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04-13-2019, 03:14 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I don't know if our QB development is worse or Joe is just unwilling to play completely to their strength. Mullen always played to the QBs strength

Hi Tyler Russell!
04-13-2019, 03:17 PM
chef dixon

I agree that Guidry is just sloppy
04-13-2019, 03:18 PM
msstate7

Auburn has 2 QBs better than us
04-13-2019, 03:18 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

The good news is that we've got an easy early slate to break guys in. I think this team can be good, but somethings have to come together.

I don't know what our identity is yet & we'll need to develop that

My big worry is that teams are going to be able to just run between the tackles vs us and we can't stop it. Then we will have to commit more people to stop the run and they will throw over the top. Look at that Rivers run vs our first team D-line. Chauncey Rivers cut up field, Lovett got collapsed down by the guard and Rivers scores from 10 yards out.
04-13-2019, 03:21 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Hi Tyler Russell!

What? We went from very run heavy to 50/50 run pass in Tyler’s first year as a starter.
04-13-2019, 03:22 PM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Schraeder does not run a 4.4. And he?s nowhere close to ready. That motion isn?t going to work in the SEC.

You ever watched Phillip Rivers throw the football? It's very similar.
04-13-2019, 03:24 PM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

It?s interesting to watch a game and NOT read a game thread. Then come back and read through the thread.
Key looks to be the clear starter to me. It doesn?t look close. Schraeder looks terrible throwing the ball. Relf was more accurate.

I hope we are very run heavy.

I agree that KT is the guy and it's not close. The receivers still suck. So tried of seeing dropped passes.
04-13-2019, 03:25 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

What? We went from very run heavy to 50/50 run pass in Tyler’s first year as a starter.

He also had 43 rushing attempts.
04-13-2019, 03:26 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

You ever watched Phillip Rivers throw the football? It's very similar.

Not even close. Rivers has one of the quickest releases in the NFL.
04-13-2019, 03:27 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

My big worry is that teams are going to be able to just run between the tackles vs us and we can't stop it. Then we will have to commit more people to stop the run and they will throw over the top. Look at that Rivers run vs our first team D-line. Chauncey Rivers cut up field, Lovett got collapsed down by the guard and Rivers scores from 10 yards out.

Maybe, but we've got talented younger guys + Pickering coming in with an easy early slate. I think our DL will be better by the time the SEC schedule heats up.

We have talent, but need to add a grad transfer
04-13-2019, 03:28 PM
msstate7

Nix looks really good for auburn
04-13-2019, 03:29 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Auburn has 2 QBs better than us

How many are transfers? We need to get in that game somehow.
04-13-2019, 03:31 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

How many are transfers? We need to get in that game somehow.

Nix is a 5-star freshman
Willis is a guy they recruited
Cord Sandberg in now
04-13-2019, 03:33 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Maybe, but we've got talented younger guys + Pickering coming in with an easy early slate. I think our DL will be better by the time the SEC schedule heats up.

We have talent, but need to add a grad transfer

We have some talent, but it's not Day 1 talent like Simmons, Chris Jones, Josh Boyd, Fletcher Cox. All of those guys were really good as freshman. Our guys are going to be good, but I don't know if they are going to be good this season. A transfer is a must but who is that guy and can we get him? Really need a WR too. Guidry is the only guy who can separate and he has other weaknesses.
04-13-2019, 03:33 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

You ever watched Phillip Rivers throw the football? It's very similar.

A million times. When G drops back and it’s not a quick toss, his motion is very long. Rivers isn’t long. Just has a funny delivery. G will redshirt and work to fix it.
04-13-2019, 03:34 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Nix looks really good for auburn

I watched Nix a lot in high school. He's a star. Future All SEC QB for sure.
04-13-2019, 03:36 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I watched Nix a lot in high school. He's a star. Future All SEC QB for sure.

Might be this year. He's running 1st team, and it's apparent, he's a stud
04-13-2019, 03:51 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

He also had 43 rushing attempts.

Really? Tyler is the only starting QB that didn’t rush well over 100 times a season. Dak as the backup ran it 33 times. Come on, Dan totally went more pass for Tyler. Big adjustment to his offense.
04-13-2019, 04:05 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Really? Tyler is the only starting QB that didn’t rush well over 100 times a season. Dak as the backup ran it 33 times. Come on, Dan totally went more pass for Tyler. Big adjustment to his offense.

