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10-08-2023, 07:20 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Don't know why more of you aren't naming Clawson from Wake. If the dude can win there, he can win here. He'd be a big upgrade.

My biggest reservation there is he has a history of taking a couple of years to rebuild. We need a splash.
10-08-2023, 07:22 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

Whatever we do, we need to stick with transitioning to the more common ground-based, mobile QB, spread option type offense. We don't need to go back to an AR concept. We're half way through this transition, it'd be stupid to go back at this point. There's one Mike Leach, there's tons of Dan and Gus's.

Nah. We need something entertaining. Most of our fans are tired of ground based offense. Give the people a modified Air Raid or Veer and Shoot and start blowing up some scoreboards. We would be the first team potentially to run a modified Air Raid in the SEC. Could give us an advantage.
10-08-2023, 07:37 PM
PGHBulldogBG

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

But would MSU be an upgrade from Wake for Clawson. My 8 ball says highly doubtful at this time.

Yes because Wake may end up without a home like Oregon State and Washington State. Clawson has been my number one choice since we hired Moorhead and nothing has changed. Then he was my number one choice when we hired Leach and Arnett. The fact he is winning 7-9 games a year at Wake Forest while basically have a huge talent deficit is remarkable. His offense is exciting too.
10-08-2023, 07:45 PM
RocketDawg

I'd rather have Mullen back than Malzahn.
10-08-2023, 07:59 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Bottom line on all of this. He beats Arkansas in two weeks, he is not getting fired, barring a 2008 egg bowl performance, which there is zero indication of happening.

If we are 4-3 headed into the last 5 games, we have a good shot at being bowl-eligible.

This is the way.
10-08-2023, 09:32 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Don't know why more of you aren't naming Clawson from Wake. If the dude can win there, he can win here. He'd be a big upgrade.

Sure, add him to the list. If we were willing to give him $5M or so, he'd probably come. There are probably 10-15 current P5 head coaches who would come without us having to break the bank, but I don't know that any of them would make our whole fanbase happy.
10-08-2023, 09:38 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Sure, add him to the list. If we were willing to give him $5M or so, he'd probably come. There are probably 10-15 current P5 head coaches who would come without us having to break the bank, but I don't know that any of them would make our whole fanbase happy.

Clawson is making between $4-$4.5 MIL now according to most reports. They are private so don't publish their coaches salaries.
10-08-2023, 10:07 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Sure, add him to the list. If we were willing to give him $5M or so, he'd probably come. There are probably 10-15 current P5 head coaches who would come without us having to break the bank, but I don't know that any of them would make our whole fanbase happy.

Clawson has the personality of a stick. We need a guy with personality. We need to make Starkville cool. I know some do not want to here that because that makes us too much like OM, but you have to have flash to attract talent in todays game.
10-08-2023, 10:30 PM
Quaoarsking

So, Tom Brady then?
10-08-2023, 11:26 PM
Maverick91

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Clawson has the personality of a stick. We need a guy with personality. We need to make Starkville cool. I know some do not want to here that because that makes us too much like OM, but you have to have flash to attract talent in todays game.

Completely agreed! But you can find cool without being slimy (lame ��*⬛) I’m thinking honestly Eli drinkwitz, not saying for us to poach him. But his type of demeanor, he is a cool dude fun to listen to and the players are attracted to him. He gets a flashy recruit like every year. Someone like him but hopefully a better coach would be nice.
10-09-2023, 08:18 AM
KB21

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Clawson has the personality of a stick. We need a guy with personality. We need to make Starkville cool. I know some do not want to here that because that makes us too much like OM, but you have to have flash to attract talent in todays game.

Exactly! Look at this group of younger head coaches in the NFL. We have fans that would shit an absolute brick if Mississippi State ever hired anyone that looked like these coaches. College football is in need of a youthful revolution among its head coaches. Got to phase out the mindset a lot of college football coaches have when it comes to offensive football.
10-09-2023, 08:20 AM
Santiago

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Clawson has the personality of a stick. We need a guy with personality. We need to make Starkville cool. I know some do not want to here that because that makes us too much like OM, but you have to have flash to attract talent in todays game.

TX State HC - he has that uniqueness
10-09-2023, 08:22 AM
KB21

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Originally Posted by Santiago

TX State HC - he has that uniqueness

Maybe my top guy. Of course, we will have some of the poor ole state folks who think he's too young and too inexperienced, and that his offense is just too exotic.
10-09-2023, 08:31 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by KB21

Maybe my top guy. Of course, we will have some of the poor ole state folks who think he's too young and too inexperienced, and that his offense is just too exotic.

I like him a whole lot. Do think lack of experience is an issue and the fact he has never stayed at a place for more than a year. I want to see him build a program for a few years at least.
10-09-2023, 08:36 AM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I like him a whole lot. Do think lack of experience is an issue and the fact he has never stayed at a place for more than a year. I want to see him build a program for a few years at least.

From the looks of things we may not have a year for any young Coach develop and improve:

For reference see: Arnett, Zach
10-09-2023, 08:36 AM
RiverCityDawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I like him a whole lot. Do think lack of experience is an issue and the fact he has never stayed at a place for more than a year. I want to see him build a program for a few years at least.

By the time he or someone like him builds a program he would be out of our league. You think Mullen would have come to State after he had the 2014 year somewhere else? Elko at Duke is almost certainly out of our league after he's proven he can win at Duke.

We have to see the potential and catch a guy on the way up, otherwise he ain't coming here. Kinne has done it at multiple stops, offensive guy, young energetic, uses the portal and is a bit unconventional. All things we have to have with the next guy.
10-09-2023, 08:40 AM
KB21

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Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg

By the time he or someone like him builds a program he would be out of our league. You think Mullen would have come to State after he had the 2014 year somewhere else? Elko at Duke is almost certainly out of our league after he's proven he can win at Duke.

We have to see the potential and catch a guy on the way up, otherwise he ain't coming here. Kinne has done it at multiple stops, offensive guy, young energetic, uses the portal and is a bit unconventional. All things we have to have with the next guy.

That's the key word. Unconventional. When you eschew conventional thinking, it opens up massive possibilities. That's what Mike Leach did. He went against convention when he created the greatest system that ever graced a college football field, and he changed the way the game is played.
10-09-2023, 08:41 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg

By the time he or someone like him builds a program he would be out of our league. You think Mullen would have come to State after he had the 2014 year somewhere else? Elko at Duke is almost certainly out of our league after he's proven he can win at Duke.

We have to see the potential and catch a guy on the way up, otherwise he ain't coming here. Kinne has done it at multiple stops, offensive guy, young energetic, uses the portal and is a bit unconventional. All things we have to have with the next guy.

Yeah that's ignorance. But so be it. He hasn't been at a place for more than a year. Name the coaches that jumped to the SEC after only 1 year in G5. Then name the ones who succeeded.

And I love him, I think I was the first or one of the first persons to name him on here weeks ago. Doesn't mean that I don't have a very valid opinion about him jumping a lot and it's hasn't lead to success at this level.
10-09-2023, 09:01 AM
KB21

We have a fanbase that would shit a brick if our head coach looked like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F78hjAwX...jpg&name=large
10-09-2023, 09:04 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I like him a whole lot. Do think lack of experience is an issue and the fact he has never stayed at a place for more than a year. I want to see him build a program for a few years at least.

To me, that shows he can take what's on the Roster and make it work.

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