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You can be sick of it, but those of us who have been around a long time know it is often true. Also, in any battle it is foolish to ignore the enemy and in recruiting they are our primary enemy because we both recruit Mississippi hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
you should change your name to 1correctdawgQuote:
Originally Posted by 1bigdawg
Whether it's often true or not, my point remains. Without any proof, constant cheating speculation on literally EVERY positive story for OM without proof is getting old.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigdawg
Did they cheat with Oher?Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
Pat Pat?
Vincent Sanders?
Brunneti?
CJ Johnson?
Kam Woods?
Tobias Singleton Manning?
Brassell?
Every South Panola kid in history?
Kimchee?
Tunsil?
Golson?
I'll give you a hint... it's the same answer for all of them.
Perception is reality. Ole Miss cheats their ass off and Hugh Freezus is a dirty lying snake in the grass. Was that perception or reality?Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
u want proof.. They released the kid from his LOI in less 48 hours.. If they really wanted him and did nothing wrong they would have probably let it play out a little longer.. I didn't see Utah rushing to let him out of it..Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
Thank God this site wasn't here during the CJ saga years back.. with your logic you would have defended that as well. Cause apparently no wrong doing happened there either..
To be honest I wish OM would have fought this longer. Im actually shocked they didn't. Being they think they are bullet proof.
Because Utah was ready to take it to the next level and get the Pac 12 commission involved. And you know they would have LOVED to try and bring the hammer down hard on any SEC program they could.. Even if it would have been a school as irrelevant as OM is..
While I see your point, I don't think that releasing him early proves a damn thing. Why the hell would anybody want a kid on their team who clearly has issues with simple tasks like only sending in one letter, appears to have last liked Utah more than OM, isn't a game changer, and probably won't qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
If he was a 5 star that wasn't a grade risk, I would tend to agree with you if they let go that fast.
And the CJ drama was total bullshit - they ****ed us over and I still haven't mentally recovered from the pain. But be honest, that was in NO WAY like this situation at OM right now with Law.
Because someone looked at a highlight video and put four or five stars in front of their name?Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
to assume he sent both letters is a huge stretch. he didn't. he sent one and has only been proven to have signed one. everything else is wild speculation but most of the facts point to a huge mistake that was perpetrated by mom in coordination with OM.
not sure why that's hard to see...
Why are you ok ripping the kid based on speculative bullshit, but not ok with ripping OM on logical conclusions drawn from the facts?
outstanding postQuote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
You are saying they didn't want the kid bc he must be stupid if he sent in two LOI? They signed J. Powe!!
I'm basing my opinion off of things that have been written by FoxSports, 24/7, and Orlando Sentinel - all which say (granted, through his mother) that there were 2 legitimate letters sent. This has not been refuted by anyone close to the situation, including the player, which leads me to believe that it is the truth.
My take? This kid listened to momma in the morning and then called daddy and changed his mind before his filmed announcement.
Regardless, I'm off this thread for good. I'll agree to disagree with this one, we aren't getting anywhere constructive.
HilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Brahmabull
So you seriously believe a kid would send in 3 separate letters of intent, one of which involved a ceremony and filmed him signing it and 2 others to OM and an OM farm school? Two of which we've confirmed that only momma wanted? If he'd known about those 2, why would he select Utah on live television? I sure hope you do not have an occupation that requires problem solving, cause and effect and/or investigations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
And yes you are a bear fan. Too bad I can't ban you, but your true blue is shining through on this one.
Your going to base your opinion on what the mother said.
So do you think she has NEVER met the coaching staff from Utah. Her words.
She is "living" with her son and she has never met one coach.??
The kid takes his OV to Utah in October.
The kid has said he wants to go to Utah.
Usually when a kid sign his LOI the family is there. Was she not at the school that morning.?? Did she not go "hey son why are you wearing a Utah hat?" My guess is she was at HER home IN TAMPA
The more you try and defend this the dumber you look...
Personally Dude, I don't give a shit if you're a bear or not. All I'm saying is, if I want to read continuous post defending the bears Ill go to the spirit, or bafoom boards. **** them and their underhanded shit..You should feel the same way!!!
Any rumor of TSUN indiscretions brings out a swarm of Freezus crusaders elsewhere on the interwebs.
Positive story? Ha, whatever you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
I wish we were better at cheating. WTF this is the golden age of cheating and instead of going with the flow we are complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
This isn't golf, it's the SEC. Everybody but Vandy cheats and Vandy gets to give away $120k diplomas.
