Todd Grantham possible new DC?

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I hear ya but with so many different route responsibilities and RPO's in the game I understand how hard it is. Even last night with 2 great defenses and DC's, you saw multiple coverage breakdowns leading to big plays. Heck OJ Howard did it to them two years in a row.

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I understand some coverage breakdown. I also understand just getting beaten because the guy across from you is better. I do not understand our secondary getting routinely torched for 20-30 yard gains. There is a difference.

With all of these defensive coaching changes, what does this mean for recruiting? Such as Willie Gay?

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Originally Posted by VandelayIndustries

With all of these defensive coaching changes, what does this mean for recruiting? Such as Willie Gay?

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If I have to choose I go for the coach like this. Those Lville numbers are impressive to me. Don't wanna lose Willie but a very good to great coach makes a world of difference.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Think the coaches need to go sit in on some practices with the Seahawks and Patriots if they think they are playing press coverage right now. They might be calling for press coverage but they sure as shit ain't playing press coverage correctly. Our DB play has been awful since Banks & Slay got drafted.

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I think you need to rewatch what those teams do. Especially, the Seahawks who play a lot of Cover 1 robber and Cover 3. Thy may press one side (and not Sherman nearly as much as people think) but play bail on the other side. They will also drop back to 5-7 yards off depending on down, distance, where they are on the field, disguise, etc

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Think the coaches need to go sit in on some practices with the Seahawks and Patriots if they think they are playing press coverage right now. They might be calling for press coverage but they sure as shit ain't playing press coverage correctly. Our DB play has been awful since Banks & Slay got drafted.

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No we need some of those CB's from the Seahawks & Patriots that's the difference. Calhoun & Redmond was a good CB duo they just both were injured at times last year.

I think we get Willie Gay regardless of Sirmon. As a matter of fact it might help us if we get Grantham. Louisville is a hot name in recruits eyes nowadays. To say were getting their DC would help out I think.

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Originally Posted by VandelayIndustries

With all of these defensive coaching changes, what does this mean for recruiting? Such as Willie Gay?

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I don't care who the DC is we shouldn't lose Willie.

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Originally Posted by mstatefan91

I understand some coverage breakdown. I also understand just getting beaten because the guy across from you is better. I do not understand our secondary getting routinely torched for 20-30 yard gains. There is a difference.

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Two of the best last night gave up multiple 15+ yard gains in the passing game. Especially Clemson against Bama's D. Not making excuses but you are going to have to live with that with offenses today. It's going to happen. Hopefully another year and growth in our IQ makes a big difference. Our secondary was poor but don't undersell the difficulty they have with today's game.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Two of the best last night gave up multiple 15+ yard gains in the passing game. Especially Clemson against Bama's D. Not making excuses but you are going to have to live with that with offenses today. It's going to happen. Hopefully another year and growth in our IQ makes a big difference. Our secondary was poor but don't undersell the difficulty they have with today's game.

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Pass Defense:

281.5 yards (120th)

That's all I have to say

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Originally Posted by mstatefan91

Pass Defense:

281.5 yards (120th)

That's all I have to say

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That per game of half?

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Think the coaches need to go sit in on some practices with the Seahawks and Patriots if they think they are playing press coverage right now. They might be calling for press coverage but they sure as shit ain't playing press coverage correctly. Our DB play has been awful since Banks & Slay got drafted.

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The last time we did anything associated with the Seahawks, our tackling went to shit, and it hasn't been the same since.

I'm hearing good things.

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Originally Posted by tireddawg

I'm hearing good things.

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I guess that sunshine pumping was accurate this time.

Something I just remembered and double checked -
A member of the Louisville offensive staff received info in "Wakeyleaks" and passed it on to Grantham. UL's AD went ballistic. That, combined with the drubbing they took in the Citrus - and I can see Petrino asking Grantham to move on. Remember, Petrino is not a loyal guy and is willing to scapegoat anyone.....

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I guess that sunshine pumping was accurate this time.

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Yep. I hadn't heard anything at that point. He does pump though. Good fan, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Steve is saying a deal with Grantham & MSU is in the works.

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If true we may actually be starting to get serious about football.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

We played press coverage plenty this year we just weren't that good at it. Peters played almost exclusively press coverage.

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There you go with facts again. MSU ran a press cover 3 plenty this past season. They also ran a lot of standard cover 3, which the complainers about a "cushion" probably cannot tell you a lot about.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Something I just remembered and double checked -
A member of the Louisville offensive staff received info in "Wakeyleaks" and passed it on to Grantham. UL's AD went ballistic. That, combined with the drubbing they took in the Citrus - and I can see Petrino asking Grantham to move on. Remember, Petrino is not a loyal guy and is willing to scapegoat anyone.....

