Selmon needs to act or get fired

Firing now is dumb. We don't have the resources to fire now because we've still got to coach our team in two in state games, work the portal, and someone secure a recruiting class.

If you fire Arnett, you also fire at minimum Brock and most on here would probably want 2-3 more.

So do y'all really want to go into two in state games without 4-5 on field coaches? Our university cannot support a football program for two weeks during the season that way.

This will likely come the day after the Egg Bowl. And that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Firing now is dumb. We don't have the resources to fire now because we've still got to coach our team in two in state games, work the portal, and someone secure a recruiting class.

If you fire Arnett, you also fire at minimum Brock and most on here would probably want 2-3 more.

So do y'all really want to go into two in state games without 4-5 on field coaches? Our university cannot support a football program for two weeks during the season that way.

This will likely come the day after the Egg Bowl. And that makes sense.

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Yet AGAIN, it is NOT dumb to fire him now because Arnett's presence on the sideline decreases our odds of winning these last two games. So yes, I want to do what is best for our program and not have him on the sidelines anymore.

As I said on the other thread, I suspect anyone balking at firing Arnett today is doing so because they don't really want him fired at all. There's no reason to wait, so there must be something else going on.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Yet AGAIN, it is NOT dumb to fire him now because Arnett's presence on the sideline decreases our odds of winning these last two games. So yes, I want to do what is best for our program and not have him on the sidelines anymore.

As I said on the other thread, I suspect anyone balking at firing Arnett today is doing so because they don't really want him fired at all. There's no reason to wait, so there must be something else going on.

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I disagree completely. And my mind won't change if we win the last two. He needs to go.

But Texas A&M can afford to pay Jimbo $76 million and put a product on the field even with his firing. We can't. That's a reality. And we cant fire Arnett, name Hughes the interim head coach, and allow Barbay and Brock to continue.

Do you have a plan that would work? Just fire Arnett, keep everyone else and roll on like nothing happened? We simply can't afford to do that. We can in 14 days. But not today.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Do you have a plan that would work? Just fire Arnett, keep everyone else and roll on like nothing happened? We simply can't afford to do that. We can in 14 days. But not today.

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Sure we can. If any assistant coaches want to walk out with Arnett, they're welcome to, but I bet none of them would.

Two prominent programs with our "poor little us" syndrome fired their head coaches today, effective immediately. The only reason to oppose us doing the same is secretly hoping Arnett saves his job.

The ONLY Bulldog fan I know that would have the correct info just said Arnett is gone. He?s connected enough, and a big enough supporter, to say so.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I disagree completely. And my mind won't change if we win the last two. He needs to go.

But Texas A&M can afford to pay Jimbo $76 million and put a product on the field even with his firing. We can't. That's a reality. And we cant fire Arnett, name Hughes the interim head coach, and allow Barbay and Brock to continue.

Do you have a plan that would work? Just fire Arnett, keep everyone else and roll on like nothing happened? We simply can't afford to do that. We can in 14 days. But not today.

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HC: Knox
OC: Bumphis/Mele
DC: McBath/Hughes

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Originally Posted by SailingDawg

The ONLY Bulldog fan I know that would have the correct info just said Arnett is gone. He?s connected enough, and a big enough supporter, to say so.

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If he's not gone today, then how can we trust that he's really gone in 12 days? It's not official until it is.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If he's not gone today, then how can we trust that he's really gone in 12 days? It's not official until it is.

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He's gone. Jesus people the guy is done. How fast we fire the man doesn't matter. It's all about hiring someone fast because of recruiting and the portal coming open. We can't hire a damn soul today or even next week.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I disagree completely. And my mind won't change if we win the last two. He needs to go.

But Texas A&M can afford to pay Jimbo $76 million and put a product on the field even with his firing. We can't. That's a reality. And we cant fire Arnett, name Hughes the interim head coach, and allow Barbay and Brock to continue.

Do you have a plan that would work? Just fire Arnett, keep everyone else and roll on like nothing happened? We simply can't afford to do that. We can in 14 days. But not today.

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We have enough grad assistants and people off the field like Steve Campbell and Jason Washington we could make it work. Bumphis and Hughes aren't leaving. Friend didn't leave when Auburn fired their coach. No one really knows what Schmidt does- and whatever it is it's of little value. Turner probably wouldn't leave.

We also have a lot of seniors like Will, Cole, Jett, and Bookie that could help lead their position groups to an extent.

I mean we're talking about two games. There is literally nothing to lose firing Arnett and some of his staff now. There is some risk in keeping them potentially muddying up the situation however.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

He's gone. Jesus people the guy is done. How fast we fire the man doesn't matter. It's all about hiring someone fast because of recruiting and the portal coming open. We can't hire a damn soul today or even next week.

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This is such a dumb line that all of you are using. It DOES matter because as fans we want to win as many games as we can, and do what it takes to raise our probability of winning.

Arnett gone today means we're MORE likely to beat Southern Miss and Ole Miss, so it needs to happen.

I'll say it again - I do not believe people who think that Arnett should coach the last 2 games really want him fired at all. Once you make the decision to fire someone, there's no reason to keep him around anymore, in this industry or any other.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

This is such a dumb line that all of you are using. It DOES matter because as fans we want to win as many games as we can, and do what it takes to raise our probability of winning.

