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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

No they have not, not like this.

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you're right, they never have /s

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I hope every big time player at MSU OM USM & other schools in all sports do the same. Use your voices & whatever power you have. The flag needs to go & if you have to play hard ball to make a difference well dammit play hardball. We have too many "I think the flag should change but" fans around here. There is no but change the damn flag.

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I?m with you, brother. Change the damn flag.

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Originally Posted by msstatelp1

you're right, they never have /s

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Lets go ahead and add Ali, Jackie Robinson, Munich, Jim Brown, Billy Jean King, Joe Louis, as well, just to name a few....but yeah, all BS.


And most recently, Bubba Wallace.

ETA: how could I forget the Game of Change. Yeah, those "pre-Madonna" bitches should've just shut up and dribbled.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

No they have not, not like this.

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Sure they have. Give me a year, and I'll tell you what was going on in political sports around that time.

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Originally Posted by Parker Street

Nothing personal, but I will suggest that 70% of Mississippians could care less about any university in Mississippi. The flag is something people never even think about until the Cancel Culture declares it racist. How much longer can the insane demands be tolerated.

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Cancel culture didn't declare it racist, that was the Mississippi Confederacy that linked the way of life in MS to slavery. It is in the first paragraph of the articles of succession.

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Originally Posted by Parker Street

Nothing personal, but I will suggest that 70% of Mississippians could care less about any university in Mississippi. The flag is something people never even think about until the Cancel Culture declares it racist. How much longer can the insane demands be tolerated.

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You're right about the 70%. I edited my post to reflect that.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Some of y'all don't get that both Hill and Murphy are from Mississippi. They represent MSU, but they also represent the state of Mississippi. And like it or not, the state is bigger than we are.

I'm shocked at some of you who are pretty blatantly coming out blasting a kid of our own like this. The hints of racism are strong in this thread. And I'm a conservative born in Alabama and lived here 28 and in Starkville for 4. But just because a kid didnt do something before now doesn't negate or diminish what he's trying to do now.

I think there's a lot of folks on this board proud of their heritage. But it's also blatantly obvious that you don't have to deal with people of color very often or try and relate to them on something other than a surface level.

Flag needs to go and good for Hill for stepping up and saying something. If you have the balls to publicly call out a kid for despising a symbol of oppression of his culture, you need to check yourself. You probably aren't the person you think you are. Or maybe you are and just aren't a very good person.

This isn't part of cancel culture. And if you can't distinguish between this and some of the absurdities going on in other areas, shame on you.

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Agreed. And at this point its not just hints. Good post.

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Originally Posted by Parker Street

Nothing personal, but I will suggest that 70% of Mississippians could care less about any university in Mississippi. The flag is something people never even think about until the Cancel Culture declares it racist. How much longer can the insane demands be tolerated.

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There's a communist revolution going on. They are making the rules.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

There's a communist revolution going on. They are making the rules.

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So....being against the MS flag and the confederacy is now....Communist?

Good news is that Kylin Hill just in the Heisman race tonight.

You know damn well the media types are going to eat him up if he has a good year

Damn we need to get sports back, the board is getting as bad as Facebook lol.

Not that there's anything wrong with that lol

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Damn we need to get sports back, the board is getting as bad as Facebook lol.

Not that there's anything wrong with that lol

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Actually this board is a pretty decent representation of the country as a whole right now. There are no discussions, only us vs them talking points. You cannot disagree with someone without having your motives impugned and being called a racist. We have lost the ability to talk to each other. On 247, it is as bad as Nazi censorship. Agree with the Moderators and your post stays. Disagree and your post or thread disappears. It is total censorship. And anyone who thinks things are going to be better on the other side of this is fooling themselves.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

There's a communist revolution going on. They are making the rules.

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True, and Black Lives Matter is now the most powerful political party in the United States. Once they target and humiliate you, they Own you.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Some of y'all don't get that both Hill and Murphy are from Mississippi. They represent MSU, but they also represent the state of Mississippi. And like it or not, the state is bigger than we are.

