Random Poster's rumors from Fall camp

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Right, your opinion. But your opinion doesn't mean shit to our Coaching Staff. What does matter is watching our players every day in practice. Dan thinks Shump deserves to play, He is the head coach of a top 5 offense Two years in a row. What's your claim to fame, a moderator on ED. If you actually look at Hollaways Stats , he is just as good as anyone. Hell you can nit pick any offense in the History of football and say it wasn't fully optimized. I scratch my head sometimes at what Dan does but looking at the Big Picture, I am satisfied.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Who do you pull off the field to go with a fullback? If we pull a wr, I think I'd rather see 2 TEs than a fullback

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Whomever. I want to see multiple personnel formations. That is the best way to maximize talent. We could use the fullback 20% of the time just off the top of my head.

Dear, Ross, Gray, Myles, Couch or whatever 6'5" WR is ready, Holloway, Aeris, Shumpert, and Lee/Gibson should be the guys getting the Lion's share of the touches. Add in Thomas and Justin Johnson at TE as well in that group since I almost forgot about them.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

My bad on the numbers but my point remains that our starting running back that Dan thinks is a great blocker had zero rushing touchdowns and Aeris had more in limited action. Aeris at the very least is ready and could be a 1k rusher for us at worst and probably would have last year as well had he been afforded the opportunity. Lee and Gibson are both ready as well.

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I understand but my point is you are comparing numbers for two totally different players. As an APB scat back type, Holloway wouldn't be getting many touches inside the red zone which severely limit his TD numbers. Those touches will go to a more traditional power back. Or QB in our offense.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

It's a message board, I'm discussing the team. Never said I know more than Dan, so that's a silly thing to even bring up. That being said...Dan has been wrong about Shumpert for 3 years now, yet he's going to be trotted back out there again it appears. So just because someone isn't calling Dan a football God on a message board, doesn't mean he thinks he's a bad coach or that I could do better. It's just critiquing & discussing one aspect of his coaching that appears to be a poor pattern.

I continually get amazed at how we constantly have to have conversations about whether other posters are being too optimistic, pessimistic, or whatever. I joined into a discussion, gave my opinion, called it my opinion, and left it at that. Never said my opinion amounted to a hill of beans, bc it doesn't. So I'm not sure why you said that about my "claim to fame" or anything else. I'm just discussing the topic.

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YOU BE RIGHT-GOT A LITTLE WORKED UP. BUT SHUMP HASN'T PLAYED A DOWN YET. HOW CAN YOU NOT GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT BEING RANKED #1 OFFENSE IN THE SEC. I SURE HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE TOP 5 IN THE SEC.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Sheesh Bro.... It's a message board.

You and the guy that thinks any bit of slight negativity on Elitedawgs affects recruiting need to go take paranoid pills & hang out in a bathroom stall

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Coming from you? I am amused

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Get a grip man. Geez.

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What did I say that is wrong? all the tangents you have been on in the past. But thanks for your input. waiting to see what you disagree with in my post. Geez. are you just mad I made a smartass comment to Cadaver?

Back to the fall camp discussion...saw it mentioned elsewhere that Jamal Peters wasn't at the scrimmage. Anyone know what's up?

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

"It takes 3 weeks to get a good RB ready to play college football"- Kyle Whittingham

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but is that RB ready to start?

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Aeris had 3 rushing TD. Holloway had 5 rec TD from the backfield mostly, if I recall correctly. Holloway is an APB running back and averaged over 100 all purpose yards per game. No he is not the RB to get red zone TD rushing. What we have to replace is Dak's 10 rushing TD's either from the QB position again or a combination of QB/RB.

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Agree, Holloway also averaged 105 yard total offense per game. I'll agree he is not an every down back but he is a very good player. i just hope that one of of other backs steps up and becomes our every down type back. If it is Aeris then great.

Good Gracious, the next two weeks can't get here soon enough.... until I actually see the current product on the field, I will reserve criticism. What guys did last year has no actual relevance on what they do this year. There's been a whole off season to deal with issues... What if Shump has a breakout year? What if Holloway gets 1000 yds?.. we won't really know until it gets underway. I think this year we will see a retooled completely different look than we have seen the last few years.

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Originally Posted by Barking 13

Good Gracious, the next two weeks can't get here soon enough.... until I actually see the current product on the field, I will reserve criticism. What guys did last year has no actual relevance on what they do this year. There's been a whole off season to deal with issues... What if Shump has a breakout year? What if Holloway gets 1000 yds?.. we won't really know until it gets underway. I think this year we will see a retooled completely different look than we have seen the last few years.

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I am for to being in agreements. Ready for next two weeks to be going by. Until thens I am afraid of many posters having bad case of the sandy ******s.