Arnett gone today means we're MORE likely to beat Southern Miss and Ole Miss, so it needs to happen.

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We ain't winning shit else without him. OM is going to crush your hopes and take your babies. Nothing would get better with him fired. Same OC and DC would be calling plays.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We have enough grad assistants and people off the field like Steve Campbell and Jason Washington we could make it work. Bumphis and Hughes aren't leaving. Friend didn't leave when Auburn fired their coach. No one really knows what Schmidt does- and whatever it is it's of little value. Turner probably wouldn't leave.

We also have a lot of seniors like Will, Cole, Jett, and Bookie that could help lead their position groups to an extent.

I mean we're talking about two games. There is literally nothing to lose firing Arnett and some of his staff now. There is some risk in keeping them potentially muddying up the situation however.

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According to the reports, Fisher was already fired before our game. Why wait until today to actually fire him though?

There are always logistical things to work out in situations like these. I firmly believe Arnett is gone. But I would assume we didn't start seriously having this conversation as an athletic department until about 3-4 weeks ago. A&M has been having it for over a year and have a former SEC head coach on their staff ready to work through the logistics even if he isn't the interim.

We have to be prepared to assign roles to staff members that Arnett currently holds. We have to be prepared to contact recruits. Determine who interims and how practice schedules change. Messaging to a fan base, recruits, potential transfers, media, etc. The logistics of this for us with a first time AD also have to be weighed.

Firing a coach doesn't just happen. There's a lot that goes into it. Amd I'm going to give our athletic department the benefit of the doubt if he isn't fired today. Hell it could be tomorrow. But I'm guessing the day after the Egg Bowl.

We don't fire Arnett? I take it all back and you can 40 year flood the entire program from top to bottom for all I care.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

We ain't winning shit else without him. OM is going to crush your hopes and take your babies. Nothing would get better with him fired. Same OC and DC would be calling plays.

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I watched Cadillac ****ing Williams galvanize his team and almost beat us. If he can do it, then we can do it.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

According to the reports, Fisher was already fired before our game. Why wait until today to actually fire him though?

There are always logistical things to work out in situations like these. I firmly believe Arnett is gone. But I would assume we didn't start seriously having this conversation as an athletic department until about 3-4 weeks ago. A&M has been having it for over a year and have a former SEC head coach on their staff ready to go.

We have to be prepared to assign roles to staff members that Arnett currently holds. We have to be prepared to contact recruits. Determine who interims and how practice schedules change. Messaging to a fan base, recruits, potential transfers, media, etc. The logistics of this for us with a first time AD also have to be weighed.

Firing a coach doesn't just happen. There's a lot that goes into it. Amd I'm going to give our athletic department the benefit of the doubt if he isn't fired today. Hell it could be tomorrow. But I'm guessing the day after the Egg Bowl.

We don't fire Arnett? I take it all back and you can 40 year flood the entire program from top to bottom for all I care.

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The entire fanbase wanted Arnett fired a week ago. (And a lot of did earlier, but it wasn't until the Kentucky game that it became so unanimous.)

There's been plenty of time to figure out the logistics, and still 5 more days until the next game (which is basically a gimme, although Arnett might blow it if he's still the coach).

Note that Boise State did the same thing as A&M today. There are lots of examples every year of coaches getting fired midseason and making it work somehow.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

The entire fanbase wanted Arnett fired a week ago. (And a lot of did earlier, but it wasn't until the Kentucky game that it became so unanimous.)

There's been plenty of time to figure out the logistics, and still 5 more days until the next game (which is basically a gimme, although Arnett might blow it if he's still the coach).

Note that Boise State did the same thing as A&M today. There are lots of examples every year of coaches getting fired midseason and making it work somehow.

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Would the buyout clause in his contract not activating until after the season is over be a decent reason to not move forward? Or is it screw money, screw everything. Fire today and let the rest figure itself out?

Just wondering because I think the mindset of just do it without having any clue as to any other potential reasons that might prevent this from a reasonably done process makes no sense.

Also, comparing us and Boise State is ludicrous. Us and Arkansas would be a much better comparison.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

The entire fanbase wanted Arnett fired a week ago. (And a lot of did earlier, but it wasn't until the Kentucky game that it became so unanimous.)

There's been plenty of time to figure out the logistics, and still 5 more days until the next game (which is basically a gimme, although Arnett might blow it if he's still the coach).

Note that Boise State did the same thing as A&M today. There are lots of examples every year of coaches getting fired midseason and making it work somehow.

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How many examples of first year coaches? None

I'm fine with firing him now, tomorrow, after USM, after EB...just get the hire right

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

How many examples of first year coaches? None

I'm fine with firing him now, tomorrow, after USM, after EB...just get the hire right

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It is critical that we get this hire right. There might not be a hire this meaningful for the program ever.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

It is critical that we get this hire right. There might not be a hire this meaningful for the program ever.

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I agree absolutely

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

It is critical that we get this hire right. There might not be a hire this meaningful for the program ever.

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Yep, this far outweighs if we keep a coach two more weeks. This hire needs to be damn near perfect.