Sunday Morning QB- Mugged in Memphis Edition

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09-19-2021, 01:10 PM
defiantdog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I just want Will to push it down the field more and scramble a little more when warranted. That's it. And I think doing that would solve most of our offensive issues.

Or just get rid of the ball faster and not take the entire play clock every play.
09-19-2021, 01:13 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I just want Will to push it down the field more and scramble a little more when warranted. That's it. And I think doing that would solve most of our offensive issues.

The reason we are struggling is not Will?s fault.

He is doing what he can based on the offense he is being asked to run.

The fact that we are being outschemed every week by CUSA defensive coordinators is not Will?s fault.

Washington showed everyone the blueprint yo beat this offense. Leach refuses to adjust. Blaming Will is lazy.
09-19-2021, 01:15 PM
Maroonthirteen

Y'all are so full of it. Y'all aren't seeing receivers down field open.

The check downs are because that is all that is open vs a drop 8. Anytime he does throw more than a 5 yard pass, the wr is clobbered immediately because those DBs are top of the wr.

Anyways, doesn't matter, people see they want.
09-19-2021, 01:22 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Y'all aren't seeing receivers down field open.

False.
09-19-2021, 01:32 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Y'all are so full of it. Y'all aren't seeing receivers down field open.

The check downs are because that is all that is open vs a drop 8. Anytime he does throw more than a 5 yard pass, the wr is clobbered immediately because those DBs are top of the wr.

Anyways, doesn't matter, people see they want.

I didn't record it but my recollection is we moved the ball somewhat well against drop 8 (rushing 3) in 1st half, with throws downfield a ways (10 maybe 15 yarders). It was when they rushed 4 (and dropped 7) in 2nd half when we looked like crap struggled more to move or sustain drives.
09-19-2021, 01:33 PM
TrapGame

Leach's downfall will be not changing his offensive philosophy to evolve a running game to compliment his air raid passing style. I think he needs a good dual threat QB w/ a couple of big, bruising backs.
09-19-2021, 01:36 PM
Activated Alpha

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

When he throws for 400 more and a few scores against LSU you will be here eating shit like you do every time he starts. Im done with this.

I bet he won't score more than 14 on LSU
09-19-2021, 01:37 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Leach's downfall will be not changing his offensive philosophy to evolve a running game to compliment his air raid passing style. I think he needs a good dual threat QB w/ a couple of big, bruising backs.

Maybe so but he also needs the personnel to do that. Right now he doesn't have that and maybe he isn't recruiting it either. I'm not keeping up with recruiting enough to know for sure right now. Historically speaking tho his QBs don't run and I do think that would help if we had a QB that could make teams pay more when 8 are dropped. So you may have a valid point if he doesn't adapt some.
09-19-2021, 01:39 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Fader21

. Moorhead was doing a great job .

haha, thanks buddy. I needed a good laugh today.
09-19-2021, 01:40 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Maybe so but he also needs the personnel to do that. Right now he doesn't have that and maybe he isn't recruiting it either. I'm not keeping up with recruiting enough to know for sure right now. Historically speaking tho his QBs don't run and I do think that would help if we had a QB that could make teams pay more when 8 are dropped. So you may have a valid point if he doesn't adapt some.

I guess any system will work if you have superior players. I suggest a lot of you re-read Coach34's post and let it sink in.
09-19-2021, 01:46 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Maybe so but he also needs the personnel to do that. Right now he doesn't have that and maybe he isn't recruiting it either. I'm not keeping up with recruiting enough to know for sure right now. Historically speaking tho his QBs don't run and I do think that would help if we had a QB that could make teams pay more when 8 are dropped. So you may have a valid point if he doesn't adapt some.

Just having an athletic dual threat QB on the goal line plays would totally change things. Another wrinkle a defense has to think about. A 6'3" 235 QB who can throw it but can also bowl over a LB for a chunk of real estate four or five times a game would do wonders for this offense.
09-19-2021, 01:48 PM
Coach34

They played a 3 man front probably 65-68 of the 83 plays we ran. They didn’t do any big changing in the 2nd half
09-19-2021, 01:48 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I guess any system will work if you have superior players. I suggest a lot of you re-read Coach34's post and let it sink in.

You mean like our 2014 or 17 teams that were pretty good. Mature and experienced. Players maybe similar to what Leach has that were developed over time. Were those OLinemen on either team 4* players at all (1 on 2016 was). One walk-on Olineman on 2014 team. 2013 up/down year. 2016 up/down year. I suggest you develop a better memory of past regimes. Or maybe stick to Hoops.
09-19-2021, 01:50 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

You mean like our 2014 or 17 teams that were pretty good. Mature and experienced. Players maybe similar to what Leach has that were developed over time. Were those OLinemen on either team 4* players at all (1 on 2016 was). One walk-on Olineman on 2014 team. 2013 up/down year. 2016 up/down year. I suggest you develop a better memory of past regimes. Or maybe stick to Hoops.

