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His defense was for the most part pretty good with limited defensive talent coming in with Leach
He inherited two NFL CBs, an NFL LB, and two NFL DL.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
In the portal era, how many of our guys actually played for him? I am all on board for this.
Hey, we hired a DC with head coaching experience, that's what we were shooting for!****
Good one!
We better hire some damn good recruiters. If you can do that, this might work. But damn those recruiters are going to have to be great. It is going to take elite recruiters and a lot of money to convince a DL to come here and play in a 3-3-5
I admit I?m clueless. So I?m guessing a or several big boosters reside In Madison county? And if so were they responsible for blowing up the air raid when Arnett was hired as HC or did Arnett do that by himself? Asking for a friend?..Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
It was fun at times boys but I think im done. Ever since cohen got AD and Leach died this school just went off the rails, jumped 3 ditches and landed in a nuclear plant. Yall give em hell
Is this a situation where his agent reached out to us to let us to know he was interested or did we reach out to him? If we were the ones to make contact, we must have missed on several other targets.It seems like a settle hire if it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Well boys and girls this is setting up as ZA 2.0 interim coach come 7 games in
Really? Really??!!!!!???
Now i know how aTm fans felt when they heard Mark Stoops.
Groundhog Day ll. Playing at a theater near you soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandjunky
SVS, is this for sure happening, and who?s behind it?
Arnett's defenses ranked in the Top 5 of the SEC while he was DC from 20-22.. Hutzler's defenses ranked 16th and 15th (thanks Arkansas) in his two years, including the 3rd worst in P4 in 2024 with an overall ranking of 126 out of 134 teams, and in 2025 the 11th worst in P4 and 104 out of 136 teams. Historically the worst defenses in MSU history.
Arnett was 52nd in 2020, 29th in 2021, and 35th in 2022. Give us that type of production this year, and we are 9-3 going to a Florida bowl.
Matt Brock is coming back as well.
Someone pointed out that we had several NFL players on those teams in this thread. That makes a whole hell of a difference in outcomes!Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
This. Also, Lebby is not going to hire a guy he cannot work with. I am sure they ironed out details and how things will work. Selmon fired the guy, and he gave it a pass. You have to get through the surface to see what he can do here.Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
This would be a bold move, Cotton!
In fairness to Zach, his defenses were actually as good or better than what Armstrong has put on the field. But could be really awkward and we need a great transfer portal haul. Not sure if this gets it done.
Better than Hutz but absolutely underwhelming.
Yea not sure why all the disappointment other than people getting excited about some huge names we were supposedly in on. Dude was relatively highly thought as an up and coming dc when we hired him under leach and he did a really solid job in that role. He wasn't ready to be a head coach and he knew that. He was really solid at what we originally hired him to do which was put a fast aggressive defense on the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
We were gonna have to go get some dudes regardless of who the coordinator was going to be.
I'm coming with you. We really are little brother UQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
There's a lot of time between now and next season. Arnett is known to change his mind and be a quitter.
He was good as a DC. He is not a head coach and we did not hire him for that role today. We now have money to spend in the portal and he will have plenty of talent to work with. He will do fine. You love Mike Leach and Leach thought a lot of him as a DC. Not sure why that opinion would have changed. He?s done nothing but field good defenses in that role.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I do not hate it but it is so awkward. He better hire some good recruiters.
Arnett working for the guy that replaced him. Arnett must love Starkville
How much they gonna pay him? We were told on this board they had 2 to 2.5 for DC.
One other positive about ZA, he has shown that he can run a good defensive unit without supervision from the HC and off the field staff. That can free Lebby a little more to not have to worry over the defense as much.
I still think we might should have gone a different route but it's Lebby's job on the line.
I thought Arnette did a great job as DC. Certainly not an Arnett fan due to character flaws, but his defense was good.
Bo Bounds calls Arnett a massive upgrade, which means this is a terrible decision. If Bo thinks it?s a good move, that should be a red flag. Particularly since he?s a mouthpiece for the Madison bunch.
I mean comparatively and statistically speaking to who we had, Bo ain't exactly wrong. I get your frustration but I think it's tied to his HC job and completely tearing down the Air Raid offense. Separate that from his DC role which he was good. I'm not 100% sold on the move because it's been such a short time since he was HC and we need some dawg recruiters to come in to help.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Well in his defense, we could have hired Juice the dog away from LK and it would have been a massive upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I think we?ll be fine if we can keep Arnett fully clothed.
Well he probalbly got drunk and took a ride thru there but hell everybody deserves to get drunk every now and then. LK has a character flaw but it's not considered comical just disloyal.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
The funny thing about this is I have Ole Miss people texting me that this was a heck of a hireQuote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
Well. The only thing I have an option in considering here is the results. What were his results everywhere he has been a DC at? That includes MSU. https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/rank...m_individual=TQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
There are some great numbers in there. Top 5 in conference play in fact.
The one thing I would like to see is if Arnett was here this season, would it have made a difference. In his last season as DC, 23.1 PPG across 13 games, finishing 20th nationally. In SEC play, 29.17 Somebody double check that
Matt Brock is coming back!
It's all good. OM gonna send us their lemon Pledge and a microfiber cloth. So we can put the shine on our own ...... well, you know.
It's an underwhelming hire if you look at the names that was getting thrown around. But I will say this.. if you look past the whole HC disaster and try and look past that entire situation, it's a big upgrade from Hutz. It's hard not to have a cloudy vision with how everything went down and now Arnett being brought right back into the fire. But Arnett is not a bad DC and I think we all would be a little happier if everything didn't happen the way it happened. His defenses are usually pretty good and we know that.
Personally, I would have loved if we hired Armstrong. Oh and now we have someone with HC experience that can help Lebby with in game decisions.************
Did we strike out on all our listed choices because of Lebby’s job security? Or was arnett a top choice of boosters?