I would hope the NCAA looks into this and tells the recruit - Look , if you want to be cleared, tell us what went down. otherwise you lose a year while we investigate! He would talk! NCAA needs to get off their ass!!!
It's a thousand wonders this didn't happen with Chris jones. Daddy wanted him at om badly. Really badly.
Is there a reason y'all let this Bear troll stay on the board this long?
Been wondering this myself. Hell I've been hinting at it for two days now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life
No way he is a Bulldog.
Someone from Ole Miss promise his mother something in return of him going to ole miss. It's that plain and simple. As far as the letter goes, they are all legitimate. No one is saying the letters are not legit what they are saying is the mother sign one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
By the way when you get banned I want your Vcash.
Spewing coffee reading this post. A+, Sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
It's beyond ironic...Quote:
Originally Posted by HailState39110
It's very fishy that they are the only school where this happens and it has happened twice in 4 years... $$
Don't forget Godcheaux or whatever his name is that signed with LSU this year.
The blame Momma on this one, not wanting to sign the LOI with Ole Miss. L$UQuote:
Originally Posted by CJDAWG85
http://www.redcuprebellion.com/2014/...n-lsu-ole-miss
So I see MadkinMeCrazy got banned. You would think that 100 people that were so sure of their opinion could handle one dude that didn't agree with them. I guess not.
Look, I like the fact that there's no bears on this board. But all he did was disagree with the ever-increasing echo chamber around here. He wasn't a troll.
Hell Yes- I'll bet the bears would shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Belegal
I didnt ban him- but I'll explain it to you the same way I did him why the mod did- to which we all agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by LiterallyPolice
The thing is- this board is becoming more and more popular. We are growing quickly with posters and site hits. Why? Because we dont let Rebels come in here and control the message, spin everything that happens, and get threads about them locked. Do things sometime go a little overboard? Absolutely. But it's better to error on that side of things as opposed to letting the Rebel spin machine work. They dont allow anything positive about State on their boards and they jump on State guys like the Indians did Custer anytime something positive is mentioned about State. Elitedawgs is going to be the same way from our side
I agree. Seems a little over the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiterallyPolice
Control the message. Eliminate the dissent. Post anything you want - as long as the mods agree with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandwolf
Or to put it another way- don't break your neck defending OM on this board. Especially when it turns out they were in the wrong on thisQuote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
I am definitely good with yall having a zero tolerance policy for both bears and their apologists......and in this thread he definitely came across as defending them. But I think that his intent was to bring attention to the idea that our fanbase should stop putting all of our energy into baseless accusations about OM cheating in recruiting and instead, direct our focus towards what WE need to do to handle it.......because the NCAA has made it abundantly clear that they arent going to do jack shit unless they absolutely have to. So, while I enjoy the shit out of the threads that are based on rumors about how the bears cheated and how people are hearing that the NCAA has told them to pump the brakes (and I definitely am not advocating for those threads to go away entirely), the bottom line is that those threads are not productive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I guess my point (and based on some of his other posts, I think his point is similar) is that when a Tee Shepard or a CJ Johnson situation comes up, I am of the opinion that our reaction should be to look at Mullen and the athletic department and say, "How in the **** did yall allow this to happen? We invest too much money in yall for us to have to put up with this kind of bullshit!" instead of accusing OM of cheating and talking about how the NCAA is going to drop the hammer on them.....because the NCAA isn't going to do shit, and the only way that it is ever going to stop is if the people that are in charge on our end figure out a way to end it......and the best way that I know of to push them to do that is to let them know that we expect them to put a stop to it and that we aren't going to accept the idea that OM cheated as an excuse.
That's complete bullshit and you know it. Saying your peace on OM is one thing. But continuing ad nauseum raises flags and the poster definitely did that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
I see your points an agree on some of them. But how can you hold our staff accountable for something they have no control over? At the end of the day, whether you believe they cheated or not, it is ultimately the kid and/or families decision. The staff does screw up at times, hold them accountable for those problems. But the CJ or Tee issue was not on our staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandwolf
Yep. If you don't like it go create your own Bear loving Board. I have disagreed with the Mods before, but I am A DOG. no banning for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
# Hailstate.
17 Tee and The Rebels. He had 1 fricking interception all year at Holmes. And averaged about 4-5 tackles a Game. What's all hoopla about. he must be dumb as a box of hammers, good bye to a lying M17er