They cannot go from one fired SEC coach to another. The time to grab Lemonis would have been last year or either wait out our situation this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
They will need a sitting HC or an SEC assistant.
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They cannot go from one fired SEC coach to another. The time to grab Lemonis would have been last year or either wait out our situation this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
They will need a sitting HC or an SEC assistant.
The market is the market though. I don't think they're going to pay someone 3 million or whatever to just do it. Not in baseball anyway. And I'm not saying that we would pay that either for someone but I'm just saying that I don't think they're going to go way over market to get O'Connor. Rob Vaughn is sitting right there at Alabama and to me that seems like a better fit. Plus it would give them an edge on Justin Lebron if he enters the portal. And I'm not convinced that O'Connor would choose them over us anyway. Right now we're a much better situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
That's why I think that hit piece was put out. They're trying to fire him for cause. Not following a doctor's Tommy John protocol and then that pitcher getting hurt after he was overworked is probably grounds for that alone without the other mountain of stuff in that article. And that article was essentially written by the people of South Carolina's version of Genespage. It wasn't by accident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I could see that. Or Elander. Meade would be better though.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
They are in the same situation that Georgia has with much less commitment. They're right in between two MLB teams in the Cardinals and Royals and that's what they are competing against in state for baseball. They'll never ever compete against that. They are in a good recruiting area and there is no reason why they can't at least be competitive in the SEC and at least go to regionals. I think they need the right coach and Kerrick Johnson isn't the right guy. Fitzgerald would be great there because he can recruit and he knows the league and the area and the JUCO's. But it's a massive rebuild that is going to take years and honestly whoever their coach is there needs to get someone like Max Scherzer involved to start building some facilities and to get some things going there.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Yes I was kidding. I don?t think Lemo deserves the SC job.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I hope he does get the USC job.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
(1) takes MSU off the hook for buyout money
(2) he can hire Cheese, Parker, Goat, and Fox
(3) makes the MSU coach change free of charge
(4) destroys USC baseball for 4 to 6 years
Oh I'm all for them hiring him as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Talked to a few people last night and Steve basically confirmed the exact thing I was hearing, O'Conner is expected to stay at UVA.
So in the words of Sean Carter, On To The Next One.
My gut has been telling me that it will probably be Fitzgerald ever since I heard his name and looked at his Wikipedia page. However, my gut wasn’t too friendly to me this morning so who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I still think it is going to be Erik Bakich. I also think Wasikowski smoke will heat up as the week moves on as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Fitzgerald is still politicking like hell to get the job. He's got people reaching out every day.
If Fitz takes out Van Horn and Vitello that's a good resume bullet point.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
"Went threw Fayetteville and Knoxville, successfully navigated my club to Omaha."
My money remains on Bakich
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Originally Posted by ScottH
I?m right there with you. I?ve been on this train since day one. Ever since I watched that Clemson/Florida super last year and saw the fire he?s got I said that day I want him in Starkville. He?s a perfect fit.
Here's the thing with Bakich. He's Cannizarro. He's what we lost. And this is the chance to get that back. Albeit without the off the field issues and we probably won't have spiked shoulder pads this time around. But that swagger, fire, and bravado would be back. Also, the recruiting would be back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
That?s perfectly fine by me haha. As long as we get that swagger, fire, and bravado back I?m cool with it. I also agree this is our chance to get back what we had in Cann without off field issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
Here is Mizzou's problem. They had a chance to hire Vitello in 2016 when Jamison retired and they didn't do it. Now would Vitello still be there? Absolutely not. The guy would probably be at Texas or even LSU right now because Mizzou refuses to make baseball any type of priority. So what happened? Well they hired Steve Beiser who, although he wasn't terrible, never made it to the NCAAT. He was 188-155 in his tenure at Mizzou. Tennessee hires Vitello a year later and all he has done is go 329-128 in his tenure with 3 CWS appearances and a national championship. And btw, he wanted that Mizzou job.
I thought the same exact thing during that SR last year. They gave Florida all they could handle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
Had me wishing we had that guy in the dugout instead of what we stuck with for another year.
I'm feeling like Bakich until someone credible says otherwise.
There is just some intrigue around Bakich. And look, like him or not, Robertson has the best athletic dept sources and has been dodging the Bakich candidacy as much as possible. If he was not a candidate he would either come out and say he is not a candidate or have some smart ass response saying that Vitello is a candidate too technically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
It was also very interesting that SuperTalk added him to their hot board last week. They did not just get that out of thin air
I?d be just as happy with Bakich as I would?ve BOC.
Two different coaches but Bakich seems like a fit.