I'm shocked at some of you who are pretty blatantly coming out blasting a kid of our own like this. The hints of racism are strong in this thread. And I'm a conservative born in Alabama and lived here 28 and in Starkville for 4. But just because a kid didnt do something before now doesn't negate or diminish what he's trying to do now.

I think there's a lot of folks on this board proud of their heritage. But it's also blatantly obvious that you don't have to deal with people of color very often or try and relate to them on something other than a surface level.

Flag needs to go and good for Hill for stepping up and saying something. If you have the balls to publicly call out a kid for despising a symbol of oppression of his culture, you need to check yourself. You probably aren't the person you think you are. Or maybe you are and just aren't a very good person.

This isn't part of cancel culture. And if you can't distinguish between this and some of the absurdities going on in other areas, shame on you.

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I am not attacking the kid I am telling the truth. And as far as dealing with people of color I deal with all peoples. Young peoples. And I treat everyone of them the exact same. And if they are attention starved prima donnas who want to be catered too and patted on the back 24/7, twitter all stars and but limping off the field every 4 plays then I would hold them accountable. Stop making every little thing about race.

Marcus Murphy has been great other than tutorgate notice I have not said a word against him because I know the kind of kid he is. The Hail State family goes both ways. If you are willing to walk out on us over a symbol of a flag that has not even been flown on campus in years then you are probably more of the problem than you would like to admit. Marks is ready and willing to take your carries and there will be another kid hungry for a scholarship and that monthly stipend. Has absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin. I am from MS too and I would not walk out on my kids over something like this. That is what makes football great. All of that should go away in the locker room and especially in the huddle. It does not mean a thing between the lines. I know life is bigger than football and I want all our athletes to feel welcomed but I also want them to love MSU and it be about we not me

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Originally Posted by bobcat91

Actually this board is a pretty decent representation of the country as a whole right now. There are no discussions, only us vs them talking points. You cannot disagree with someone without having your motives impugned and being called a racist. We have lost the ability to talk to each other. On 247, it is as bad as Nazi censorship. Agree with the Moderators and your post stays. Disagree and your post or thread disappears. It is total censorship. And anyone who thinks things are going to be better on the other side of this is fooling themselves.

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Yes we are divided that was why I compared it to Facebook and all other forms of social media and discussion. Why people can't rationally discuss and have dialogue is insane. I've been a negotiator for a long time and if it becomes "us vs them" with no compromise or middle ground, nobody wins(accept on the playing field that is).

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I am not attacking the kid I am telling the truth. And as far as dealing with people of color I deal with all peoples. Young peoples. And I treat everyone of them the exact same. And if they are attention starved prima donnas who want to be catered too and patted on the back 24/7, twitter all stars and but limping off the field every 4 plays then I would hold them accountable. Stop making every little thing about race.

Marcus Murphy has been great other than tutorgate notice I have not said a word against him because I know the kind of kid he is. The Hail State family goes both ways. If you are willing to walk out on us over a symbol of a flag that has not even been flown on campus in years then you are probably more of the problem than you would like to admit. Marks is ready and willing to take your carries and there will be another kid hungry for a scholarship and that monthly stipend. Has absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin. I am from MS too and I would not walk out on my kids over something like this. That is what makes football great. All of that should go away in the locker room and especially in the huddle. It does not mean a thing between the lines. I know life is bigger than football and I want all our athletes to feel welcomed but I also want them to love MSU and it be about we not me

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Big time rep.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I am not attacking the kid I am telling the truth. And as far as dealing with people of color I deal with all peoples. Young peoples. And I treat everyone of them the exact same. And if they are attention starved prima donnas who want to be catered too and patted on the back 24/7, twitter all stars and but limping off the field every 4 plays then I would hold them accountable. Stop making every little thing about race.