You're right. Running it 43 times with a drop back passer is completely adjusting your offense to your QB.**
04-13-2019, 04:08 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

You're right. Running it 43 times with a drop back passer is completely adjusting your offense to your QB.**

Well 3.3 times per game for 13 games and it will include scrambles and sacks...yeah it was a huge adjustment
04-13-2019, 04:14 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Key looks MUCH better throwing to Whop, Austin Williams, and Spivey. He just has a much better rapport with them. Guidry looked lazy. Osirus just isn't very good. Green had two drops. The KEY is going to be will our coaching staff start the underclass WR's that have a better rapport and appear to be more productive over Guidry and Mitchell? That held us back more than anything when Dan was the coach. I hope it doesn't continue to hold us back. To me, it looked like the issue is more our WR's than Key. Particularly Guidry and Mitchell. Guidry dropped a slant in his chest and then it looked like he completely gave up on another route which wasn't a bad pass. I think that may be why Key looks indecisive at times. He doesn't know what the hell Guidry is going to do and I don't know that he trusts Mitchell all that much. Spivey really stood out too.

I thought the running game looked good and we will be fine there.

I think the defense will be fine too. Not number one in the country but probably top 20 which I can live with. I bet we try to get that guy from Vanderbilt that is in the transfer portal. Aaron Brule continues to impress me. He probably should play a lot somehow.

Kickers didn't look great but I think Christmann and the South Alabama transfer will improve our kicking game.

I agree the coaches need to find the best fits on offense that help the Qb. They failed in this department last year with Fitz passing and Hill blocking. Wherever Williams was in on passing downs it was a totally different comfort level and better completions for Fitz.
04-13-2019, 04:16 PM
NCDawg

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

You ever watched Phillip Rivers throw the football? It's very similar.

I was thinking the same thing. Nothing wrong with Shrader's arm. Looks to me like he throws a very catchable pass. I think we have 3 very good QBs, any of which can get the job done.
04-13-2019, 04:18 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Might be this year. He's running 1st team, and it's apparent, he's a stud

No he's not. Nix will not be the starter for Auburn this year and potentially next year. Joey Gatewood is the starter and is scary good and athletic. Nix is a Stidham clone.
04-13-2019, 04:41 PM
Lord McBuckethead

Alright just now watching the spring game.
1st possession - dropped pass, tackle for loss KH, overthrown
2nd possession, KH run for 15. TE dropped screen pass. KT run for 5. Mitchell catch for 15. KT threw a would be interception. KH for 5 .kH with the 1st down. KH takes a shot at the 1. KH TD. Only threw the ball 2 times that drive, one drop.
04-13-2019, 04:43 PM
Walkerhill

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Originally Posted by Scared_Hitless

I think we will beat TN and KY. Win the out of conference and Ark and OM and its a good season

Exactly, K-State is starting a major rebuild and the other 3 non-conf games are wins. Ark, OM are should wins and UK lost a lot a should be a win again also. Probably our floor is 6 and likely ceiling is 7 unless the defensive tackles and passing game improve considerably. Maybe the narrowest range in the country for a Power 5 team.
04-13-2019, 05:07 PM
Lord McBuckethead

Could we schedule a exhibition game against UM or something for our spring game?
04-13-2019, 05:08 PM
chef dixon

Some quick thoughts:

Whop and Austin Williams looked like they are ready to make a jump. Guidry is basically what is he which is sloppy. At TE Spivey played pretty well and Farrod couldn't catch anything today.

KT seemed to settle in and make some good throws. Mayden definitely is more fluid but we didn't exactly let him loose and the pick 6 was obviously bad. Good to see Shrader play, but I don't see any scenario where he doesn't redshirt.

Kylin will be a beast next year. Gibson isn't much of a drop off and the O-line looks the part.

Marquiss Spencer is a grown ass man. D-line will improve as the season goes on so I'm glad our schedule is soft to start.

We have a quite few NFL players in the back 7 on D.

We have too many punters for none of them to step up and at least boot it closer to 45 yards per kick.

