-21.5 vs Western Michigan

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Nope. Some of us got exactly what we wanted with 2 good ol boys following Arnett around all game. No excuses. We wanted to get tougher and more physical by getting rid of every trace of one of the toughest coaches of all time

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This isn't talked about enough. I know a lot of it is personnel, but we are not tough. We have guys on our back end (Ellington) who don't like contact.

ZA is soft on players. Stop holding their hand treating them like 3rd graders. Our toughness culture has gone to crap. Not JoMo level yet, but trending that way.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

We can still go 8-4 is what nobody wants to hear

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I'm not sure who doesn't want to hear that. It is a message board. People are frustrated.

If we win in Fayetteville, things will get better here quickly.

So far state is 1-4 against the spread. Probably a good idea to keep riding that train the rest of the way out.

I was just texted this and apparently it is true.

When Western Michigan played at Toledo, they were a 22 point underdog.

They are currently a 20.5 point underdog to us right now.

That is depressing.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Nope. Some of us got exactly what we wanted with 2 good ol boys following Arnett around all game. No excuses. We wanted to get tougher and more physical by getting rid of every trace of one of the toughest coaches of all time

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Did one of our fans commit murder or something? Last I checked, Leach passed away from a heart attack. What's this talk of "getting rid of Leach"

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Did one of our fans commit murder or something? Last I checked, Leach passed away from a heart attack. What's this talk of "getting rid of Leach"

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You are smart enough to figure what I am saying out. If you think I am saying anyone wanted Leach to pass idk how to help you.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

This isn't talked about enough. I know a lot of it is personnel, but we are not tough. We have guys on our back end (Ellington) who don't like contact.

ZA is soft on players. Stop holding their hand treating them like 3rd graders. Our toughness culture has gone to crap. Not JoMo level yet, but trending that way.

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JoMo inherited a tough team and they mostly sustained that for 1 year (at least the D did with Shoop). Year 2 is when it became very noticeable. So I would say it's actually worse than JoMo cause this year ... it's very noticeable.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

JoMo inherited a tough team and they mostly sustained that for 1 year (at least the D did with Shoop). Year 2 is when it became very noticeable. So I would say it's actually worse than JoMo cause this year ... it's very noticeable.

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Agree

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Southern miss couldn?t beat us if we spotted them a 14 point lead. Arnett will be the coach in 2024.

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I wouldn't go that far. Our pass D is historically bad. It may look like they have Brett Favre back there when we play.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

JoMo inherited a tough team and they mostly sustained that for 1 year (at least the D did with Shoop). Year 2 is when it became very noticeable. So I would say it's actually worse than JoMo cause this year ... it's very noticeable.

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Yep, year 2 K State come into Starkville in early September heat and beat our dicks in the dirt. We looked slow and weak which is exactly what we look like now.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

There's a better chance of making a snowman in the Sahara desert than there is this team winning 8 games

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We are more likely to win 3 games than we are 8 at this point. Meaning neither are happening.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Speaking of Freeze, wasn't there a rumor that they offered Will a sweet NIL deal that he balked on? Commitments and all.

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He was offered a deal from auburn. Not a rumor

I'm not a Will hater, but everyone knows he has limitations. Our OC wanted Wright but refuses to play him and we're mid-season with a QB that's just struggling. At some point somethings got to give.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

They aren't brothels. They are homes for wayward girls. Brother Hugh ministers to them twice a week.

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I don?t care what they are or what is going on, their team looks better than ours and kind of looks exactly what I expected our team to look like this year.

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

I don?t care what they are or what is going on, their team looks better than ours and kind of looks exactly what I expected our team to look like this year.

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Honestly, they look worse than I expected offensively until last week. And turnovers and running the ball was what kept them in that game. I expected us to look better than we do and better than they have been. Did you watch the California and TAM games? 10-17 for 94 yards passing and 9-23 for 56 vs TAM. Their defense is about what I thought.

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

I don?t care what they are or what is going on, their team looks better than ours and kind of looks exactly what I expected our team to look like this year.

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That's because Hugh Freeze is a seasoned head coach with previous SEC experience. The entire Brain Trust around Arnett can't hold a candle to what Freeze has done.

And, if Cal?s kicker would?ve made 2 of 3 kicks he missed, Burn wouldn?t have won. Actually, they shouldn?t have won it.

A&M, FLA, Georgia. OVER in UGA/UK, OM

3-2 this week

14-9 this yr ATS