This all day long. Things are about to change in a big way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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This all day long. Things are about to change in a big way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Most of that group are DEs. Interior linemen are what we need which is the reason Lovett is really a much bigger loss than Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
3-4 de maybe, but I think Adams, Kobe, rivers, autry, Odom, and Robinson can play dt in 4-3.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
The thing that bothers me in this is that all of a sudden many on this board turned on both Williams and Lovitt with: "we didn't need them anyway, they won't qualify, drama queens, not really State types, we'll get someone else better ( a little late maybe), etc. Maybe new staff has a better plan b4 Feb. Hail State!
Would you rather a full blown melt, fire Moorhead type reaction? I mean either way, we are not getting them. Frick both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
I think Jackie did. Maybe Rockey. Croom didn't at least at first because we were on probation and actually did get hammered. Dan... Not so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
I think it's imperative in the SEC to have a relationship with a booster where the coach has a "knows but doesn't know" situation. I think that's what is different about Ole Miss- the coaches know. However like about Saban knows what goes on or knows that it is going on but he doesn't know all the specifics. He just knows that he wants player X and he asks that it happens by whatever means necessary.
No major meltdown but consider this a shot across the bow by UNM. Have great faith in Coach Joe and new staff from what I have read to date. Recruiting automatically has much better potential with the country club gone. As many posted, with the cop out by the spineless NCAA, a version of the "Wild, Wild West" may be here to stay whether most like it or not. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You don?t understand do you? This kid was gonna flip for awhile. They waited for the right time, so yeah it makes perfect sense. GeezQuote:
Originally Posted by Percho
No, but some on this board should be able to understand that, as an MSU fan, you can get pissed about losing a good recruit that was committed without it being a "freak out" or a "meltdown".Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
My point also, tee'd off/disappointed. Unless our new staff has a different plan ( I have no inside info and appreciate the info I get here from those who do), these guys who were long committed and back out (unless a plant by a UNM type) have to be replaced by someone hopefully as good or even better. I wonder about the other five still committed, but didn't sign. One post considered them now a non-commit in referring to Lovett. February will tell the tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
McDowell- probably get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Mason- probably get him.
Watson- probably get him.
Furdge- if we want him.
Patterson- JUCO.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if we got them all. Eventually we get Patterson after JUCO. Three are out of state players trying to get mostly local offers from SEC schools. Furdge is a numbers guy.
So things looking better on mason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Thanks much. Hope it goes that way with a surprise OL man or DB. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I thought so?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And remember even if we signed all four of those we have some spots still open which I am sure we will probably use on OL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
So long as Bama doesn't offer, yesQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It was a question. Last I heard, he was ark. I do not keep up as well as I used to thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Good deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
From my understanding, Ark is not a huge factor. Bama is a factor & Tennessee could become a factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
A Bama offer is not expected though
Pruitt is becoming a headacheQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Eh, we'll see. He has relationships right now & can sell Bama.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That will deteriorate over time.
Can someone please replace "senior member" with "The Finebaum of Elitedawgs" for Shotgun (similar to IYON being referred to as Lateral Move)???
I swear he just posts some outlandish nonsense just to keep a thread going...as there is no way he truly means the garbage he has spewed at the beginning of this thread. If I'm wrong and he does, the first step to rational thinking is to stop following teenagers on the Twitters...
Can someone put "Ignorant Dumbass" in your profile?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Ole Miss conspiracy, we didn’t want him anyway, grades excuse excuse excuse...
Regardless of the reason, we better sign a OL and DL 3* or better in February to replace Willians and Lovett. If don’t, we played the Olive Branch duo wrong and gave OM two players.
Not melting down, but we are now dealing with who is left by February whether we like it or not. We still have to close and fill needs. They were committed and now not for us. They didn't suddenly become bad players. New staff will need to come through in a tight time frame. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
So you're advocating paying players to sign with us? Ordered up by the coach to big boosters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Not ordered up by the coach- from a certain point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
Look, it's not what I would like or prefer to do but the NCAA has made it clear that you can go 75 in a 65. If we don't we aren't going to maximize our potential as a program. That's just the reality. I think we should only pay in state players and if we get turned in we need to hire that law firm in Birmingham to handle it rather than over sanction ourselves.
Thanks. I have to go back to work this week. I’ll catch up on recruiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Well, maybe we can flip Hyman with the promise of playing time.* UNM will have 6 DL signees if Lovett signs with them b4 Hyman.
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDog13
Johnquarise Patterson, Pearl WR, has now decommitted. I?m assuming this is us moving on from him?
Non-qualifier. Does OM take him too just for appearance sake?Quote:
Originally Posted by HaggardDawg
Probably, but it's debatable on if dropping him is a good decision or if we should've signed & placed him since we won't sign 25 guys anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaggardDawg
Plainly, it's not totally clear what the coaching staff is thinking here
LOL. Does a bear shit in the woods?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Hell, they've probably got a new Waynsboro lined up & can get him eligible.
Absolutely nothing would surprise me at this point. There is zero deterrent
You guys realize that OM doesn't have a single OL committed or signed?
Wow... they lose 1 this year and 3 next season. Could be 4 next season if little declaresQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
They'll be decent in 2018 but that 2019 year train is coming fastQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Oh that?s bad news for the bears.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
They’ll flip a few studs from UGA & Bama before Feb. Why not? No consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
He may be a 4* juco receiver in a couple if years. Hopefully we will be good enough that he will want to come here.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7