I will say it again. If it is Bakich, it's the biggest stealth coaching hire that has ever been. Outside of Super Talk putting him on the hot board, there hasn't been a peep about him in the baseball media. He wasn't on Kendall Rogers's hot board. Baseball America came out with a 40 coaches to watch article discussing coaches who could be on the move, and he wasn't mentioned. The top 4 on BA's list were Brian O'Connor, Tom Walter, Dan Fitzgerald, and Chris Pollard.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I would put very little sock in what Rosey knows at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Exactly. SR has to get paid*Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
He's telling people what he's been told, and not telling people what he's being told not to tell. I'm not saying his reporting is 100% accurate, but his sourcing in the Bryan Building is a hell of a lot better than other writers on the beat. So if I have to guess, and it's only a half guess because it lines up with some stuff I have heard, we're keeping a candidate or two on the down low. Kendall Rodgers screwed us with the O'Conner stuff tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Haha. Rosie always has a smart remark when he is right. I called him out on that. Needless to say, he doesn?t like me very well. Haha
I always laugh a little at his "Now That It's Over" pieces. Stuff will have happened that he knew nothing about and he'll act like he knew that is exactly how it was going to go down. My favorite was the Lockhart stuff: "Well I talked to my sources down at Winona and they told me he never sent his papers to Ole Miss. So I knew hours before everyone that it wasn't settled." In reality he started checking into it the minute Jeff Lebby posted that tweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
My favorite Rosie moment :Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
At that time, I was listening to the Boneyard cause I did not know about T&L or any other podcast.
He was talking about recruit that was verbally committed to Ole Miss. Rosie didn’t like the recruit because “ He was a tweener yada yada. That recruit eventually committed to State and magically Rosie loved him. That’s when I knew that I was done with Rosebowl. Haha
He is the consumate homer beat writer and plays the part PERFECTLY.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Just a few gems over the years:
"Joe Moorhead is going to exceed Dan Mullen at Mississippi State. He really has the respect of the locker room already."
"You know I was always worried about Moorhead. He just never seemed to have the respect of the older players."
"Zach Arnett is who Mike Leach wanted and to me that tells me all I need to know about him."
"I always had my doubts about Zach Arnett and the hiring process. I just had a feeling it wasn't going to work out."
He is a homer that hates to get called out on his BS. Rosey gotta get paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
The Steve hate is over the top.
Is he perfect? No. Does he have an ego? Yes. Does he ramble too much? Yea.
But he is the only person on the beat that actually makes the effort to go cover games. The guy works harder than anybody on the beat and loves State. I can respect that.
yeah true.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I have noticed in this coach search the On3 guys just make jabs at Steve saying they cover the search differently and will only update when they have information....but Robbie is just listing what the D1 guys say.
At least Steve is putting some information out there, and most likely is helping the admin with smoke screens. That sort of makes it easier to read between the lines on his post.
I'm not saying I don't respect the hell out of Steve. Because I do. I don't think he's missed a baseball game in 5 years and I doubt he's missed a football games in decades. It is just funny that his opinions sometimes change as often as the wind blows. He has accumulated great sources within the athletic dept and that comes with a lot of perks, but he also is going to get hate for that because he is seen as the University mouthpiece at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Robbie's sources are the D1 guys and what they put out there. He doesn't have many sources in the baseball world and the On3 network doesn't cover it so he doesn't have a national guy to fall back on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Robertson is taking what is given to him and then he checks up on that so that should be applauded. Robbie can't do that because he doesn't have the rolodex of contacts that Steve has attracted over the years and Robbie does nothing to cultivate any type of relationship with other beat writers. Steve has the ability to play nice when he has to. Same as Hadad, although having the show with Cross and Borkey has helped him out in that regard.
I don't think the administration is giving Robbie anything either.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I get it, but Robbie IMO, should not give the smart A jabs about being different, when in reality he just does not have information.
Agree on Hadad. It seems to have been a benefit for him for sure.
Administration is going to give things to people that don't crap on them. That's how access works unless you're a national guy. Robbie isn't and so he doesn't have much on this because On3 doesn't have a national college baseball guy. There's also another facet of this that I don't think any of the beat writers truly know who's actually running the show on this search. This isn't the 2017 or 2019 search. The sourcing isn't going to be the same because Cohen isn't leaking names to Steve every other day to gauge interestQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Apparently, Kendall was on supertalk and saying it’s either Waz or Fitzgerald
Exactly. This over-the-top Rosebowl hate is silly. 80% is just because of how he looks, shocking... I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
ETA... I would be beyond shocked if it was Bakich. Waz is probably our ceiling, so probably Fitz or Walter
Thats probably pretty solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Waz, Fitz are top tier coaches and Walter is way better than what we had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
This may be true, and if so it is well-deserved. So why doesn't he take more pride in his appearance? I literally cringe anytime I read his name or see his pic as some kind of representation of MSU. Ok, I'm an old fart and was taught very early on how important first impressions are. "You only get one opportunity to make a first impression."Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
It's horribleQuote:
Originally Posted by schddog72
Needs to take a bath and wash that nasty head. I don?t care for him but it?s not because how he looks. He is a hypocrite that can?t take the heat but can dish it when it?s convenient for him. A lot of times, he makes it about himself. I can see why Ole Miss fans doesn?t like him. If an Ole Miss beat writer turns us in and puts us on probation, I wouldn?t like him either.Quote:
Originally Posted by schddog72