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Updated. Next update will be once draftee signing period passes on Aug 1st.
What does roster limits go back to this year?
So anyone have a run down on who made it to campus from the draft? Both HS and current players coming back
Best I can remember we lostQuote:
Originally Posted by vv83
TA, Cerentola, MacLeod, Rowdy, Bednar off the current Roster.
McCants, Wood, and Bruns from the signee pool.
We jus reloaded this year seems like. Still havent really gotten Lemonis signing class due to baseball being recruited so far out, but we have some really good players coming in this year.
Also to note, Lemonis and Foxhall have gotten some top pitching prospects committed for the future. A kid from North Carolina and the kid from MS come to mind.
I don't know but my guess is that anyone affected by that would be allowed to be on the roster like before if they wanted to come back but I think most of that was taken care of naturally because we could only play so many guys and therefore most of the ones that didn't play much just transferred out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
Typically, and I still think that this is mostly true the first two years really don't count because of how the recruiting cycle works. Year one is basically another coach's players. Year two is when the first recruits start to come in. After that the players start to become more and more from the current coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
The 2022 fall roster released a couple months ago had 43 players on it. In the past couple of weeks three guys have put their names in the transfer portal: Freshman Jeffery Ince, Freshman Tyler Haines, and Sophomore Kyte Mcdonald. I believe the roster limit this year is 40 and we are right at that number and the expectation is that 1-2 more will transfer before the season starts.
Hate to hear Kyte is leaving......He would add some much needed depth in the of......Quote:
Originally Posted by Choctaw Dawg
Not really anywhere for him to go though, his defense is poor and his arm strength isn't great either. He was a good hitter when given the chance thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
So just to get the ball rolling...who will be our Friday, Saturday, and Sunday starting pitchers? Maybe Landon Sims, Jackson Fristoe, then Stone Simmons. Any thoughts?
Sims Fristoe and Cade Smith is my guess. Other guys that I wouldn't rule out would be Stinnett, Walling, and Tullar (he was brought in to be a starter for us last year).
I'm kinda hoping they keep Preston Johnson as a bullpen guy, Closers you will probably see KC Hunt or Jack Walker. Wouldn't rule out Tepper logging some bullpen innings too this year.
I think it will be Sims, Cade Smith, and I think Andrew Walling will get a shot to start early since that's a big reason why he came to MSU. Walling didn't exactly do that great in the fall but that's the fall and only means so much. I could definitely see KC Hunt getting a starting job too as well as Fristoe of course. Preston Johnson will get a look because he has shown that he can go multiple innings. Jack Walker could win a job as a freshman as well. He's going to be a good pitcher for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by terradawg
I know he faded towards the end of the year but everyone that’s looked at us (Fitts and company) mention Fristoe almost every time. Makes me think Sims Friday Fristoe Saturday and Walling Sunday
FWIW:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambone
The buzz from Twitter is Sims, Stinnett, and Cade Smith
Sims is an All American, Stinnett is now an unhittable control pitcher, and Cade Smith was the top-Freshman with CWS proof-testing
If correct, this gives us a RIDICULOUS bullpen, best ever for MSU?
B Smith, P Johnson, Fristoe, Tepper (great at the Cape), Simmons, Walling, Hunt, Tullar
If Fristoe is our wildcard, that's a pretty huge wildcard. He's a 1st Round Candidate in 2022. He is not Cerantola that never actually showed us anything and was a hockey kid most of his life. JF is supposed to be a 1st Rounder, he is supposed to be a Flag Ship. But let's get real, JF did not look good in the Regional but Cade Smith was the Man in the Arena in clutch innings against the best teams in the nation. JF had 4 consecutive bad starts before Harding earned the #3 job.
But Fristoe is not the only wildcard with huge upside. B Smith, Walling, and Hunt are due a leap of performance. How high, could be game changing. I think a Bulldog will be the Kevin Kopps of 2022. Of course, I wear Maroon colored lenses.
I would be surprised to see Stinnett start.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Fristoe's problem was that because of Covid he didn't pitch all year his senior year. He was throwing a lot of innings as a freshman when he hadn't thrown in a game in a while. Sure you could make that excuse for most everybody but I think it effected him moreQuote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
First two correct. Walling has lots of work got do to get a weekend spot. He's not a strike thrower and he's trying to become one. While doing so his velo is down too. He will have to prove himself out of the pen and mid week starts.... walker is going to be good. We shall see who ultimately ends up as Sunday guy. Probably numerous people get a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
So has Stinnett simply improved his ability to locate or developed a better slider?
