC2028

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Again, just because you didn't know that vaccines are literally never 100% effective and literally never have been doesn't mean that somehow the definition was changed. It just means you didn't know. It's not a big deal - I learn new stuff all the time, but I do my best not to stick to my guns and insist the wrong thing I thought I knew was true.

There are plenty of statistics out there on there on how many people are testing positive and how that rate varies by vaccine status, and those compiled national statistics are much more valuable than your personal anecdotal experience. However, you are likely seeing Bayes Theorem in action - when two samples with different rates have different sizes, you get wonky results. In fact, I am in the same boat as you - I know exactly 0 unvaccinated people, so 100% of people I know who've gotten COVID since March have been vaccinated! And yet, I still recognize that unvaccinated people are far more likely to catch COVID than vaccinated because that's what the statistics tell us. (I also think there is some amount of skew in who actually gets a test, such as some unvaccinated people being so unconcerned with COVID that they never get tested or recorded as a case, but I don't have any way of knowing what kind of impact that has.)

As for the 75 years thing goes, Pfizer is a shady company like everyone else in Big Pharma. Glad your side of the political aisle is finally waking up to that.

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I guess you thought I made that up? 😂

It?s you that doesn?t know the REAL definition of vaccine, not me. Sorry it?s not a conspiracy theory & I didn?t make it up. I agree that nothing is 100%, but I didn?t create the original definition. And it?s really odd they felt the need to change it.

Isn?t it odd that they waited until the new flu to change the definition? Please use your brain my man. They knew this shot was going to be sh*t ahead of time so they got out in front of it. It?s all corrupt & needs to be brought to it?s knees.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...254111268.html

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

I guess you thought I made that up? ��

It?s you that doesn?t know the REAL definition of vaccine, not me. Sorry it?s not a conspiracy theory & I didn?t make it up. I agree that nothing is 100%, but I didn?t create the original definition. And it?s really odd they felt the need to change it.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...254111268.html

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So you admit I'm right and "vaccine" has never implied 100% effectiveness. Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I just Googled it to make sure, and Pfizer is behind the request. I'm glad we are all on the same anti-Big-Pharma side. #AOC2028

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Why would the FDA give a crap what phizer wants? It's the fda's decision to cooperate or not

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

My personal favorite part of this whole thing is deciding that healthcare workers are heros and then firing a bunch of them a year later for not the vaccine.

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Same in manufacturing- the dudes that did not stay home or do Zoom calls for 18 months - kept food, electricity, water, and supplies moving for all of us. From Heroes to HR problems

I'm talking about some of the smartest humans on earth. Guys that can make Turbomachinery or Particle Counters work. The zoom people would be staring at blank screens in cold, dark houses and boiling creek water without these dudes.

The manufacturing leaders did not agree with this, but the government contracts are too sweet to lose. Ultimately they cannot and will not enforce in many critical sites that I know about. Easier to pretend not to notice.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Why would the FDA give a crap what phizer wants? It's the fda's decision to cooperate or not

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You can read about it here if you want:
https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gf...s%20report.pdf

Apparently (I admittedly only read a summary), Pfizer is demanding the FDA remove any "trade secrets," and there are also medical privacy concerns about individual patients. Hopefully the Courts laugh at that request and release it all.

ETA - Apparently releasing "500 pages per month" is a standard procedure in this kind of thing. The information is over 300,000 pages long. Obviously the standard procedure isn't going to work in this case.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

So you admit I'm right and "vaccine" has never implied 100% effectiveness. Cheers!

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I admit NOTHING is ever 100%. There?s always rare cases.

I didn?t create the original definition which states IMMUNITY. That?s not my words that was the literal definition UNTIL this new flu lol. And you don?t find that odd? 🤔

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I'm just baffled how you are somehow under the impression that if a vaccine doesn't work at 100% effectiveness it's not a "real" vaccine. How have you made it to adulthood without knowing that vaccines are never 100% effective?

You also don't seem to understand a simple concept of "It's not good enough for me to not get COVID. I don't want you to get COVID either. I love my fellow man and don't want anyone to die or suffer needlessly." I am very confident that as a healthy young person, both vaxxed and boosted, that I'm not going to die of COVID, but I still want you to get vaccinated because I care about you and don't want you to be at risk either. I will never understand the attitude of, "Oh well, people died needlessly, but it's their own fault so who cares??" I care.

There are hundreds of thousands of Americans who aren't alive today, but would be if they'd just taken the vaccine. How can your heart not break for them and their families?

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Now get on your soap box for the elimination of motor vehicles. They are by far the most deadly thing that the general population is exposed to on a daily basis. Regardless of everything else, you have a 2.88x higher mortality rate when you are in or around a motor vehicle than dying of Covid, which disproportionately affects people falling within certain parameters. There are roughly 3700 deaths/day attributed to MVAs vs 1281 deaths/day attributed to Covid by updated stats.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...te-july-1.html

These stats also do not include people maimed or injured in MVAs. Funny thing is that it can be easily argued that no one needs their own personal motor vehicle.
How can you justify the use of your personal car if it puts even one life at risk? How can your heart not break for those that died in car accidents today and their families?

