When Did The Football Downfall Start

I agree on Keenum, he'd just assume slap dicks at the Grant Museum. His political connections do help some, but not enough to be a difference maker. The problem is who the college board would appoint if he left. Those 17ers will screw us over as fast as they can. Keenum killed Sark to State and should be fired for that alone. He hired Cohen as AD, that's another strike. He wouldn't let Cohen fire Moorhead until there was a fight and scandal. He needs to shut his mouth and take a seat in regards to athletics because he sucks at it!

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I agree on Keenum, he'd just assume slap dicks at the Grant Museum. His political connections do help some, but not enough to be a difference maker. The problem is who the college board would appoint if he left. Those 17ers will screw us over as fast as they can. Keenum killed Sark to State and should be fired for that alone. He hired Cohen as AD, that's another strike. He wouldn't let Cohen fire Moorhead until there was a fight and scandal. He needs to shut his mouth and take a seat in regards to athletics because he sucks at it!

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Yes, he gets way too involved in things that he has no wisdom in

The downfall started when the stadium was built on dead Indians.

Perhaps we are on our way up, but up ain't where it used to be.

I'd say it was hiring Leach. It told me we aren't serious about having a competitive football program. We're happy to be the doormat and an SEC welfare recipient. There's a reason no other SEC team had seriously considered Leach for the 20 years before we hired him.

That said, the portal and NIL were the final nails in the coffin. We had a chance when we could be a development program with talented, blue collar players. But the portal allows players to leave with zero compensation or the ability to replace them. NIL means on the off chance we do have a good player, someone with deeper pockets is going to buy him from us. Look no further than MVB last year. Right when it seemed like we'd found a talent to develop around at QB, he's gone. Until there's some regulation of the portal and NIL, we can't hope to compete. College football is dead. I can't stand whatever this is now.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

I'd say it was hiring Leach. It told me we aren't serious about having a competitive football program. We're happy to be the doormat and an SEC welfare recipient. There's a reason no other SEC team had seriously considered Leach for the 20 years before we hired him.

That said, the portal and NIL were the final nails in the coffin. We had a chance when we could be a development program with talented, blue collar players. But the portal allows players to leave with zero compensation or the ability to replace them. NIL means on the off chance we do have a good player, someone with deeper pockets is going to buy him from us. Look no further than MVB last year. Right when it seemed like we'd found a talent to develop around at QB, he's gone. Until there's some regulation of the portal and NIL, we can't hope to compete. College football is dead. I can't stand whatever this is now.

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Yeah- nothing says we're "not serious" like hiring a guy two years removed from an 11 win season at a then P5 school and who should be in the college football HOF.**

I guarantee you that if we hired a guy with Leach's resume' and he had 50/50 run splits you would have been fired up.

Thanks for providing an example of the asinine shit that our fans come up with which is EXACTLY what we are talking about that is wrong with our fans.

this ^^^^^^^^^^. Lets help Lebby get what he needs and move on. bitches will bitch no matter what

The downfall actually began with the internet and message boards. Never did I imagine that we had as many experts and malcontents until message boards. Bitching and moaning about everything.....even when we win.

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Originally Posted by AROB44

The downfall actually began with the internet and message boards. Never did I imagine that we had as many experts and malcontents until message boards. Bitching and moaning about everything.....even when we win.

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I blame the development of agriculture and domestication! Our bitch ass ancestor 10,000 years ago set all this shit in motion!****