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12-15-2019, 12:04 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Will Rogers hurt his ankle, but came back and led them to a win. Tough kid

Great. Now if we can get through the even more stupid Mississippi one.
12-15-2019, 03:00 AM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Rogers wasnt 100 percent before he got hurt on the second series. I told yall he would be the best passer on campus when he got there. He is a cerebral assassin. Big time competitor and great intangibles. Loves the game. Wont have to worry about him skipping class, missing meetings or being late.

Jackson is the most dominant player I have seen in a long time. He played when he wanted to play at GC. But when he wants too he is one of the best players in the country. He can do it all. Penetrate, two gap, rush the passer shock shed the whole 9.

Dean and Rogers are going to be roommates. Dont be surprised when these two are carrying us to a bowl in the future. Dean is the real deal and is a stand up kid. Very similar to Rogers.

Jevon Banks had a great week and a great game. He is going to be a DL for us and be a damn good one. Grantham would love to have this kid. Long arms and physical. Plays with a chip on his shoulder. Has been that way all year. He was giving Chris Brooks hell from August till today bc he disrespected him and Olive Branch.

Walley is going to be ok. His little brother is the dawg. Trust me. He is a steal have to hang onto him. Forbes will grow into a draft pick if he will put in the work. Excellent frame. They hardly ever tried him. Reminds me a lot of Dantzler. Needs to become more physical and tackle better but some guys just arent made like that.

For all the love Jackson gets, Cooley is damn good himself. He is extremely underrated. He has longer arms than Jackson. Once he shocks you you are in trouble. Gonna be a good one on the interior.

Says a lot that the best WR in the game arguably was Ashton Nickelberry. He is a dawg, we probably wont give him a shot but he is a lot like Rufus except faster. Legit 4.3 speed. One of the fastest kids in the state. Has gotten better every single year. Him and Rogers would be deadly together but Im sure we will get caught up in the height and weight.

Was disappointed in Tulu. Not much impact on the game. Probably hurt him not having Rogers to throw it but still.

We do need to put the full court press on Pegues and Jackson. If they dont want to then they dont want to but it shouldnt be bc we didnt try. Those 2 and Rogers were probably the MVPs of the state and def the MVPs of that game in 2019

After seeing that Isabella kid from Umass, size don't mean shit if no one can cover you coming out of your break.
12-15-2019, 06:33 AM
Cooterpoot

Pegues is a DT that doesn’t play DT. He and Jackson have zero interest in State.
12-15-2019, 12:33 PM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Rogers wasnt 100 percent before he got hurt on the second series. I told yall he would be the best passer on campus when he got there. He is a cerebral assassin. Big time competitor and great intangibles. Loves the game. Wont have to worry about him skipping class, missing meetings or being late.

Jackson is the most dominant player I have seen in a long time. He played when he wanted to play at GC. But when he wants too he is one of the best players in the country. He can do it all. Penetrate, two gap, rush the passer shock shed the whole 9.

Dean and Rogers are going to be roommates. Dont be surprised when these two are carrying us to a bowl in the future. Dean is the real deal and is a stand up kid. Very similar to Rogers.

Jevon Banks had a great week and a great game. He is going to be a DL for us and be a damn good one. Grantham would love to have this kid. Long arms and physical. Plays with a chip on his shoulder. Has been that way all year. He was giving Chris Brooks hell from August till today bc he disrespected him and Olive Branch.

Walley is going to be ok. His little brother is the dawg. Trust me. He is a steal have to hang onto him. Forbes will grow into a draft pick if he will put in the work. Excellent frame. They hardly ever tried him. Reminds me a lot of Dantzler. Needs to become more physical and tackle better but some guys just arent made like that.

For all the love Jackson gets, Cooley is damn good himself. He is extremely underrated. He has longer arms than Jackson. Once he shocks you you are in trouble. Gonna be a good one on the interior.

Says a lot that the best WR in the game arguably was Ashton Nickelberry. He is a dawg, we probably wont give him a shot but he is a lot like Rufus except faster. Legit 4.3 speed. One of the fastest kids in the state. Has gotten better every single year. Him and Rogers would be deadly together but Im sure we will get caught up in the height and weight.

Was disappointed in Tulu. Not much impact on the game. Probably hurt him not having Rogers to throw it but still.

We do need to put the full court press on Pegues and Jackson. If they dont want to then they dont want to but it shouldnt be bc we didnt try. Those 2 and Rogers were probably the MVPs of the state and def the MVPs of that game in 2019

Jackson Is not a nor will have the careers that chris jones or Jeffery simmons had ...
12-15-2019, 01:31 PM
ShotgunDawg

Is it me or does Javon Banks remind anyone else of Chauncey Rivers?

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12-15-2019, 02:12 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by sack07

Shotgun, why do you think being from Mississippi should give us a leg up on any kid? The majority of high school kids do not have any allegiances to the in state schools. They?re not like you or I who grow up fans of schools. If they cheer for anyone, it is most likely a blue blood program.

And on Jackson specifically, he?s from George County. And while yes, Starkville and Lucedale and bound by the same border that means nothing to most kids.