Marcus Murphy has been great other than tutorgate notice I have not said a word against him because I know the kind of kid he is. The Hail State family goes both ways. If you are willing to walk out on us over a symbol of a flag that has not even been flown on campus in years then you are probably more of the problem than you would like to admit. Marks is ready and willing to take your carries and there will be another kid hungry for a scholarship and that monthly stipend. Has absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin. I am from MS too and I would not walk out on my kids over something like this. That is what makes football great. All of that should go away in the locker room and especially in the huddle. It does not mean a thing between the lines. I know life is bigger than football and I want all our athletes to feel welcomed but I also want them to love MSU and it be about we not me

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Great post. You’ll get attacked but you spoke the truth and made great points.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I am not attacking the kid I am telling the truth. And as far as dealing with people of color I deal with all peoples. Young peoples. And I treat everyone of them the exact same. And if they are attention starved prima donnas who want to be catered too and patted on the back 24/7, twitter all stars and but limping off the field every 4 plays then I would hold them accountable. Stop making every little thing about race.

Marcus Murphy has been great other than tutorgate notice I have not said a word against him because I know the kind of kid he is. The Hail State family goes both ways. If you are willing to walk out on us over a symbol of a flag that has not even been flown on campus in years then you are probably more of the problem than you would like to admit. Marks is ready and willing to take your carries and there will be another kid hungry for a scholarship and that monthly stipend. Has absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin. I am from MS too and I would not walk out on my kids over something like this. That is what makes football great. All of that should go away in the locker room and especially in the huddle. It does not mean a thing between the lines. I know life is bigger than football and I want all our athletes to feel welcomed but I also want them to love MSU and it be about we not me

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Marks isn't from Mississippi. Kylin Hill is. Threatening on a message board that Marks is ready to take his snaps is literally stupid. Plain stupidity.

Your entire last paragraph represents why this is an issue. You say football is supposed to leave it all behind. It only does that for people that need a break from the uncomfortable things going on that these kids can change outside of football. You and others don't want to deal with it. You want kids like Kylin to shut up and just play football because that fits your interests more than his. And that's wrong.

Kylin deserves to have a voice as does everyone. But I think a lot of people are realizing for maybe the first time that they don't have a good understanding as to how others feel about this. That flag has been a very casual reminder of inequality and slavery for a long time. And because it's all some people know, it offends them that someone might want to make a change.

A very large portion of the MSU family is standing with Kylin. And you may very quickly find yourself in the minority on this issue. And maybe that will give you a moment to glimpse at how others in the minority of situations feel.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Great post. You’ll get attacked but you spoke the truth and made great points.

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I could care less about being attacked on elite Dawgs. My family (Blood and otherwise) knows me and they know I would do anything for them. And a lot of them are a different race than me

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Originally Posted by bobcat91

Actually this board is a pretty decent representation of the country as a whole right now. There are no discussions, only us vs them talking points. You cannot disagree with someone without having your motives impugned and being called a racist. We have lost the ability to talk to each other. On 247, it is as bad as Nazi censorship. Agree with the Moderators and your post stays. Disagree and your post or thread disappears. It is total censorship. And anyone who thinks things are going to be better on the other side of this is fooling themselves.

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This fan base, especially this board, is completely intolerant of others views. I sit down and eat lunch with my black friends and black co-workers and we can’t help but discuss some of the things going on in our country. We have very civil conversations and respect each other even when we don’t agree on several things. That’s not allowed here. Hell, it doesn’t seem allowed anywhere hardly.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

So....being against the MS flag and the confederacy is now....Communist?

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I was referring to the communist revolution that's been happening from coast to coast for the past few weeks. The state flag should already be history, but was not an issue being discussed until Sankey's dumbass made his statement.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Marks isn't from Mississippi. Kylin Hill is. Threatening on a message board that Marks is ready to take his snaps is literally stupid. Plain stupidity.

Your entire last paragraph represents why this is an issue. You say football is supposed to leave it all behind. It only does that for people that need a break from the uncomfortable things going on that these kids can change outside of football. You and others don't want to deal with it. You want kids like Kylin to shut up and just play football because that fits your interests more than his. And that's wrong.

Kylin deserves to have a voice as does everyone. But I think a lot of people are realizing for maybe the first time that they don't have a good understanding as to how others feel about this. That flag has been a very casual reminder of inequality and slavery for a long time. And because it's all some people know, it offends them that someone might want to make a change.