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His defense played well most of the year and then all of the sudden after the Wake game, they gave up 36 in a loss to Houston, 41 in a loss to UK and then 29 in the bowl loss to LSU.

Well this is exciting...

Ventured over to a Louisville Scout message board. They are split on him leaving. Sounds like we are getting him.

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Originally Posted by KB21

There you go with facts again. MSU ran a press cover 3 plenty this past season. They also ran a lot of standard cover 3, which the complainers about a "cushion" probably cannot tell you a lot about.

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The only legitimate complaints about cushion were Chris Wilson's last year as d-coordinator when he wasted 2 excellent corners by playing them 10 yards off the LOS.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

The only legitimate complaints about cushion were Chris Wilson's last year as d-coordinator when he wasted 2 excellent corners by playing them 10 yards off the LOS.

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It's a wonder there was enough good film on them considering that shit, lol.

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Originally Posted by mstatefan91

Pass Defense:

281.5 yards (120th)

That's all I have to say

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And doesn't contradict i thing I said. I even said our coverage was poor. But you have to understand the change in offenses. In 2008 you had 3 teams give up more than 200 yards per game passing in the conference. This year you had only 4 that didn't. It's been this way since 2012 really.

Weakness in the cover 3. Corners bail to get deep to their zones. Good offensive schemes will recognize it & have pre-set audible to capitilize on it. Cover 3 is less than ideal against good running teams unless you have stud on the d line. This should be run when you have good balance in d line, secondary & linebackers.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Sirmon is gone.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

And doesn't contradict i thing I said. I even said our coverage was poor. But you have to understand the change in offenses. In 2008 you had 3 teams give up more than 200 yards per game passing in the conference. This year you had only 4 that didn't. It's been this way since 2012 really.

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Didn't say it did. Just um... want it corrected as best we can. We can only go up (I hope)

I'm excited about Grantham if this is true. One question I did have though, will Sirmon leaving be made public or will they try to make a good PR move by just announcing the hiring of Grantham? Considering we've had so much turnover at DC that may be a good move.

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Originally Posted by bulldog2488

I'm excited about Grantham if this is true. One question I did have though, will Sirmon leaving be made public or will they try to make a good PR move by just announcing the hiring of Grantham? Considering we've had so much turnover at DC that may be a good move.

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It will be presented as follows:

CL: Inside sources say Sirmon is gone to Colorado.

Keenum: We never said that.

CL: We are sticking by our story.

MSU: Sirmon is gone to Colorado.

CL: See we told you so.

MSU/Keenum: You suck.

CL: Grantham to MSU

Keenum: We want to break the damn story!

Grantham just trying to get a raise from Louisville. I expect Rhoades will be ******* choice. Good choice.

I don't mean to rain on the parade, I'd be ecstatic if we got Grantham, but... if he's indeed closely linked to the Wakeyleaks stuff, would he be in danger of getting a show cause?

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Originally Posted by thf24

I don't mean to rain on the parade, I'd be ecstatic if we got Grantham, but... if he's indeed closely linked to the Wakeyleaks stuff, would he be in danger of getting a show cause?

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What NCAA violation occurred?

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Originally Posted by thf24

I don't mean to rain on the parade, I'd be ecstatic if we got Grantham, but... if he's indeed closely linked to the Wakeyleaks stuff, would he be in danger of getting a show cause?

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Show cause? Where is the NCAA violation?

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Originally Posted by thf24

I don't mean to rain on the parade, I'd be ecstatic if we got Grantham, but... if he's indeed closely linked to the Wakeyleaks stuff, would he be in danger of getting a show cause?

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Those are reserved for shitbirds

Lol you are probably right! But thats kind of what I was hoping to avoid.

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Originally Posted by mstatefan91

It will be presented as follows:

CL: Inside sources say Sirmon is gone to Colorado.

Keenum: We never said that.

CL: We are sticking by our story.

MSU: Sirmon is gone to Colorado.

CL: See we told you so.

MSU/Keenum: You suck.

CL: Grantham to MSU

Keenum: We want to break the damn story!

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

What NCAA violation occurred?

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I see, didn't know if there was any debate over this or not. Good to know.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Those are reserved for shitbirds

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to I seen it dawg again.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to I seen it dawg again.

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I got him for you. That was a good one.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Grantham just trying to get a raise from Louisville. I expect Rhoades will be ******* choice. Good choice.

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I'm curious if CDM sought out Grantham saw mutual interest then told sirmon to start looking?

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Originally Posted by ILOATHEBears

I'm curious if CDM sought out Grantham saw mutual interest then told sirmon to start looking?

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Not sure. Perhaps

Thread on the pack saying he will be our new DC. We will see.