So Ole Miss just added a transfer

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Judging from the last game I'm not expecting a well oiled offense, at least not right away. I expect a rollercoaster with the offense.

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The majority of the offense this is their 3rd year starting or playing a ton. Not being good right away won’t fly. You have a 3rd year starter at QB. Both RB’s are basically 3rd year starters. Williams & Walley 3rd year starters. Calvin knows the offense better than anybody on the team. This is Tulu 3rd year in the system & he started half the season last year. RaRa was a Freshman All SEC. Cole Smith, Kam Jones, Dollar, & Sharp all have a ton of starts. There are literally no excuses. Nobody in the SEC is returning that much experience. The defense is exactly the same. We lost 2 & a half defensive starters. Emerson, Green, & the half is Brule.

Tell me again why we shouldn’t expect 8-9 wins this season?

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

The majority of the offense this is their 3rd year starting or playing a ton. Not being good right away won’t fly. You have a 3rd year starter at QB. Both RB’s are basically 3rd year starters. Williams & Walley 3rd year starters. Calvin knows the offense better than anybody on the team. This is Tulu 3rd year in the system & he started half the season last year. RaRa was a Freshman All SEC. Cole Smith, Kam Jones, Dollar, & Sharp all have a ton of starts. There are literally no excuses. Nobody in the SEC is returning that much experience. The defense is exactly the same. We lost 2 & a half defensive starters. Emerson, Green, & the half is Brule.

Tell me again why we shouldn’t expect 8-9 wins this season?

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Because T Tech shut us down

UPig will likely be ranked in the top 20 to start 2022. People thinking they are rebuilding are mistaken

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Judging from the last game I'm not expecting a well oiled offense, at least not right away. I expect a rollercoaster with the offense.

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A lot of truth there. The offense looked like a Brand new Italian sports car against A&M. Bye week the next week then it ran like a 1976 AMC Gremlin that was missing a spark plug against Bama.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Because T Tech shut us down

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You have a point but so does IYOK. Something definitely collapsed the last 2 games and I ain't football smart enough to explain in detail as to why. But overall we had some quality wins mixed with some shoulda couldas. Based on that and what's coming back gives creedence to IYOK's Take. It seems its a more overall encompassing assessment. I like seeing someone with good connections letting it be known Leach ain't riding the good ship lollipop this year and he needs to do better than mediocre things or else he may get it in the ear.

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Does having 5 schollies left dictate portal work or lack thereof?

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My opinion they are waiting until after all the spring training to see what they lose and what comes available in the portal.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

My opinion they are waiting until after all the spring training to see what they lose and what comes available in the portal.

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Hopefully somebody's working the phones and ain't lolligagging till the last moment.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

My opinion they are waiting until after all the spring training to see what they lose and what comes available in the portal.

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Just about the only thing coming available after spring is guys not on the 2 deep. The OL recruit and DB are exceptions. I think they got in the portal late. But there's nobody out there that's going to blow us away. Props for getting a couple guys early, but we needed more.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Mullen last 4 years he avg 8.5 wins & we had 3 9 win seasons in those 4. That’s what we need from Leach & what we were sold with Leach. That’s why this season is so important. We return more production than any SEC school. We return like 17 starters. If he doesn’t win 8-9 games this season he won’t for a while. 2023 we’ll be replacing the entire defense. 2024 we’ll be replacing damn near the entire offense. It’s now or maybe never this season. He needs to get it done.

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You're counting bowl games that Dan didn't even coach. Bowl games are a toss up and half the teams don't even show up. We were without 16 players in our last one.

Dans last 4 years, 2014-2017, we averaged 7.75 wins and 4.25 losses per year in the regular season. That was dans best 4 year run. Exceptional for a school like ours honestly.
I think leach can match dans 7.1-4.9 average.
We'll see.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I've been patient with Leach. My patience will run out if we win less than 8 games. Year three I want to see a well oiled offense w/ a salty defense.