A very large portion of the MSU family is standing with Kylin. And you may very quickly find yourself in the minority on this issue. And maybe that will give you a moment to glimpse at how others in the minority of situations feel.

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Marks is from GA. GA has a confederate emblem on their flag. He is not acting like that. Marks is hungry and not a twitter warrior. Marks is more than capable of playing and was gonna play whether 8 takes a snap or not. The on field part of that is secondary to me. And what am I threatening? Kylin is the only one threatening anything. Threaten or not Marks is going to push Kylin. Do not go down that road. Take that up with Leach. My opinion means jack at the end of the day.

I never said Kylin should shut up and play. I said Kylin should grow up and stop acting like a drama queen. He is a proven prima Donna. On and off the field. You do not walk out on your teammates and family over something like this. You cannot get on twitter and say Mullen mindset then threaten to abandon them a few weeks later.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Marks isn't from Mississippi. Kylin Hill is. Threatening on a message board that Marks is ready to take his snaps is literally stupid. Plain stupidity.

Your entire last paragraph represents why this is an issue. You say football is supposed to leave it all behind. It only does that for people that need a break from the uncomfortable things going on that these kids can change outside of football. You and others don't want to deal with it. You want kids like Kylin to shut up and just play football because that fits your interests more than his. And that's wrong.

Kylin deserves to have a voice as does everyone. But I think a lot of people are realizing for maybe the first time that they don't have a good understanding as to how others feel about this. That flag has been a very casual reminder of inequality and slavery for a long time. And because it's all some people know, it offends them that someone might want to make a change.

A very large portion of the MSU family is standing with Kylin. And you may very quickly find yourself in the minority on this issue. And maybe that will give you a moment to glimpse at how others in the minority of situations feel.

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You need to work on your reading comprehension

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

You need to work on your reading comprehension

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Sounds great. Enlighten me

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Marks is from GA. GA has a confederate emblem on their flag. He is not acting like that. Marks is hungry and not a twitter warrior. Marks is more than capable of playing and was gonna play whether 8 takes a snap or not. The on field part of that is secondary to me. And what am I threatening? Kylin is the only one threatening anything. Threaten or not Marks is going to push Kylin. Do not go down that road. Take that up with Leach. My opinion means jack at the end of the day.

I never said Kylin should shut up and play. I said Kylin should grow up and stop acting like a drama queen. He is a proven prima Donna. On and off the field. You do not walk out on your teammates and family over something like this. You cannot get on twitter and say Mullen mindset then threaten to abandon them a few weeks later.

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Oh... Snap!

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Good news is that Kylin Hill just in the Heisman race tonight.

You know damn well the media types are going to eat him up if he has a good year

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Best case scenario: Kylin runs for 1,000, catches for 1,000, is present at the official unveiling of the new flag, maybe puts it up the flagpole himself at DWS, and then wins the Heisman in December in the biggest blowout over.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

This fan base, especially this board, is completely intolerant of others views. I sit down and eat lunch with my black friends and black co-workers and we can’t help but discuss some of the things going on in our country. We have very civil conversations and respect each other even when we don’t agree on several things. That’s not allowed here. Hell, it doesn’t seem allowed anywhere hardly.

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There are no discussions on here or other state sites. The lack of sports leads to posts on the topic of the day. And if you disagree one percent from the groupthink, you are called the vilest of names. MetEd said if you disagree with Kylin's stance, you're a racist. How about the many times he said he wanted to leave MSU? Whst does that categorize me when I disagree?

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Sounds great. Enlighten me

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Read through Buckys post and read your response. You are putting words in his mouth and changing the narrative. You are metEd - you should be smart enough to not need my enlightenment.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

I was referring to the communist revolution that's been happening from coast to coast for the past few weeks. The state flag should already be history, but was not an issue being discussed until Sankey's dumbass made his statement.

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That's clearly false. Yes, the SEC/NCAA rules raised the level of conversation, but people have been discussing it all month, including at the Capitol.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Marks isn't from Mississippi. Kylin Hill is. Threatening on a message board that Marks is ready to take his snaps is literally stupid. Plain stupidity.

