My bet is Butch.
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My bet is Butch.
He is. Winning at Kansas isn't easy. He has done it with mostly JUCO players and guys out of the portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Only if Grisham is in the package deal ***Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Butch has a good resume, but he has missed the postseason 2 of the previous 4 seasons. He meets my main qualification of having experience with high pressure baseball programs, but his inconsistency in the portal era is a bit concerning.
Well you will not have to worry because it will not be Butch. We are not going to be willing to up his salary and we are not paying that buyout.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogcountry1
You're going to lose your betQuote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
If O'Connor really is the guy, we can probably announce him before the Regionals even start, getting a head start on the recruiting/portal process.
It will not be Brian O’Conner. Would be a good to great hire but it will not be him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
No way it's Butch unless they don't want to search for a coach.
Kind of hope we go after someone younger than Butch or O'Conner. I'd like to see us appraoch this as the hire that could stay here for the next 10-15 years.
They would only be in their mid 60's if they stay 10+ years. It's not like they are already 67Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogcountry1
Tyler Gillum is the guy WE want!!!
We're not paying the money it would cost to 1. get them to leave where they are and 2. pay the buyouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Not saying we would just referencing the OP's age comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I don't have a problem with O'Connor at all. He's got to be near the top of the interest is real. I talked to my VA peeps and they said hes definitely not happy with the AD there but they stopped short of saying he wanted out. Said it's definitely something to watch.
He was unhappy in 2019 and turned us down so I doubt much has changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
So we are about 24 hrs removed from the announcement and I will try to handicap some of the names I have heard and some I have heard tossed out.
Erik Bakich-35/1. He is unhappy at Clemson and has made that known but he is making north of 1.2 and his contract had 5 years left on it. I imagine the buyout would be too steep for us to pay plus he would probably command a 1.3-1.4 salary.
Brian O’Conner-45/1. Makes 1.4 and his contract runs through 2031. You run into the same problems you do with Bakich. Big buyout and would command a salary that is well over what we are seemingly willing to pay.
Chris Pollard-12/1. If I had to handicap it at this point he would probably be the sitting HC favorite this early. Obviously do not know what his contract is due to Duke being private but I cannot imagine he is making north of 750K.
Mark Wasikowski-18/1. If we strike out with Pollard, my guess is this is where we would turn. Making around 700K so contract nor buyout would be an issue.
Skylar Meade-30/1. He is behind the previous two but his stuff is the same as theirs. Contract nor buyout would be an issue.
Josh Elander or Will Coggin-30/1. If we miss on the two P4 HCs they have just as good of a chance at it as the G5 HCs.
Butch Thompson-60/1. He is not coming. He is happy at Auburn, making about 1.3 with a contract that would at least run through 29. Cohen would also do whatever it takes to keep him.
Nick Mingione-70/1. His buyout is the issue over salary. His buyout is strong and Kentucky would probably force us to overpay if we went that Mingione route.
UPDATE: with Brian O'Conner now only rumored to have a 500K buyout, I would lower his odds to 20/1. Still not the favorite but definitely more in play.
A lot changed, John Cohen is gone. But it won’t be O’Conner.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
NIL has changed since then. I have heard that is a big issue at Virginia. He knows that if he can't get that they're dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I'm Just wondering why people aren't giving Meade a serious look. A young guy with a lot of fire and knows how to use the portal in modern day college ball. 62% WP at Troy and that is with them going on the road to play powerhouses in the non-Conference. I think he would be a good grab with a smaller buyout
Oh, it's worse now. He's asked for funds and they won't do it. They chose lacrosse over additional baseball funding. He supposedly has some out for his contract too but they weren't sure on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I'm skeptical but I'm keeping one eye on it too lol
There is a lot of chatter that he's ready to move on from Virginia now. He almost took the Texas A&M job last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
He's be 64 in ten years. get him
Virginia will probably be in the Big 10 (baseball graveyard) in a few years. Might as well look for greener pastures and a fanbase that cares.