This is just a really bad take. We get a ton of highly rated kids from MS that have other SEC offers that we absolutely would have no shot at if they didn't have in-state loyalty. If it wasn't for our ability to get a lot of the higher rated kids from MS we would be in a world of hurt playing in the SEC. And MSU has had multiple players from George County, including one of our best ever in Eric Moulds.
12-15-2019, 02:17 PM
RougeDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Losing to G5 teams isn't the issue. We also aren't beating the better SEC teams. Part of it is because the guys that could help us do that are playing at Memphis.

Yes. Most of the G5 schools in our area have better WR than we do. I do not understand how that happens. We do well enough in other areas to compete in the SEC, but are always bottom when it comes to receivers.
12-15-2019, 02:20 PM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Yes. Most of the G5 schools in our area have better WR than we do. I do not understand how that happens. We do well enough in other areas to compete in the SEC, but are always bottom when it comes to receivers.

Years of Mullen's runs and short passes will ruin the interest of big time WR's.
12-15-2019, 02:37 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Yes. Most of the G5 schools in our area have better WR than we do. I do not understand how that happens. We do well enough in other areas to compete in the SEC, but are always bottom when it comes to receivers.

Its a combination of that plus during the same time frame OM was throwing it all over the yard and essentially had no running game. Its been about as difficult up until the last year or two with Luke for OM to sign a productive RB as it has been for us to sign a top rated WR.
12-15-2019, 05:13 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Its a combination of that plus during the same time frame OM was throwing it all over the yard and essentially had no running game. Its been about as difficult up until the last year or two with Luke for OM to sign a productive RB as it has been for us to sign a top rated WR.

We're also missing on the diamond in the rough guys too though.
12-15-2019, 05:18 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

Years of Mullen's runs and short passes will ruin the interest of big time WR's.

That's not it. WR's are kids that as a group don't want to hear about hard work and a lunch pail mentality. They want that ass kissed and glam. Rock star treatment. Mullen and crew didn't do ass-kissing and glam. Plus, Joe's 1st WR coach hated recruiting- and went back to the NFL
12-15-2019, 05:19 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We're also missing on the diamond in the rough guys too though.

In Mullen's entire tenure though, at least to my memory, the only diamond in the rough type WR that Mullen signed that was a big impact player was Derunnya Wilson. Guys like Bumphis and Ross were 4 star recruits.
12-15-2019, 05:21 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

In Mullen's entire tenure though, at least to my memory, the only diamond in the rough type WR that Mullen signed that was a big impact player was Derunnya Wilson. Guys like Bumphis and Ross were 4 star recruits.

Fred Brown
12-15-2019, 05:28 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Fred Brown

Meh, Fred Brown showed a bit of promise, but as soon as he did was summarily dismissed from school.
12-15-2019, 05:44 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Meh, Fred Brown showed a bit of promise, but as soon as he did was summarily dismissed from school.

Fred Brown's performance in 2015 as our #3 would have made him our leading WR this season.
He has also made some it in the NFL on a couple of rosters
12-15-2019, 07:18 PM
sack07

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

This is just a really bad take. We get a ton of highly rated kids from MS that have other SEC offers that we absolutely would have no shot at if they didn't have in-state loyalty. If it wasn't for our ability to get a lot of the higher rated kids from MS we would be in a world of hurt playing in the SEC. And MSU has had multiple players from George County, including one of our best ever in Eric Moulds.

You know that they came to State because they were from Mississippi?

Also, my post was meant generally. Obviously there are some kids who grow up fans or take pride in Mississippi. Both universities try to promote staying in state. My point was that our coaches still have to do their part in the recruitment process to convince a kid that State is the best place to continue their career. A lot of times proximity plays a role in that. Proximity and in state can get blurred sometimes. I just don?t think it?s that crazy that a kid from MS has no interest in an in state school. Nor is that an indictment on a coaching staff.
12-15-2019, 08:04 PM
chef dixon

Mullen also threw the ball all over the field at UF this year. I don't think it was all his scheme that held us back from getting legit wideouts.
12-15-2019, 08:30 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

Mullen also threw the ball all over the field at UF this year. I don't think it was all his scheme that held us back from getting legit wideouts.

Mullen is a good coach because he adjusts to his talent. His starting QB was somewhat mobile and he ran him a little. Once he got hurt and Trask became the QB- they went West Coast offense with no QB runs. His recruiting acumen doesn't do well with WR's tho. Maybe that will change some at Fla

I haven't seen JoVester adjust very much yet. That's the problem. If it takes a juco WR half a season to figure out the offense- your offense is the problem- not the WR. A running attack that is just zone or a read the DE to pitch or QB cut the ball up is not much imagination. Ugh
12-16-2019, 07:55 AM
timotheus

Gotta cut him some slack though, maybe he's just a slow guru when it comes to assessing talent and incorporating it into his scheme? No better than we could throw this year, Kylin should have broken Boobie's rushing record 3 games ago or Nick should have had about 400 more yards for himself.

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