Your entire last paragraph represents why this is an issue. You say football is supposed to leave it all behind. It only does that for people that need a break from the uncomfortable things going on that these kids can change outside of football. You and others don't want to deal with it. You want kids like Kylin to shut up and just play football because that fits your interests more than his. And that's wrong.

Kylin deserves to have a voice as does everyone. But I think a lot of people are realizing for maybe the first time that they don't have a good understanding as to how others feel about this. That flag has been a very casual reminder of inequality and slavery for a long time. And because it's all some people know, it offends them that someone might want to make a change.

A very large portion of the MSU family is standing with Kylin. And you may very quickly find yourself in the minority on this issue. And maybe that will give you a moment to glimpse at how others in the minority of situations feel.

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My interests? Football is my life. Therefore the kids are my life (regardless of color) in one way or the other. They all know I would do anything for them and they have my number whenever they need it. I give all
of them the same ride home when they need it and the same chewing when they slack. And I would never tell them to shut up and play. But I would hold them accountable to their teammates and to themselves. That is what needs to be brought up. Kylin is a me guy. Like
I said, he can be great and help us but so far Kylin has only helped us when Kylin felt like helping us. When the cameras are on him he is either sky high or dirt low. It is for attention. I got very tired of that.

Hopefully he is the best leader on the team, I am not calling him a lowlife and that we should cut him. I am just stating fact and giving you my perspective of it

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Originally Posted by bobcat91

There are no discussions on here or other state sites. The lack of sports leads to posts on the topic of the day. And if you disagree one percent from the groupthink, you are called the vilest of names. MetEd said if you disagree with Kylin's stance, you're a racist. How about the many times he said he wanted to leave MSU? Whst does that categorize me when I disagree?

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I definitely didn't say if you disagree with Kylin you are a racist. But I think there it's obvious are some racial undertones to some of the posts in this thread. That to me is undeniable.

But disagreeing with someone doesn't make you a racist. And I never said that. Like I said. Lived in the south my entire life. Conservative through and through. But that doesn't mean I have to cross the line of telling a kid like Kylin how he's supposed to react. I think it's rich you said I called folks racist for disagreeing with Kylin though.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Kylin and any other player can go 17 themselves if they can't put aside their feelings and play football. We're rebuilding and will struggle to win 6 anyway, so I don't give a single damn if Hill, Murphy or any other Woke Snowflake doesn't play for the maybe 1-2 extra wins they'll give us. The Woke Cancel Culture is out of control. Not only will we have to put up with these useful idiots kneeling and disrespecting the U.S. flag this fall, now we have to put up with them threatening to not play. Because we all know that's really going to make the Landshart controlled legislature act faster.**** Virtue signaling at its most idiotic, but this is what you get when you educate multiple generations of Americans and tell them how shit & "racist" this country is, regardless of the actual facts.

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Best post in this shitshow of a thread.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

My interests? Football is my life. Therefore the kids are my life (regardless of color) in one way or the other. They all know I would do anything for them and they have my number whenever they need it. I give all
of them the same ride home when they need it and the same chewing when they slack. And I would never tell them to shut up and play. But I would hold them accountable to their teammates and to themselves. That is what needs to be brought up. Kylin is a me guy. Like
I said, he can be great and help us but so far Kylin has only helped us when Kylin felt like helping us. When the cameras are on him he is either sky high or dirt low. It is for attention. I got very tired of that.

Hopefully he is the best leader on the team, I am not calling him a lowlife and that we should cut him. I am just stating fact and giving you my perspective of it

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Would you have said something different to this if Elgton Jenkins had been the one to say this? Or Fletcher Cox?

I'm a teacher and an administrator. So we aren't that dissimilar. I would run through walls for my kids. I've been there for them and told them they need to persevere. And you are right. One man is not bigger than the team. But there are certain societal ideals that are bigger than football. Race and the perception of racial injustice is one of those. It's an issue and it's not going away. Kid is trying to advocate for a little progress and change. I applaud him for that.

