I'm really liking the way we are trending with QB's

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Originally Posted by KB21

It's going to be hard to get good WRs as well.

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Why will it be harder here than ole miss? Or ark? Or any other similar program?? You're just beating your head against the wall throwing a fit bc we aren't true air raid! I would understand if we lit the sec up with it, but we didn't.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Only at Mississippi State can we hire one of the top offensive coordinators in the country have fans shitting on it because they want to keep running the same inefficient offense that was stuck in neutral against every defense with a pulse.

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Our fan base is...special. Lol

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

It only gets exciting if Will is graciously set to the side. These other guys are completely different than Will stylistically. It feels like we'll still be trying to put that square peg in that round hole for the next year or two otherwise.

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As probably one of Will's harshest critics around here (Bucky can attest), he's going to be just fine in this offense (probably better than AR).

Richardson, CMU's QB with Barbay, is a worse athlete and thrower than Will and threw for 2,633 yards at 60.3% with 24 TDs to 6 Ints on a 8.3 yards per throw average.

Brice is more athletic than Will but has a similar arm (if not weaker) and threw for 2,921 yards at 62.8% with 27 TDs to 6 Ints on a 8.4 yards per throw average.

If they can do that, Will will throw for at least 3,000 plus and 30 TDs again. His completion % may go down some with the more throws down the field but that will be it.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Why? Barbay doesn't need a running QB to run his offense.

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No, he doesn't. But he will cater the offense to the QB, and Will is different from everyone else. So what happens if Will gets hurt? It's really hard to make those kinds of adjustments in-season. You kinda saw that at Arkansas when KJ got hurt.

So my point was, you want the same types of QBs so they can all come in and run the offense. We're going to have QBs with different skill sets.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

I know right. We won't pass it 62.93041239842309% of the time so of course no one will want to play QB or WR for us and we will suck. Who cares if we score it 35 PPG.

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LOL at the idea that Mississippi State is going to score 35 ppg in the SEC with a pro style offense.

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Originally Posted by KB21

LOL at the idea that Mississippi State is going to score 35 ppg in the SEC with a pro style offense.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

No, he doesn't. But he will cater the offense to the QB, and Will is different from everyone else. So what happens if Will gets hurt? It's really hard to make those kinds of adjustments in-season. You kinda saw that at Arkansas when KJ got hurt.

So my point was, you want the same types of QBs so they can all come in and run the offense. We're going to have QBs with different skill sets.

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I see you what you are saying. Let's see who they bring in. I think Parson is different but he can sling it and you wouldn't have to change it much. Just add for his athleticism.

Honestly, I don't think we get Wright anyway. I look for him to go G5 to start. He would be good in a Mahlzon offense. But we need a back up and one with SEC or P5 playing experience would be hard to pass up right now.

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Originally Posted by KB21

LOL at the idea that Mississippi State is going to score 35 ppg in the SEC with a pro style offense.

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Who's running a pro style offense?

And we only scored 25PPG in the SEC last year, so I don't know why you're clamoring for that.

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Originally Posted by KB21

LOL at the idea that Mississippi State is going to score 35 ppg in the SEC with a pro style offense.

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He said PPG not SEC PPG. Don't try to change what he said.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Who's running a pro style offense?

And we only scored 25PPG in the SEC last year, so I don't know why you're clamoring for that.

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Technically speaking it was like 20 PPG offensively. If we really want to get in the minutia of it.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I see you what you are saying. Let's see who they bring in. I think Parson is different but he can sling it and you wouldn't have to change it much. Just add for his athleticism.

Honestly, I don't think we get Wright anyway. I look for him to go G5 to start. He would be good in a Mahlzon offense. But we need a back up and one with SEC or P5 playing experience would be hard to pass up right now.

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Wright is okay as a backup. He's well below average accuracy wise.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Technically speaking it was like 20 PPG offensively. If we really want to get in the minutia of it.

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Just off raw numbers it was about 33 PPG overall and 25 PPG against SEC defenses. Now, we can get into fair debates about whether Arkansas was really an SEC defense....

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Who's running a pro style offense?

And we only scored 25PPG in the SEC last year, so I don't know why you're clamoring for that.

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Barbay runs a pro style spread. It's Jim McElwain's offense. Barbay learned it from him and has carried it with him in his limited coordinator experience. The roots of this offense is actually in the old Dennis Erickson one back system. McElwain picked it up while working for John L Smith and Scott Linehan at Louisville. Barbay picked it up working for McElwain at Colorado State, Florida, and Central Michigan.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Just off raw numbers it was about 33 PPG overall and 25 PPG against SEC defenses. Now, we can get into fair debates about whether Arkansas was really an SEC defense....

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I think he's talking about the fact that defensive and special team scores are counted in those PPG numbers.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Just off raw numbers it was about 33 PPG overall and 25 PPG against SEC defenses. Now, we can get into fair debates about whether Arkansas was really an SEC defense....

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5 of those PPG were the defense or special teams scores which is why I was saying 20 PPG offensively.

I agree about Arky lol.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Barbay runs a pro style spread. It's Jim McElwain's offense. Barbay learned it from him and has carried it with him in his limited coordinator experience. The roots of this offense is actually in the old Dennis Erickson one back system. McElwain picked it up while working for John L Smith and Scott Linehan at Louisville. Barbay picked it up working for McElwain at Colorado State, Florida, and Central Michigan.

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Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. I'd gently recommend watching some game film.

This is the problem with people trying to put offenses in neat boxes with labels on them. That's your first mistake. If I HAD to label what Barbay is going to run, I would call it "veer and shoot" which is nothing close to "pro style." But his offense has air raid elements in it, spread elements in it, and some power run game elements in it, which was something sorely missing last year.

You're going to love it. It's just gonna take you two years to admit it and take that message board L.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

A top 5 OC in the country statistically speaking is bad. Got it. You're either trolling or clueless. I'm going to say a little of both.

The only one on staff who had called plays was Miller and we all know he's not who you were mentioning as guys on staff.

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Miller actually was...

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Originally Posted by KB21

It's going to be hard to get good WRs as well.

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Truth

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

5 of those PPG were the defense or special teams scores which is why I was saying 20 PPG offensively.

I agree about Arky lol.

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Fair points, of course.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Wright is okay as a backup. He's well below average accuracy wise.

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I agree completely. Just hearing that he is looking at starting opportunities first. In a Mahlzon type of offense he may be better in overall but he would be a good back up.