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The worst job in the division playing the toughest schedule in the country and we are done with our coach if anything less than 8-4? Tough crowd.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

The majority of the offense this is their 3rd year starting or playing a ton. Not being good right away won’t fly. You have a 3rd year starter at QB. Both RB’s are basically 3rd year starters. Williams & Walley 3rd year starters. Calvin knows the offense better than anybody on the team. This is Tulu 3rd year in the system & he started half the season last year. RaRa was a Freshman All SEC. Cole Smith, Kam Jones, Dollar, & Sharp all have a ton of starts. There are literally no excuses. Nobody in the SEC is returning that much experience. The defense is exactly the same. We lost 2 & a half defensive starters. Emerson, Green, & the half is Brule.

Tell me again why we shouldn’t expect 8-9 wins this season?

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Bc we will have less talent than 8 of our 12 opponents (Unless you don't believe in the accuracy of recruiting rankings). Much less than 5.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

This staff looks like they've damn near quit recruiting. It's getting ridiculous.

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It's not going to be too good if we lose to the University of Mississippi Rebels 3 years in a row. A lot of fans may be a little upset.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

The worst job in the division playing the toughest schedule in the country and we are done with our coach if anything less than 8-4? Tough crowd.

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3rd year, Chief. Gotta see something. Tough schedule be damned. This the SEC it's always tough. I'll pump some sunshine but I ain't pumping bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

The majority of the offense this is their 3rd year starting or playing a ton. Not being good right away won?t fly. You have a 3rd year starter at QB. Both RB?s are basically 3rd year starters. Williams & Walley 3rd year starters. Calvin knows the offense better than anybody on the team. This is Tulu 3rd year in the system & he started half the season last year. RaRa was a Freshman All SEC. Cole Smith, Kam Jones, Dollar, & Sharp all have a ton of starts. There are literally no excuses. Nobody in the SEC is returning that much experience. The defense is exactly the same. We lost 2 & a half defensive starters. Emerson, Green, & the half is Brule.

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As much as I'm a sunshine pumper and Leach apologist, I agree with that. We should be ready for the early season as much as anyone. We finally have some experience, and it's returning experience and not a team full of unknown portal guys.

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

It's not going to be too good if we lose to the University of Mississippi Rebels 3 years in a row. A lot of fans may be a little upset.

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A little upset?

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Originally Posted by MedDawg

As much as I'm a sunshine pumper and Leach apologist, I agree with that. We should be ready for the early season as much as anyone. We finally have some experience, and it's returning experience and not a team full of unknown portal guys.

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Exactly.

I'm all for giving Leach time.

It's year three.

It's time.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Exactly.

I'm all for giving Leach time.

It's year three.

It's time.

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I like Leach a lot but he needs to beat om this year and we need to have a good year. A good year to me would be 7 wins(regular season) and beating om, a very good year would be 8 and beating om, more than 8 wins I would consider a great year. We have to play well and hard and look competent. We definitely have to beat om this year or he's gonna lose just about everyone and at that point he's dead in the water.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

You're counting bowl games that Dan didn't even coach. Bowl games are a toss up and half the teams don't even show up. We were without 16 players in our last one.

Dans last 4 years, 2014-2017, we averaged 7.75 wins and 4.25 losses per year in the regular season. That was dans best 4 year run. Exceptional for a school like ours honestly.
I think leach can match dans 7.1-4.9 average.
We'll see.

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Bowl games? Or 1 game?

Since when do bowl games not count?

Ok by that logic Leach has avg 5 wins his 2 seasons. He better get to winning if he’s going to avg 7.1 regular season wins.

Bottom line Mullen & his program had 3 9 win or more seasons his last 4 seasons. Those are facts without any ifs, ands, or buts. Leach need to hit that this year because if he doesn’t in 2022 he’s not going to at MSU.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Bc we will have less talent than 8 of our 12 opponents (Unless you don't believe in the accuracy of recruiting rankings). Much less than 5.

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I’m not saying you’re making a lot of excuses but if someone said this sounds like an excuse I would agree with that person.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I like Leach a lot but he needs to beat om this year and we need to have a good year. A good year to me would be 7 wins(regular season) and beating om, a very good year would be 8 and beating om, more than 8 wins I would consider a great year. We have to play well and hard and look competent. We definitely have to beat om this year or he's gonna lose just about everyone and at that point he's dead in the water.

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This team is built for a decent year. We have more returning experience than just about any SEC team. This needs to be at least an 8 win season, including a win over OM, for me to continue my patient support of Leach. If we **** around and only win 6 games and lose to OM again I'm all for Cohen pulling the trigger on the experiment.