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I don't even know where this comes from. I wasn't afraid to "walk out of my own home" at any point of the pandemic, nor was anyone else I know or have heard of.

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I had IT guy neighbors that I thought moved. Then they sent in ballots to demand the neighborhood pool and tennis courts be closed. The delivery guy for the votes was an Indian guy from my company wearing double masks, face shield, and Walmart bags as gloves. "We are working from our basements."

The pool, hot tubs, and tennis courts were opened anyway. Teens resumed volleyball. South Americans resumed soccer tournaments. The COVIDians continued to stay home, life went on.

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Now get on your soap box for the elimination of motor vehicles. They are by far the most deadly thing that the general population is exposed to on a daily basis. Regardless of everything else, you have a 2.88x higher mortality rate when you are in or around a motor vehicle than dying of Covid, which disproportionately affects people falling within certain parameters. There are roughly 3700 deaths/day attributed to MVAs vs 1281 deaths/day attributed to Covid by updated stats.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...te-july-1.html

These stats also do not include people maimed or injured in MVAs. Funny thing is that it can be easily argued that no one needs their own personal motor vehicle.
How can you justify the use of your personal car if it puts even one life at risk? How can your heart not break for those that died in car accidents today and their families?

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Well, um, my heart does break for people who die in car accidents in their families. (Obviously, right? Does yours not or something?)

However, the analogy doesn't work because cars are essential to our society and have a lot of upside and positive benefits, while being unvaccinated has none of those things.

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Originally Posted by Dak Holliday

Now get on your soap box for the elimination of motor vehicles. They are by far the most deadly thing that the general population is exposed to on a daily basis. Regardless of everything else, you have a 2.88x higher mortality rate when you are in or around a motor vehicle than dying of Covid, which disproportionately affects people falling within certain parameters. There are roughly 3700 deaths/day attributed to MVAs vs 1281 deaths/day attributed to Covid by updated stats.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...te-july-1.html

These stats also do not include people maimed or injured in MVAs. Funny thing is that it can be easily argued that no one needs their own personal motor vehicle.
How can you justify the use of your personal car if it puts even one life at risk? How can your heart not break for those that died in car accidents today and their families?

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They should also create legislation to ban cigarettes & tobacco products, alcohol use, GMO foods, etc. Those things are killing lots of people. Even second hand smoke is the cause of killing thousands & thousands of people per year.

Why stop there tho?

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Well, um, my heart does break for people who die in car accidents in their families. (Obviously, right? Does yours not or something?)

However, the analogy doesn't work because cars are essential to our society and have a lot of upside and positive benefits, while being unvaccinated has never of those things.

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No, they are not essential. In fact, one could easily support an argument that there is ZERO need for personal transportation outside of convenience. I will wait for you to create your case for the necessity of an extremely deadly item that didn?t exist for the vast majority of history.

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Originally Posted by Dak Holliday

No, they are not essential. In fact, one could easily support an argument that there is ZERO need for personal transportation outside of convenience. I will wait for you to create your case for the necessity of an extremely deadly item that didn?t exist for the vast majority of history.

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Maybe you live in NYC or somewhere where walking or public transportation are viable options, but in Mississippi we would have to completely uproot and redesign society to go without cars.

...Aaaand I think you know that and are just trying to bait me.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

They should also create legislation to ban cigarettes & tobacco products, alcohol use, GMO foods, etc. Those things are killing lots of people. Even second hand smoke is the cause of killing thousands & thousands of people per year.

Why stop there tho?

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Exactly. This slope is extremely slippery and riddled with traps. Those willing to trade freedom for security will usually end up with neither.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Maybe you live in NYC or somewhere where walking or public transportation are viable options, but in Mississippi we would have to completely uproot and redesign society to go without cars.

...Aaaand I think you know that and are just trying to bait me.

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Buses/trolley/bike/horse. All viable options. Inconvenient, yes, but all much safer than personal vehicles. It?s not viable to you because it would cause you too much inconvenience.
Aaaand, I am not trying to bait you, but rather allow you the opportunity to put your hypocrisy on full display.

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Originally Posted by Dak Holliday

Buses/trolley/bike/horse. All viable options. Inconvenient, yes, but all much safer than personal vehicles. It?s not viable to you because it would cause you too much inconvenience.
Aaaand, I am not trying to bait you, but rather allow you the opportunity to put your hypocrisy on full display.

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ON FULL DISPLAY.

Fixed it for ya. Needed to be shouted 😁

"If you feel sad for families of people who chose not to get the vaccine and then died needlessly, but don't advocate a complete and total ban on personal cars, your hypocrisy is on full display!!!!"

ON
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DISPLAY!!!!