The 7v7 portion I felt was pretty pointless, but I'm not getting paid 2 million to make that decision.
04-13-2019, 05:15 PM
Bothrops

Cumbest will help the passing game, but we should have been able to pick up a good WR transfer. Since we couldn't, we are more limited on offense and I think the ceiling is 6 with Kentucky, Arkansas and OM as possible conference wins, but think we could drop one of those and go 2-6 6-6.
04-13-2019, 05:16 PM
Lord McBuckethead

Well the rumor this morning about the spring game being scrapped or moved to a standard practice got me. Also the rumor the baseball game got moved to tomorrow, got me
04-13-2019, 05:33 PM
Cooterpoot

We have no WRs, QB play is marginal at best. Same as last year. OL will be ok, same as last year. DL will see a big drop off, but will be ok if we stay healthy and down wear down in games. Not many concerns at LB and DB.
I’m still not a fan of this offense, but Joe has this year to convince me otherwise by showing some sort of improvement somewhere. Even if it’s just better QB reads and WR routes. I’m going 7-5 this year. But we’ll have to earn it. TN game could get us to 8 wins. KY loss to 6 wins. Just need to see something from this offense.
04-13-2019, 05:35 PM
Lord McBuckethead

Does Guidry get a catch or just 2 drops on 5 targets.
04-13-2019, 05:40 PM
Coach007

In spring games, in look more toward trenches and defense.

1- Our defense will be top 10 again, and the following season will be a major concern.

2- our Dl is not great, but it's is deep. I see that spot being the surprise of the defense. If we do add a grad transfer, it will just add to it.

3- OL... cross vs rivers..... simply put... Cross will leave early. He is ready now. Needs more weight, but could play.

4- I can not imagine there being no improvement on offense, specifically passing. We have 2 guys that should be able to handle that offense and 1 who will be a beast within 1 year. The transition Shrader made in a short period of time is leaps above what we have seen... ever. If he was the man, he would be ready and this team would not be worse off. Having said that, he will red shirt because he wont make us better. If either of our QBs can reach 60% we will challenge everyone.
04-13-2019, 05:49 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Cumbest will help the passing game, but we should have been able to pick up a good WR transfer. Since we couldn't, we are more limited on offense and I think the ceiling is 6 with Kentucky, Arkansas and OM as possible conference wins, but think we could drop one of those and go 2-6 6-6.

OM, ARK, and UK suck ass. We will win all of our OOC and win those three plus the TN game and finish at least 8-4. It’s not that hard. We have more talent then those 3 teams you named. Only games which are sure losses imo are Alabama, LSU, and A&M. I really don’t understand this negative taint you guys seem to have with Moorhead and this team.
04-13-2019, 05:51 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

We have no WRs, QB play is marginal at best. Same as last year. OL will be ok, same as last year. DL will see a big drop off, but will be ok if we stay healthy and down wear down in games. Not many concerns at LB and DB.
I’m still not a fan of this offense, but Joe has this year to convince me otherwise by showing some sort of improvement somewhere. Even if it’s just better QB reads and WR routes. I’m going 7-5 this year. But we’ll have to earn it. TN game could get us to 8 wins. KY loss to 6 wins. Just need to see something from this offense.

Ky is not good but at least you are saying 7-5 so I’ll give you that. Kentucky hasn’t beaten us in Starkville since what the Croom years?
04-13-2019, 06:14 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Wow. Shrader is one hell of an athlete. Better feet and quicker than Fitz.

Looks exactly like Matt Jones out there

Omg..: Matt Jones ran a 4.3. Try again
04-13-2019, 06:16 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

And Shrader is 6'5" & ran a 4.4

No. No he doesn't. Not electronic timer. Not close. Stop.
04-13-2019, 06:20 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I don?t get much from a spring game but it?s going to be a bit of a struggle this year. I?m guessing 7-5 max. I predict Mayden ends up at QB.

Well considering again this week I had two coaches again say it wasn't close between kt and Mayden, of Mayden is an we won't win 6. Cause kt has wet the bed and Jomo has hit panic button.
04-13-2019, 06:21 PM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by mparkerfd20

Talk to me in the fall. We'll see who's closer to being right. 7 is the ceiling.

I'd say 9 is ceiling and 6 the floor. Our D is still pretty good; back 7 are nasty good. I think our OL and RB are good enough to help us along early and if passing game develops that is where we find our ceiling if not then the floor.
04-13-2019, 06:23 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Well considering again this week I had two coaches again say it wasn't close between kt and Mayden, of Mayden is an we won't win 6. Cause kt has wet the bed and Jomo has hit panic button.

Do you think we'll use designed rb carries more this season?
04-13-2019, 06:26 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Atta boy, brule.

I was probably a little too amped to win the recruiting battle for him over ark, but I had a feeling about him. Hopefully he pans out

They like him

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