His slider was good last year. At least the bite on his slider. Location, now that's another story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
I agree about Walling. Unless he makes a big jump in the spring he won't make the rotation and really the only reason I mentioned him was because I know that being a starter here was our pitch when we were recruiting him. I could see Lemonis using him as a starter midweek to start the year barring a big jump that I mentioned but right now he just looks like a relief only guy. I could also see him ending up like Cerentola last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
He was better at it in summer ball. Not sure that I would just make him a starter based on his summer though. It wasn't like he had a Stratton/Dakota Hudson type summer in the Cape or anything like that. I don't think he even started in summer ball either but I could be wrong about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
He'll be a good bullpen piece for us but he was honestly pretty lucky last year with how much he walked people.
Fun preseason stats: 149, 115, and 125Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
Those were the opposing batting averages against Sims, Cade, and Stinnett in 2021.
Stinnett with control could be very special, that's why his great Fall is very interesting, D1 gave him a nice write up
Hard to hit something that isn't in the strike zone! LOL. Stinnett with control is probably our closer. But he's probably going to be a lot closer to Cole Gordon than Landon Sims. If he even is the closer. Preston Johnson and others will have a say in that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
The 2021 Cape Hero is Mikey Tepper. But only pitched 9 innings, but 2-0 in 2 starts, 0.00 ERAQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Early or late Cole Gordon? Cause if we talking Post Mullet, knee locking curveball Cole, bring it!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We'll see. The player got 31 Ks in 18 innings with 13 SEC or Regional outings. Foxhall had many options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Funny thing for me, I was alone in the same argument last year about Houston Harding
Another thought on #3, who ever it might be. What we learned in Omaha is that this team can roll out 5 or 6 arms on a Sunday and keep batters under control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Might be the way that Foxhall attacks the deep, experienced hitting teams like LSU, Arkansas, and OM. Never let anybody see the same pitcher twice
I think our rotation is Sims, Smith, and then a battle between Fristoe and Walling.
I think the closer could be KC Hunt.
I think Tepper has better stuff than Hunt! We?ll see how much he?s progressed! Kid?s got a big time arm for sure!Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
It's great to have so many prospects, considering that MSU ended 2021 with Bednar as the only original rotation guy still performing to expectations, having this quality depth and options is critical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
- Original #2 Pre-Season All American developed mechanical problems late and lost his snap
- Original #3 stayed at his freshman development level
- Original #4 went from Freshman All American to regular Freshman
Yet, still won a National Championship due to depth that could replace the expected performance
Say what now?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Not sure how I missed or forgot this thread. Good work and thanks Scooba.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
If I have learned anything about our coaching and the ever changing college game, it is that I am more concerned with how deep and effective our bullpen is than how good our starters are.
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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Hopefully late Cole Gordon.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
I'm not sure that the staff would prefer to do that though. Would mean that midweek would be an adventure as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
The thing about Tepper is he has to show consistent command. That's the key for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
My initial thoughts at the rotation would be Sims, Cade, and Simmons....but that would be 3 RHP's, and I'm thinking we'll want at least 1 Lefty starter in the weekend rotation. That leads to my next question....can someone list our LH arms? Do we have many LHP's? Bc I feel like having a few go-to LHP's is huge in postseason for matchups
The starters used in the Inter-Team series and the Bama game were:Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
(A) Bama - Fristoe: 1 inning 1 Run 1 Hit (HR)
(B) B Smith - 4 innings, 5 hits, 1 run
(C) Walling - less than 1 inning with 4 walks, 4 runs, 9 batters faced
(D) Simmons - 3 innings with 5 runs, 6 hits
(E) Stinnett - 4 innings and 9 Ks and 1 BB, 2 runs
(F) Kohn - 1 inning, 3 runs
(G) C Smith -2 innings 6 runs
So after Sims, there were quite a few players given a shot to start in the fall. ED seems to have Sims and C Smith as given starters with #3 being different for each poster.
The 3rd starter by the 1st SEC Series seems like a great V-Cash betting topic.