My big question is did he clearance to do this. I think that's the real question worth asking. Did he do it himself or did the university give him the ok?

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Would you have said something different to this if Elgton Jenkins had been the one to say this? Or Fletcher Cox?

I'm a teacher and an administrator. So we aren't that dissimilar. I would run through walls for my kids. I've been there for them and told them they need to persevere. And you are right. One man is not bigger than the team. But there are certain societal ideals that are bigger than football. Race and the perception of racial injustice is one of those. It's an issue and it's not going away. Kid is trying to advocate for a little progress and change. I applaud him for that.

My big question is did he clearance to do this. I think that's the real question worth asking. Did he do it himself or did the university give him the ok?

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I would absolutely feel differently about this if it came from a kid I knew was all in and not about himself. Marcus Murphy is a good example like I said. Murphy is a great kid and has dealt with more than I have in my life in his family. Kylin has a track record of being a Twitter all star and making everything about Kylin

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That's clearly false. Yes, the SEC/NCAA rules raised the level of conversation, but people have been discussing it all month, including at the Capitol.

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Issue was not being discussed in the world of Mississippi sports is what I meant. In the past, yes, but not of late until Sankey reminded everyone, and hurt Mississippi schools despite their stance on the issue.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

There's a communist revolution going on. They are making the rules.

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This. And the smarmy know it alls continue to smugly dismiss any concern over it. I have no doubt Quoaras and Shelton would assist in snitching on their fellow citizens to the BLM police for wrong think.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

So....being against the MS flag and the confederacy is now....Communist?

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Most southerners fought because an army was headed their way. I'm for the flag because they (the modern communists) are against it, simple as that.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I definitely didn't say if you disagree with Kylin you are a racist. But I think there it's obvious are some racial undertones to some of the posts in this thread. That to me is undeniable.

But disagreeing with someone doesn't make you a racist. And I never said that. Like I said. Lived in the south my entire life. Conservative through and through. But that doesn't mean I have to cross the line of telling a kid like Kylin how he's supposed to react. I think it's rich you said I called folks racist for disagreeing with Kylin though.

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Maybe you see things differently. I know one color, and that's maroon. I will react the same way no matter who it is, but if you do anything to harm my school, I give you no benefit of the doubt. And he has repeatedly called his loyalty to MSU into account. I will never defend that. He has the same right to express himself as you and I do. If he brings harm to MSU, I'm going after him and dont give a damn over whether it's the flag he suddenly decided had to go after not saying a word about it for 3 years, or any other issue. You said he had balls to do this. I say he leads from behind and guys like that are a dime a dozen.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

I don't disagree with that. But you and I both know our legislature is too nutless to do anything about it. It should be a no-brainer to change it back to the Magnolia Flag, something that is unique to Mississippi and looks good. The Stennis flag is ok, but it's just another generic star flag to me. Unfortunately, you could fit all the gonads at the capitol into a thimble and probably have room to spare. So yeah, it's useless virtue signaling from a useful idiot who hasn't had a problem playing for this state the last 3 years. Only when the Woke Mob agitates is it an issue.

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Rep Given!

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Originally Posted by bobcat91

Maybe you see things differently. I know one color, and that's maroon. I will react the same way no matter who it is, but if you do anything to harm my school, I give you no benefit of the doubt. And he has repeatedly called his loyalty to MSU into account. I will never defend that. He has the same right to express himself as you and I do. If he brings harm to MSU, I'm going after him and dont give a damn over whether it's the flag he suddenly decided had to go after not saying a word about it for 3 years, or any other issue. You said he had balls to do this. I say he leads from behind and guys like that are a dime a dozen.

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Bleeding only maroon is ultimately the issue. That's NOT the only color. It's not the only experience. And you can feel that way. But when there are folks at his own school telling him he can go to hell, go f himself, or go to a HBCU, then yes, I would say that takes a lot of balls.

There's a lot of grown men on this board that wouldn't be able to handle that. Bringing harm to MSU because he threatens to not play one season of football? Seems a tad overkill to call it that when discussing larger societal impacts like this one