Bc hiring a mid major head coach is riskier than hiring a Power 4 assistant. See Justin Haire at Ohio State.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPDawgs
He was going to take the Ole Miss job for sure. He would take our job if offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Some of you are thinking if he will take it then it is a done deal. Is he going to take a pay cut? Because we are not paying him 1.4 million. And what about his buyout and his staff buyouts? Who is going to foot that almost 7 million dollar check? Like all in this would be a 12-14 million dollar commitment JUST FOR STAFFING. And these are the same people that you are going to then turn around and ask them to give you an addition 3-5 million for baseball NIL too?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I would not get your hopes up for O?Conner. Because even if he were to resign to try and get around the buyout I feel certain his contract has language in it guarding UVA from exactly that.
Look if you can get him for 1.0-1.2 and can negotiate a buyout somewhere in the 3-5 mil range then maybe it is doable. But I would not get your hopes up for O?Conner.
And it has changed us too. The people who we used to be able to count on to foot this type of stuff are being hit up for 6 and 7 figure NIL donations. They may not want to fork over a 6 or 7 figure check now only to be hit up for a couple of more for NIL in 60 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
C'mon maneeeeeeee. We a blue blood powerhouse with Top 5 NIL. We can pay anybody we want as much as we want. We got all the moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
O'Connor's buyout is only $500,000 per Kendall Rogers.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We'll be paying our new coach somewhere between 850K-1.2 mil. Not broke by any stretch but we sure aren't shelling out Vitello money for a non revenue sportQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Now that changes everything. I looked at his contract this morning and just assumed they had a brain cell and it was somewhere in the 5-7 mil range. If his buyout, with 6 years remaining, is only 500K then go get him. Because if you can what I would guess is around 6-8 million on buyouts then you can afford to pay a little more to the HC.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Do you take me as a poster that just randomly throws shit out there? I'm not saying he's our guy, but I'm telling you he would take the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Oh not at all. I think he'd probably take the job. But it's making the money work that will be the issue. The buyout only being 500K changes everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We might not get O'Conner but it won't be because of money. That buyout is nothing
Yea I can't believe his buyout, with 6 years remaining, is only 500K. It's like UVA wants him to leave. And obviously if they are pushing him out the door we will happily take him.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
If I wake up to news that we pulled the O'Conner Heist ...
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Me telling my pals about the O'Conner Heist ...
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Me telling my wife about the O'Conner Heist ...
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This is from Kendall's hot board:Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Kendall mentioned before he put out his hot board that after talking with some people, Mississippi State may have the perfect timing on this coaching search. Then he alludes to "timing is everything" when talking about O'Connor. Think about it this way. The buyout is low. UVA is not likely to make the postseason this year, so if you hire him, you can get him on the job right after the season ends. That helps with recruiting your own players back. That helps with keeping the recruiting class from bolting to the pros. That helps get a jump start on our own portal recruiting.Quote:
Brian O’Connor, Virginia
As they say in coaching searches, timing is everything. O’Connor got into deep discussions with Texas A&M last summer before ultimately decided to stay put at Virginia, partly, because of family considerations. Now, a year later, the landscape of college athletics has drastically changed, and is about to change even more with the upcoming House Settlement. Is this the job O’Connor finally pulls the trigger on for his next move? O’Connor receives good — but not great — support at Virginia, and Mississippi State cares a great deal about baseball on the financial/NIL front. O’Connor did sign a new deal that takes him through the 2031 campaign last summer, but his buyout is only $500,000, and should be considered a very legitimate option.
Skip Johnson is the guy some want to try to link us to because of Selmon's connections at Oklahoma, but Skip has a $2.5 plus million buyout.
If the buyout is only 500K and O’Conner has legit interest then this will be a no brainer of a hire.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
O'Connor? Come on guys, don't pickle tickle my ass now.