Tweeter says we have our new baseball coach

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Unfortunately- baseball recruiting is the hardest of the Big 3. Recruits in baseball these days are committing earlier and getting locked in with coaches. Then you add in that by the end of the season- nearly all of the decent recruits are signed with programs. So anybody we hire- gets nothing to add recruiting-wise for the 2019 season. Our new coach coaches his 1st season with a completely inherited roster. So now he starts recruiting- and so many recruits are already committed to other programs- he has to get the best of the rest. So its going to be until 2020 until our new coach starts getting his recruits into the program and on the field. Cann was really awesome on the recruiting trial- and you see the minimal impact his guys have had this year paired with Cohen's leftovers.

No matter who we hire- its going to be a rebuild

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More reason to hand a blank check to the best coach we can identify who isn?t 60+ years old. It?s embarrassing to build the best stadium in the country and we can?t even make a regional for the first 3 seasons. Go get someone so that when 2020 rolls around we at least know should build a winner that won?t need another rebuild in 2 years, which is the rollercoaster we?ve been on for the last 15-20 years. If we gamble on an assistant or a guy without much track record, then we may set the program back a decade and by the time we find the right coach and let him spend 3 years building a program, we will no longer have the new dude to sell and probably be bypassed by a half dozen new stadiums built in the interim.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

I can tell you for fact that if we want to keep our recruiting classes in tact then butch is who we better hire. Had I rather have McDonnell... of course but you can rest assured that the only way we hire anybody is after Him, Schlosnagle, and Corbin have said no... so if butch is plan b I'd say that's a heck of a plan b.

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If we hire a McDonnell, Corbin, or Schlossnagle level coach, we don?t have to worry about a mass exodus of recruits. Maybe a couple head elsewhere, but they are probably replaced by high level recruits who were interested in the coach?s previous program, so it ends up being basically a wash, plus we have a more proven HC and if we can start winning again quickly, guys committed 2-3 years out are less likely to bail now because they see the program is heading back in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by dawgs

If we hire a McDonnell, Corbin, or Schlossnagle level coach, we don?t have to worry about a mass exodus of recruits. Maybe a couple head elsewhere, but they are probably replaced by high level recruits who were interested in the coach?s previous program, so it ends up being basically a wash, plus we have a more proven HC and if we can start winning again quickly, guys committed 2-3 years out are less likely to bail now because they see the program is heading back in the right direction.

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Do you not think Cohen would hire any of those 3 if he could? We are working under the assumption that Cohen gauged their interest and there was not much interest. That is if we end up hiring butch... we may hire one of those guys, but my point is if we hire butch it's bc those guys said no... and butch is one heck of a back up plan.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

That's how they identify Rebs.**
You click on that sheriff badge below the poster's name you want to give rep, not yours. Hope that helps.

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So you are saying I'm not being singled out? This is just so we can't rep ourselves? Damn.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

And the previous coach won 28 and then 36. Who knows where he would've been his 3rd year....I'm just saying what Butch has done at AU isn't special.

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Galloway?s firing had nothing to do with the on field product. He was a winning coach too

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Galloway?s firing had nothing to do with the on field product. He was a winning coach too

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I know that. But what is Butch doing that he didn’t? Nothing yet. People claiming Butch turned them around blah blah blah are full of crap.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Do you not think Cohen would hire any of those 3 if he could? We are working under the assumption that Cohen gauged their interest and there was not much interest. That is if we end up hiring butch... we may hire one of those guys, but my point is if we hire butch it's bc those guys said no... and butch is one heck of a back up plan.

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Butch is probably a good back up plan or if Cohen thinks he is the right guy then I am all for him. Saying McDonnell is probably like Texas coming after Saban. You might try but it probably isn't happening.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Do you not think Cohen would hire any of those 3 if he could? We are working under the assumption that Cohen gauged their interest and there was not much interest. That is if we end up hiring butch... we may hire one of those guys, but my point is if we hire butch it's bc those guys said no... and butch is one heck of a back up plan.

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Making a decision in March when the season ends at the end of June would be dumb on cohen’s part. I don’t care if you put out feelers now and they say they aren’t interested, you wait until they are out of the postseason and ask again. Most guys would probably say no they aren’t interested in march when they have almost 3 months left before they hope to play for a natty. So if Cohen has made an unofficial offer, he did it wrong.

Thompson may have given an indication that he would be interested in talking about the job after season end and the other top 2-3 candidates gave a negative response, but I can't believe Cohen has his man at this point. I have to believe Cohen is still going sifting through other possibilities. At least I want to believe that. I'm not necessarily against Thompson btw......

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I know that. But what is Butch doing that he didn’t? Nothing yet. People claiming Butch turned them around blah blah blah are full of crap.

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My point is Galloway and butch are both good coaches. Just bc Galloway was on his way to winning there does not make butch?s winning there unimpressive.

That said, I would aim higher than butch. If C34 is right that we cannot get an elite established coach, then I?m fine with turning to butch.

As you guys finally realized with Mullen- coaches negotiate while the season is going on for open jobs. We’ll have our coach locked down by the end of May. From there it will be just waiting until their season is over to announce it

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Originally Posted by Coach34

As you guys finally realized with Mullen- coaches negotiate while the season is going on for open jobs. We’ll have our coach locked down by the end of May. From there it will be just waiting until their season is over to announce it

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Originally Posted by Coach34

As you guys finally realized with Mullen- coaches negotiate while the season is going on for open jobs. We’ll have our coach locked down by the end of May. From there it will be just waiting until their season is over to announce it

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I don’t think many coaches start negotiating for new gigs when a national title is still a possibility. And for our top targets and our safety choice, a national title is absolutely still on the table for all of them this year. Mullen has never been in the running for a national title late in the season except for 2014, and after the bama game it was still a long shot we’d get in as a 2nd sec West program. They might indicate they would be open to discussions later, but I think that’s about it for now. Negotiating for other gigs right now would be the equivalent of Dan interviewing for jobs at the end of September.