One thing I can assure you...

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

EXACTLY. I bet you won't get THAT.

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BULLSHIT. You are moving the goalposts, just like I knew you would.

You wanted "ONE THAT LASTED" I gave you 6 that lasted 10 years ( because everything gets solved eventually, or UGA would still run the Wing T)

You said 0-4 wins.

Nut up.

Which is it? Not 2000-2019 OU or the NE pats?

or 0-4 wins?

Cannot be both?

And I'm in for he leaves MSU with a 60-66% win % ( same as Mullen)

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Originally Posted by SheltonChoked

BULLSHIT. You are moving the goalposts, just like I knew you would.

You wanted "ONE THAT LASTED" I gave you 6 that lasted 10 years ( because everything gets solved eventually, or UGA would still run the Wing T)

You said 0-4 wins.

Nut up.

Which is it? Not 2000-2019 OU or the NE pats?

or 0-4 wins?

Cannot be both?

And I'm in for he leaves MSU with a 60-66% win % ( same as Mullen)

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In the SEC dude. We were talking about the SEC. You need to learn to read.

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Yes, yes, and yes! Can you imagine State having a qb throw for 5000yds lol

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I don't think we had a 3,000 yard passer until Dak did it.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

In the SEC dude. We were talking about the SEC. You need to learn to read.

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Nobody does it until somebody does.

People said Spurrier couldn't succeed in the SEC throwing it all over.
People said any form of the Air Raid couldn't succeed in the SEC until Sumlin, Kingsbury, and Manziel.
People said schools like Bama and LSU were always better off because they played smashmouth football...until they didn't and became even better.

Also, this idea that there are just elite defenses all over the place in the SEC is ridiculous. SEC defenses can be beaten, most of them rather easily, and they can be beaten through the air.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

In the SEC dude. We were talking about the SEC. You need to learn to read.

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https://media2.giphy.com/media/pfHBW...d&rid=200.webp

Nope you said ONE example.

And the NFL is harder than the SEC....

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Originally Posted by smootness

Yet the only time they've had success recently was...when they threw the ball all over the place. Tried Bielema and his run-based attack and it was a disaster, too. Perhaps Arkansas just isn't good. And LOL on thinking Chad Morris is some sort of litmus test on whether a passing attack will work.

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A bad OL and defense are major reasons Morris didn't work out and why the end of Bielema's tenure was awful. Bielema's offense in 2015 actually set passing records, it wasn't as run-dominant as people like to think...pretty sure Brandon Allen vs. Dak Prescott combined for about 15 passing TDs.

Any style will work if you have the right players and coaching. And no style will work unless the OL holds up. Georgia Tech went to an Orange Bowl running the triple option when they had the perfect personnel for it and it got their coach fired when they didn't. Kentucky's offense actually got better after putting a WR at QB somehow. Sometimes you can just never tell.

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Originally Posted by WPS

A bad OL and defense are major reasons Morris didn't work out and why the end of Bielema's tenure was awful. Bielema's offense in 2015 actually set passing records, it wasn't as run-dominant as people like to think...pretty sure Brandon Allen vs. Dak Prescott combined for about 15 passing TDs.

Any style will work if you have the right players and coaching. And no style will work unless the OL holds up. Georgia Tech went to an Orange Bowl running the triple option when they had the perfect personnel for it and it got their coach fired when they didn't. Kentucky's offense actually got better after putting a WR at QB somehow. Sometimes you can just never tell.

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Yeah this is true. Y'alls OL and defense got really bad. That Dak/Allen game was a big 12 game. I still rewatch it on occassion. What a game.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Leach has always been a desperation hire. Look at who has hired him and what they were when they hired him. Hopefully it will work in the SEC West.

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Cite?

For TTU, he was a hot OC with a new system that worked at UK and at OU. His QB's at UK and at OU were very successful (#1 NFL draft pick, #2 in Heisman)

For WSU, he was a proven coach that was able to win 66% of his games, and never had a losing record

After he was let go at TTU, he was suing them for wrongful termination He miraculously took a HC job after his lawsuits were dropped. (coincidentally, his suit claimed TTU was keeping him from getting another job)

But yeah " desperation hire"

Rick Ray is a desperation hire

Ole Miss hiring Ed O was desperation hire

As for the Leach "fit" who was the highest rated WR Leach ever recruited? How many WR on our team are rated better than him? QB?

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Originally Posted by smootness

Texas Tech fans are pissed they ever let him go.

And Washington State fans are crushed right now.

That is a good sign.

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Yes. Going into this coaching search, if I had known Mike Leach would have been an option, he would have been my top choice.