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Not being directions at any persons. But for to gentle reminder this of time of year is best time for to be Bulldog fan. Have fun and hopes of great season ahead.

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Back to the fall camp discussion...saw it mentioned elsewhere that Jamal Peters wasn't at the scrimmage. Anyone know what's up?

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I heard he has a minor injury.

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Back to the fall camp discussion...saw it mentioned elsewhere that Jamal Peters wasn't at the scrimmage. Anyone know what's up?

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Concussion like symptoms. They didn't let him play because he hadn't passed all the test to be cleared.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I understand but my point is you are comparing numbers for two totally different players. As an APB scat back type, Holloway wouldn't be getting many touches inside the red zone which severely limit his TD numbers. Those touches will go to a more traditional power back. Or QB in our offense.

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Our offense works better with a between the tackles Vick Ballard type. Holloway absolutely should get touches but he should not be the primary back. That's why our offense looked like it did when Perkins and Holloway were the primary guys. That's my main point.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I heard he has a minor injury.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Concussion like symptoms. They didn't let him play because he hadn't passed all the test to be cleared.

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Thanks...hopefully he'll get well soon. That's not something he needs to rush though.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Our offense works better with a between the tackles Vick Ballard type. Holloway absolutely should get touches but he should not be the primary back. That's why our offense looked like it did when Perkins and Holloway were the primary guys. That's my main point.

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No where did I say Holloway was the feature back. He is an APB. DAK was the feature back. This offense is its best with the QB as your feature back. Dak lead the team in rushing the last 2 years and only 4 attempts short of leading the team in 2013. The best year was 2014 when you had a complementary back who could carry it a lot as well. But our second best offense under Mullen was last year. This system really needs a QB who is at least a threat to run the option. Even under Myer, most of his best offenses featured a QB that can run.

I think it's going to be a frustrating year to say the least. We don't know any of our backfield.

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Originally Posted by DudyDawg

I think it's going to be a frustrating year to say the least. We don't know any of our backfield.

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Wut??

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

No where did I say Holloway was the feature back. He is an APB. DAK was the feature back. This offense is its best with the QB as your feature back. Dak lead the team in rushing the last 2 years and only 4 attempts short of leading the team in 2013. The best year was 2014 when you had a complementary back who could carry it a lot as well. But our second best offense under Mullen was last year. This system really needs a QB who is at least a threat to run the option. Even under Myer, most of his best offenses featured a QB that can run.

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I know you didn't say that but I am afraid Dan will use him as the primary back like last year.

I think Dan's offense works best with a dual threat QB and a running back that can run between the tackles and get yards. Robinson is probably the best template of what we want in a running back from a skill set standpoint.

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Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely

Wut??

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This entire thread is arguing about running backs and we don't have a named starter at qb, do we?

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Originally Posted by DudyDawg

This entire thread is arguing about running backs and we don't have a named starter at qb, do we?

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You think the coaches are speculating this as well?? Really??? You can't think that. This is all by design. I would bet my mortgage that Mullen has laid out how series are split at QB for South Alabama, and how reps are going to be allocated for the first 4 games of the year...but he would NEVER let that get out!! You want kids preparing right now like they're all gonna start

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Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely

You think the coaches are speculating this as well?? Really??? You can't think that. This is all by design. I would bet my mortgage that Mullen has laid out how series are split at QB for South Alabama, and how reps are going to be allocated for the first 4 games of the year...but he would NEVER let that get out!! You want kids preparing right now like they're all gonna start

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I think that the S. Alabama game will be a part of the evaluation for guys who are neck and neck. South Carolina will narrow down even more and by LSU we will see who the real starters are going to be.

As a matter of fact, there are some starters like Fred Ross that I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't play or play very little versus S. Alabama.

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

As a matter of fact, there are some starters like Fred Ross that I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't play or play very little versus S. Alabama.

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I wont be surprised if the USA game is within 10 at half. We gonna need Ross

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

I think that the S. Alabama game will be a part of the evaluation for guys who are neck and neck. South Carolina will narrow down even more and by LSU we will see who the real starters are going to be.

As a matter of fact, there are some starters like Fred Ross that I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't play or play very little versus S. Alabama.

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We say this EVERY year and it NEVER happens. Dan has shown us in the past that whomever starts game one is who will start the rest of the year barring injuries. "Oh don't worry about those players- we won't see Zach Jackson out there by game three."

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

I wont be surprised if the USA game is within 10 at half. We gonna need Ross

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I agree. They are a solid program even though they are new. We'll still win but as you said we're going to have to use our main guys probably into the fourth quarter.