I suggest you listen to Hoops. He knows more than you.
09-19-2021, 01:53 PM
DownwardDawg

Unfortunately, we're just riding it out again. Waiting on our next coach and praying someone makes the right decision.
09-19-2021, 01:53 PM
Coach34

8 of our 11 offensive starters are JR’s or Sr’s. Just how old do we have to be?
09-19-2021, 01:54 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

You mean like our 2014 or 17 teams that were pretty good. Mature and experienced. Players maybe similar to what Leach has that were developed over time. Were those OLinemen on either team 4* players at all (1 on 2016 was). One walk-on Olineman on 2014 team. 2013 up/down year. 2016 up/down year. I suggest you develop a better memory of past regimes. Or maybe stick to Hoops.

Our team under Mullen immediately became better running the ball. The reason? Better scheme.

We went from embarrassment to really good in the span of one year, from 2008 to 2009.

If you think I?m wrong, go back and watch the 2008 egg bowl and then watch the 2009 egg bowl. Mullen installed a competent offense and took advantage of what we had, he didn?t wait 3-4 years to bring his guys in.

Leach is getting paid to win games now, not run a scheme we aren?t equipped to run.
09-19-2021, 01:55 PM
William Tecumsah Sherman

I was under the impression that Leach didn?t need big time QBs. So I don?t blame Will. It?s the offense.
09-19-2021, 01:55 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Coach34

8 of our 11 offensive starters are JR’s or Sr’s. Just how old do we have to be?

"We're young" is the go-to excuse. You don't even have to research it.
09-19-2021, 01:55 PM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

1. I love college football Saturday's. Football and food. Just a great day of relaxation and cheering for your team and the teams you bet on with some Tito's and a 20 ounce ribeye cooked to a perfect medium pink. And like my boy Jake Wimberly I also use ketchup.

2. Yes we got screwed on the punt return call. So what? There were 110 plats in the game. That 1 play didnt decide it. Why was the team that let Arkansas State score 50 on them that close to begin with?

3. Rogers set some State records yesterday. Most passing attempts. Most completions. Most dump downs to RB's in a game. Slowest run for an attempted 2 point conversion. I could complete 70% of the passes in this offense at age 50 let alone when I was 20

4. Anybody saying that this offensive scheme is not the problem is not a smart person. I'm going to avoid name-calling and not call these people dumbasses. I'm not going to call them football illiterate. I'm not even going to say "shut up stupid". But anybody that thinks an offensive scheme is effective when a defense lines up the same way and plays it the same way over and over and over and over again play after play without changing- is effective? Then those people likely need someone to use a spoon for them and to unbuckle their pants. When Rush 3 and Drop 8 play after mf'ing play is what you know is coming- and you still struggle to score then you aren't an effective playcaller in an effective offense. When a defense plays so vanilla against you play after play and you cant abuse them- then your offense sux.

5. I've seen people post "the offense wasn't the problem. We had 459 yards". First of all we ran 83 plays compared to our normal 65-67. That's like playing an extra quarter for us. So yeah- we had more yards. Secondly- Memphis was giving up an average of 490 yards per game. So the fact that we couldnt even meet their standard of shittiness magnifies the fact that our offense is not good.

6. I hate watching this Wishbone 2020 offense. Snap, drop back, dump down to the RB. Watch RB get blown the **** up by a LB closing downhill at a high rate of speed. Snap, drop back, rush 3 drop 8 yet aGAIN....look around for 5 seconds, hit Williams in the middle of the field for a 6 yard gain. Over and over and over and over. It's like watching a wing-T team almost. It's so painful to watch.

7. You know how to figure out a coach is just collecting a check? Watch his reaction to a blatant missed call by the refs. I went out on the field and picked up the ball before a team could run another play after an inadvertent whistle the refs were just going to try and pretend didnt happen during a game. The very least Leach could have done was raise a little hell and ask for a replay. He has coaches in the press box- shirley somebody saw the ref going to mark the ball and moving his hands over his head. Shirley a player told him they heard a whistle even if he didnt. Wtf? Dont just stand there.

8. The OL is not the problem. When you throw the ball 60 times you are going to have a couple of holding penalties. When you throw the ball 60 times- there is going to be a couple of sacks. Defensive lines in the South just have too many athletes.

9. Defense did their job. Gave up 17 points to a pretty good offense.

10. Not kicking the FG to start the 3rd Q bit us in the ass. Not having a decent 2 point play bit us in the ass. Being soft as an offense bit us in the ass in the red zone. Onside kicking a 2nd time in a row instead of kicking it deep bit us in the ass. Not changing your offense for 25 years bit us in the ass. We scored 29 points on a team that gave up 50 to Arkansas State. Ark State scored 3 points on Washington last night. We scored 34 points on La Tech- since then La Tech has given up 42 points to SE Louisiana and 39 to SMU. We are the worst offense La Tech has faced this year. Scheme isnt the problem tho is it?

This team isnt going bowling in 2021 unless our GPA gets us in again with 5 wins. Provided we somehow get a 5th

Spot on 34.

This is what we deserve because we have too many people in charge and fans who think we are doing good right now.

Rest of the football world (esp OM) is laughing their tails off at us. Poor ole missitippi state

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