An earlier thread stated that USA has its entire starting DL out for the year. If we can't dominate them and run the ball, we better go back to the drawing board ASAP.

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

An earlier thread stated that USA has its entire starting DL out for the year. If we can't dominate them and run the ball, we better go back to the drawing board ASAP.

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They will give us trouble for a half. They have more players and our QB's are green. You guys need to understand that we are not going to be near as good as we have been the last 2 years. We couldnt run on Troy or La Tech last year

The South Alabama game will be a blowout. Their starting DL are all out with injuries. We should be able to name the score. If we don't it's gonna be a long year.

We'll pull away in the 2nd when they are worn down

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

I wont be surprised if the USA game is within 10 at half. We gonna need Ross

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I'll take MSU -10 1/2 first half spread for as much as anyone will take.

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

They will give us trouble for a half. They have more players and our QB's are green. You guys need to understand that we are not going to be near as good as we have been the last 2 years. We couldnt run on Troy or La Tech last year

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LA Tech's rushing defense was ranked 13th in the country last year. The following week we ran for over 200 yards against Kentucky. Dak didn't play but one or two series against Troy. Not saying out running game wasn't below par last year, but let's put the games in perspective. Those 2 games plus the Kentucky game were all 20+ point wins.

ETA. So Alabama lost to NCST last year 63-13 and gave up 330 yards rushing (over 250 yards rushing 5 different games last year) and over 250 yards passing.

So Mullen and our coaching staff are about to turn into the Charlie Shira years without Dak? Yes, Dak may be the greatest MSU offensive player I'll ever see, (my late Father said that Jackie Parker was the best he ever saw), but surely our 2016 cupboard is not this bare. "Shirley", I won't have to wait decades for another good team.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I'll take MSU -10 1/2 first half spread for as much as anyone will take.

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Agree.. And the filanl will be as bad as we want it to be...
Defense and special teams score once each..

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(Don't go all ballistic. I'm just kinding with you guy.)

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I'll take MSU -10 1/2 first half spread for as much as anyone will take.

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It's actually 14 1/2 right now

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

So Mullen and our coaching staff are about to turn into the Charlie Shira years without Dak? Yes, Dak may be the greatest MSU offensive player I'll ever see, (my late Father said that Jackie Parker was the best he ever saw), but surely our 2016 cupboard is not this bare. "Shirley", I won't have to wait decades for another good team.

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We would be fine if we just use Aeris as the primary running back. I think that's the key. If we let him play and he can get 1000 yards and 10 rushing touchdown we'll be fine. If we find ways to involve Dear/Lee/Gibson even more we'll be that much more explosive and balanced. The biggest thing about Fitz is he is going to turn the ball over more than Dak- who very rarely turned it over so I'm not saying Fitz has a problem it's just who he is compared to. I don't think we can expect Fitz to be as effective a runner as Dak. I'm not saying that Fitz is bad, slow, or etc. Just that I don't expect him to be as productive as Dak running the ball.

I'm not expecting us to be fourth in the SEC this year. I'm expecting middle of the pack or lower half.

We do a lot of those things and we will have a good year. I see at least 7 wins. Hail State!

Maybe...just maybe if some of y'all think you've figured out who C34's alter-ego is, you should consider not blasting it for all to see?

It's one thing to speculate or wonder what happened to him. It's another entirely to continually point to another poster and call attention to them.

At least that's my opinion. Why would any of us...knowing what those psychotic morons up north are capable of, wish to bring that down on Lee again?

I'm not saying RP or anyone else here is Coach...but unless Coach has asked some of his inner circle to do this to poke 'em in-the-eye, I'm suggesting we cool it on calling out posters on here as being Coach.

Am I overreacting, or is discretion the better part of valor?

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

It's actually 14 1/2 right now

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yeah, I wouldn't touch 14 1/2. 10 1/2, Im all in. I can easily see a 17-3 game at the half.

I actually wish USA was a little better. I would like some type of challenge before we play South Carolina. I still think we beat SC by double digits, but I would like our team to be tested a little the first week, and we won't be. This may be Jones' worst team over the last three years.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

Maybe...just maybe if some of y'all think you've figured out who C34's alter-ego is, you should consider not blasting it for all to see?

It's one thing to speculate or wonder what happened to him. It's another entirely to continually point to another poster and call attention to them.

At least that's my opinion. Why would any of us...knowing what those psychotic morons up north are capable of, wish to bring that down on Lee again?

I'm not saying RP or anyone else here is Coach...but unless Coach has asked some of his inner circle to do this to poke 'em in-the-eye, I'm suggesting we cool it on calling out posters on here as being Coach.

Am I overreacting, or is discretion the better part of valor?

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LOL is this serious??